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DanJ
How do you make a street doc what skills etc do you choose could anyone give me an example of a street doc that they could quickly whip up to give me an example.

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Ol' Scratch
Here's one of my favorite Street Docs to use as a contact.

MS. STITCH
Plastic Surgeon turned Street Doc, Ork Female

Notable Skills: Biotech 6 (Plastic Surgery cool.gif, Chemistry 3, Edged Weapons 3 (Scapels 6), Electronics 3 (Cybertechnology 6), Electronics B/R 2 (Cybertechnology 4), Law 1 (Medical Malpractice 3), Medicine 6, Pathology 4, Psychology 3, Shotguns 2 (Sawed-Off Remington 3).

Notable Implants: Auto-Injector, Chipjack, Datajack, Image Link, Obvious Cyberforearm (Biomonitor, Cellphone, DNI, Chemical Analyzer & Gas Spectrometer, Quickness +3, Storage Memory [100 Mp]).

Edges & Flaws: Aptitude (Biotech [Plastic Surgery]), Bad Reputation 1, Connected 3 (medical supplies), Day Job 1 (volunteer work at a clinic in the Ork Underground), Dark Secret (dealing with how she lost her arm).

Alexis Covington wasn't always your typical street doc. About ten years ago, she was the defacto plastic surgeon in Hollywood. If it wasn't for the fact that she just happened to goblinize late in life, right in the middle of some critical surgery on the governers wife, chances are she'd still be earning the big bucks in the Sunshine State. But as it turned out, maiming a high profile face in a country full of prejudiced bastards tends to be frowned upon. She had little choice beyond moving away and opening a clinic somewhere else.

These days, Alexis — known better as Ms. Stitch on the streets — runs a shadow clinic in a secret basement underneath the house on her husband's (a troll named Jonathon) farm in Snohomish. There she offers her rather remarkable services to shadowy clients willing to pay her modest fees. She offers a substantial discount for fellow orks and trolls, as she now understands the prejudices they face and wishes to do all she can to help her fellows out.

In addition to her surgical talents, Ms. Stitch has developed numerous contacts in the local underworld dealing with medicine, organlegging, and the like. What she doesn't keep in storage herself (and she has a very significant stockpile of medical equipment and drugs), she can get in record time if the price is right. She has also hinted that she knows where the delta clinic in Istanbul is and who you need to get in touch with to gain access to it, but so far that's all it is — a hint.
DanJ
i'm looking for playable character street docs not contacts.

i'm looking to play a charismatic female street doc (very charismatic)

could someone give an example to a newb
Munchkinslayer
okay, take the above and make her an elf with 8 charisma. simple.
Large Mike

Or, and here's an idea, make your own damn character. We do not exist to crunch your freaking numbers for you. The only thing really required for a street-doc character is a half-decent biotech skill.
Diesel
No offense dude(tte?) but all your requests have been for (archetype) with massive charisma. What gives?
Munchkinslayer
Find your Happy Place, Large Mike. Ooohhhmmmmmm. Oohhmmmmmmm.
DanJ
No1 Screw you people who think i'm just making you do number crunching.
The high charisma thing is a habit.
No2 I'm new and i dont know what skills are sutible for a street doc.
No3 I only wanted an example.
So bloody get over yourself
Sphynx
The best Street Doc possible is right here. Unfortunately, he's made for our games where those Availability 10 skillsofts are allowed. Removing those softs, you'd still have all the skills you'd need and cash to spare (for other softs). He's been built as an IntrusionSpecialist/Face who ended up being more skilled as a Doc than most Docs, so the character has plenty of potential, but at the same time is the best StreetDoc possible.

He's NOT a female/elf type, but a dwarf with a very high charisma, your choice of Gender is optional, but the character whould have very very weak stats as an Elf or Human (since you're using the priority system). Not as bad if you use the BP system.
Ferratus
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Whoa folks...lets bring this back around to center, and take your daily dose of Chill™ pills.

OK, some people arent number crunchers or enjoy just making characters for S&G's, but some of us are. *including self*

However...to make a Doc or Medic character, remember that Biotech is your best friend. Take a specialization with it and Cyber B/R and Electronics and B/R. Datajacks and skillsofts work great as well.

As far as quick characters go, NSRCG is a great prg for throwing something together...little or no prep involved. Another good source for making a quick char is Ardenstone Chargen

If all else fails, the old contacts insert in the SR2 GM Screen has all kinds of stuff.

CirclMastr
Why take a placebo like Chill™ (I hear they put coke in those eek.gif ) and calm your nerves and warm your heart with NERPS™! biggrin.gif

And don't forget that Encephalon to give your street doc a Task Pool of 2 for Biotech tests. Encephalons: Not Just For Deckers (Really!)
Munchkinslayer
QUOTE (DanJ)
No1 Screw you people who think i'm just making you do number crunching.
So bloody get over yourself

Yo, DanJ, back off. I understand where you're coming from -- really, I'm new to this board too. I've been out of the SR loop for awhile and have asked some stupid questions before. I've probably managed to piss some people off too. But that sort of retaliation quickly degenerates a thread from (potentially) helpful to a flame war.

Any how, biotech is a must for an active skill. A heap of knowledge skills are appropriate, such as: Cybertechnology, Biotechnology, Surgery, Nanotechnology (cyber-implant), a couple of points in Magic Background (Awakened surgery) etc. Give it a little thought and I think you will find that the skills will just "come" to you. Check out Man & Machine and see how cyber works and how it is implanted (that's where I got the idea for a nanotech skill-- pre M&M I wouldn't have thought of that)

Also here's an idea, make your doc a ghoul!

Street Sam: What happens to my meat arm when I get it replaced with chrome?
Doc: (smacks lips) It will be... uhmm... disposed of properly.
Lilt
QUOTE (Munchkinslayer)
Also here's an idea, make your doc a ghoul!

Street Sam:  What happens to my meat arm when I get it replaced with chrome?
Doc:  (smacks lips) It will be... uhmm... disposed of properly.

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I like!
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Ol' Scratch
I had a very entertaining Ghoul doctor some time ago (who was quite a ghoul-centric racist, too). He was a blast to play. Got into some interesting debates in an IC ghoul discussion thread. smile.gif
moosegod
But you lose INT with that.

Just give him Dark Secret (Tamanous Supplier)

Everyone Wins!

Enhanced Articulation works well and makes sense for this sort of a character. For flavor maybe muscle toner.

And give him Pistols-

"Scalpel"

"What's the Ruger Super Warhawk doing on the surgical table?"

"In case it don't work out! wobble.gif "
tisoz
I think the ghoul thing is kind of a joke, but who would knowingly go to a ghoul street doc? They would need to be very desperate, very trusting, or very foolish. Think of the chances for infection.

As a comparison, how many people remember the news stories about dentists that had their practice dry up when they contracted aids? How many tasks now require gloves that used to be performed by washed hands prior to aids?
Munchkinslayer
Yes it was a joke. But ya gotta admit it'd be kinda cool, eh?
Glyph
As long as we're tossing out examples, I might as well post the adept of the magical way medic. This is very similar to the one I posted in Sphynx's thread, but modified to a normal Priority character (123 points in the point build system). Now, this is a very versatile character, but he isn't quite a street doc, more of a very good emergency medic - he can patch people up very well, but he can't fix or program cyberware (although he can do the transimplant surgery). However, he is also a great face type, and he has magical healing abilities to complement his mundane ones. Here he is:

Here is the breakdown:
PRIORITIES
Magic: A (Adept of the Magical Way)
Attributes: B
Skills: C
Race: D (Dwarf)
Resources: E (5,000 - 10% = 4,500)

Edges and Flaws: Balanced (+7 and -7)

Dwarven Adept of the Magical Way - Shamanic/Leopard Totem
Attributes
Body: 5
Quickness: 4[5]
Strength: 3
Charisma: 6
Intelligence: 7
Willpower: 7
Essence: 6
Magic: 6[4]
Reaction: 6[8]
Initiative: 8 + 2d6
Combat Pool: 9
Spell Pool: 6

Active Skills -
Biotech/First Aid: 5/7
Conjuring: 6
Etiquette: 6
Negotiation: 6
Sorcery: 6
Stealth: 4

Knowledge Skills -
(Languages)
English: 6 R/W: 3
Japanese: 6 R/W: 3
(Other)
Chemistry: 6
Magical Background: 6
Medicine: 6
(Meta)Human Biology: 6
Seattle Black Market/Medical: 5/7
Triage Procedures: 3

Adept Abilities -
Magical Ability: 4 with Chanting Geas
Improved Attribute/Quickness
Improved Senses -
Improved Scent
Microscopic Vision
Increased Reflexes: 1

Spells -
Stunbolt: 6*
Diagnose: 6*
Heal: 6*
Sterilize: 6*
* = Exclusive for -2 Drain

Totem modifiers -
+2 for Combat and Health spells
+2 for all Nature Spirits at Night
-1 to resist Illusion spells

Edges -
Aptitude: Biotech
Bonus Attribute Point: Intelligence
Friendly Face

Flaws -
Allergy: Silver, Moderate
Bio-Rejection
Impulsive

Contacts -
Fixer (Level 1)
Medical Supplier (Level 1)

Lifestyle: 1 Low (1 Month Prepaid).
Cred: 3d6 x 100 Nuyen.

Gear carried/worn:
Armor/Clothing: Ordinary Clothing (x 7), Secure Ultra-Vest.
Other: Doctor's Satchel (of 100 Nuyen cost), Savior Advanced Medkit, Spare Medkit Supplies (x1), 3 Antidote (6) Slap Patches.
Ol' Scratch
It wasn't a joke when I played one, and it's very easy to hide your ghoul nature with the right implants (Scent Glands, Clean Metabolism, Cybereyes, etc.). Most people just thought he was an albino or whatnot.

And yes, while he did lose a point of Intelligence (which is hardly someone of an inferior intellect), it still allowed him to have an Intelligence of 5. Magic was of no concern, though the Sensitive System was a bit of a bother.

Couple that with College Education, Biotech 6 (7 build points), Medicine 6 (7 Knowledge Skill points), Pathology 6 (same), and a few other select skills and, again, he was hardly a poor doctor.

Despite popular belief, Ghouls are not mindless flesh-eating zombies. Especially brilliant and egotistical Ghoul who believe that the HMHVV virus is a superior form of reproduction and life.
DanJ
Ghoul?

i'm a little confused sorry
Morphling The Pretender
It's from the Shadowrun Companion. Flesh eating virus infected metahumans.

But don't worry your pretty little head about them, if your GM doesn't own that book.
DanJ
i dont own that book and i dont have a gm yet.

i havent played shadowrun yet
Buzzed
Every Street Doc needs a good Medical Shop! (Clinincs) A Basic Medical Shop will be able to handle standard cyberware. If you want to handle Alpha, you need an Alpha grade shop (Same cost rules apply, double the price.) If you want to go legit, you will need a permit. (Permits are 15% teh cost of the shop.) That is if you have access to a SIN.

Install a medical shop into a vehicle. Now you have an ambulance!

I seriously reccomend you get Man & Machine. That book has a nifty surgery and implanting section.
moosegod
QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein)
.Despite popular belief, Ghouls are not mindless flesh-eating zombies. Especially brilliant and egotistical Ghoul who believe that the HMHVV virus is a superior form of reproduction and life.

Most of them are.
tisoz
QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein)
It wasn't a joke when I played one, and it's very easy to hide your ghoul nature with the right implants (Scent Glands, Clean Metabolism, Cybereyes, etc.). Most people just thought he was an albino or whatnot.

Was this prior to 3rd edition with the assensing rules? It doesn't seem like it would be too long before his condition was discovered. Intelligence 6 character, TN4, perhaps has aura reading, centering, or perceptive edge. I regularly get 5+ successes with the I6 and only 1 of the above.

QUOTE
Magic was of no concern


In creating the character?

QUOTE
the HMHVV virus is a superior form of reproduction and life.


It's not really reproduction but perpetuation of the species. If it's such a superior life form, why aren't players begging to play ghouls? Now vampires, I've seen many players desire to play.
Ol' Scratch
QUOTE (tisoz)
Was this prior to 3rd edition with the assensing rules? It doesn't seem like it would be too long before his condition was discovered. Intelligence 6 character, TN4, perhaps has aura reading, centering, or perceptive edge. I regularly get 5+ successes with the I6 and only 1 of the above.

<just rolls his eyes> Hence the word "most." You do know what "most" means, right? It means "most." As in "not everyone, but the majority of people." As in "some people would be able to determine who and what he was." Got it now? Good.

And being dual-natured, he knew when others were perceiving him and could deal with those situations on a case-by-case basis.

QUOTE
In creating the character?


No, in my wife painting her toenails red. ohplease.gif Of course in creating the character. What the bloody hell did you think I was referring to?

QUOTE
It's not really reproduction but perpetuation of the species.  If it's such a superior life form, why aren't players begging to play ghouls?  Now vampires, I've seen many players desire to play.


Superior in that they don't have to wait 9 months to reproduce. Superior in that they can reproduce with just about any sentient being of a suitable nature they encounter. Superior in that they don't need two partners to create a new specimen. Superior in that their senses are heightened. Superior in that they are immune to VITAS.

Sure, they have some flaws, too... but he was a racist/supremist bastard. smile.gif
tisoz
QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein @ Nov 17 2003, 01:55 AM)
<just rolls his eyes> Hence the word "most."  You do know what "most" means, right?  It means "most."  As in "not everyone, but the majority of people."  As in "some people would be able to determine who and what he was."  Got it now?  Good.

Also as in most thought he was albino and the rest just thought him freakish, Dr. Condescending.

You do realize when you roll your eyes IRL people want to slap you up side the head? Do you think it's different because it's written. Of course you do, you know it's worse because it's a conscious act on your part to inflame.

If it only takes a simple action, roughly 1.5 seconds to assense, wouldn't it be prudent for the assenser to do the assensing while the assensee was not paying attention? Oh, I forgot, you never perform the biotech skill without checking every other second to see if you are being assensed. I hope the GM was giving you someTN mods to both the biotech roll and the perception test for not paying full attention to either. So you'd start losing patients through botch biotech rolls or by having your flaw discovered.

Oh, but hold on:
QUOTE
And being dual-natured, he knew when others were perceiving him and could deal with those situations on a case-by-case basis.

<big eye roll> Riiight. Not a problem, you just dealt with it. Does someone have a shovel?

QUOTE
No, in my wife painting her toenails red. ohplease.gif  Of course in creating the character.  What the bloody hell did you think I was referring to?

Well, you start your post by describing how you masked yourself from mundanes and completely overlooking magic, then list some skills, then state magic wasn't a concern. Maybe it was a low magic campaign? Maybe you were sleeping with the GM so that you would never encounter a magician at your clinic? The only way it makes sense is if you aren't a mage, but saying it wasn't a concern during chargen, when you were concerned about masking for mundanes, is a lie. You had to be concerned about magic detection when creating the character, you just couldn't do much about it in game. Yep, sleeping with the GM looks more and more likely. I hope your wife was the GM.smile.gif Hey, then you paint her toenails as long as she let your ghoul go undiscovered. It all makes perfect sense.

And please, before you get your panties in a bind, understand I don't care how you decide to play. Have fun. IMO though, a person as smart as yourself seemed to downplay the major flaw of the character.
Sphynx
If I may intercede here a bit....

Rolling eyes may indeed be infamatory, but no more so than quoting, in parts, half of a person's post with a negative comment after each line. Tisoz, you started the rudeness, don't be so shocked that it bounces back, ESPECIALLY from the Doc... nyahnyah.gif

Where as you are correct in that he wouldn't notice everytime he was assensed, he's quite right in his original post that 'most' people would never know of his condition. Even those assensing who could easily assume he was an Adept or something.

It was also quite clear in his first post that Magic, being of no concern, was a comment to his taking cyber/bioware and stating that the only negative is that he'd have to double essence loss (not a big deal if Magic isn't concerned). Adding a bunch of factors that prove Magic IS a concern, but out of context doesn't make him incorrect.

Sphynx
tisoz
It's odd the last 3 posts I tried to make to this topic bounced me off line and I had to rewrite them. Maybe God is trying to tell me something.

Is it now improper etiquette to reply to specific contentions in a way that helps minimize misunderstanding? OK, the wife/GM was a bit over the top, but so was bringing his wife into it. I thought the rudeness started a bit earlier. I hate responding to anything Doctor Funkenstein posts because IMO he sees everything as a personal attack. Heck, I agree with much of what he spouts. [edit] And it was kind of boring while he was away. [/edit]

That is why I wasn't sure about the magic, just as I wasn't sure they were joking about a ghoul character in this proffession. Just about every time a character has received biotech a mage has been standing in line to try to finalize the healing. That's why this a ghoul street doc seems absurd to me, they are going to run into more magical types than your average ghoul.

Off topic, Sphynx, I like your calculator. One comment though. In the 'soft calculator when you get the DIMAP option, it is a bit misleading in saying the minimum skillwires needed instead of the minimum pulse needed. I caught it about the time I was creating a skillwire rating 1 character that was planning on using rating 6 skillsofts with DIMAP 5.
Shanshu Freeman
QUOTE (tisoz @ Nov 17 2003, 09:04 AM)
Does someone have a shovel?



No, but he's got teeth and a stomach.

Seriously, dude, grow a thicker skin.
Umm. All my best though, to each of you. biggrin.gif
Zazen
QUOTE (tisoz)
If it only takes a simple action, roughly 1.5 seconds to assense, wouldn't it be prudent for the assenser to do the assensing while the assensee was not paying attention?

Often much more quickly than 1.5 seconds. Most assensers will have the ability to use sorcery, and everyone who can use sorcery in DF's game has an Increase Reflexes +3 spell active at all times.
Munchkinslayer
I just wanna thank you girls for your bitch-slap posts. I had a crappy day at work and that gave me a giggle. After I had just told DanJ that childish retaliation could degenerate a thread into a flame war, I see you two slappin' away at each other. Granted, not a war exactly, but it made me laugh. Thanx.
Shanshu Freeman
Would it be useful/practical for a mage street doc/medic to have the spell for tailoring or costuming, or whatever it was? He or she could flip someone on their back, cast the spell and cause their shirt to separate along the middle, and start working on them... or something.
Ol' Scratch
It would be an interesting use of the spell to say the very least. Fashion, if memory serves, allows you to alter the style and cut of a garment so I don't see why not.

The only problem is that the Force of the spell would have to equal or beat the Armor rating (if any) of the clothing. I think. I can't quite remember the errata'd rule for it.
Shanshu Freeman
QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein)
It would be an interesting use of the spell to say the very least. Fashion, if memory serves, allows you to alter the style and cut of a garment so I don't see why not.

The only problem is that the Force of the spell would have to equal or beat the Armor rating (if any) of the clothing. I think. I can't quite remember the errata'd rule for it.

would it be easier than try to cut the armor off?

in real life, I think a doc would try that. Often when a patient is hurt ( especially with spinal related injuries ) a doc would hesitate to move them enough to wriggle them out of clothes, or armor.
moosegod
With the spell, you aren't moving them at all. If they were lying on thier back, you could still "cut" along the spine.

I give that idea a thumbs up.
Zazen
Yeah, that's innovative. I like it. smile.gif

In fact, I can see a magical healer having a spell which only cuts clothing for this purpose, but can cut a high armor rating with little or no dependance on force.
Kagetenshi
Clothingbolt/Clothingball.

~J
CirclMastr
Something tells me Clothingball would see more use in nightclubs than ORs.
Kagetenshi
So true.

~J
Ol' Scratch
I think a more practical and plausible custom spell would be a Reduce Armor Rating (for lack of a more colorful name at this hour) spell. It could reduce the effective Armor Rating of armor by a number of points equal to the successes on the test (maybe with a limit of Force or two times Force), thus making it easy to cut open with conventional scissors/knives or a low force Fashion spell.

The nice thing about it is that while it would be a "OR" type spell by design, it could see some use in a fight as well. That's always something a shadowrunner-type should consider; I mean, even if you are playing a doctor, you're obvious of less-than-respectable morales if you're applying your skills on an actual shadowrun (as opposed to just patching up shadowrunners)... so...
Zazen
Wreck Armor already exists. I was thinking of something for a medical NPC that could make him kind of unique and memorable, but wouldn't require him to spend much time/karma to learn.

But yeah, if you're a PC and want more functionality, go with Wreck Armor and define it as shredding/disintegrating that won't hurt the wearer.
Siege
QUOTE (CirclMastr)
Something tells me Clothingball would see more use in nightclubs than ORs.

Are you kidding? Wait until the "Mass Intoxication" spell gets written up...

-Siege
CirclMastr
QUOTE (Siege)
Are you kidding? Wait until the "Mass Intoxication" spell gets written up...

-Siege

Time to work on my Tequila Shaman!
Buzzed
QUOTE (Siege @ Nov 19 2003, 07:56 AM)
QUOTE (CirclMastr @ Nov 19 2003, 05:47 AM)
Something tells me Clothingball would see more use in nightclubs than ORs.

Are you kidding? Wait until the "Mass Intoxication" spell gets written up...

-Siege

Good for combat, strip them all of their armor and get them drunk. Now if you could get a spell to turn guns into party popers, you would be all set.
Ol' Scratch
QUOTE (Zazen)
Wreck Armor already exists. I was thinking of something for a medical NPC that could make him kind of unique and memorable, but wouldn't require him to spend much time/karma to learn.

But yeah, if you're a PC and want more functionality, go with Wreck Armor and define it as shredding/disintegrating that won't hurt the wearer.

No, I wasn't talking about a spell like Wreck Armor. I was thinking of a (lower Drain and maybe even lower TN) spell that only temporarily weakens armor for as long as you sustain the spell.
RangerJoe
Something like "turn armor to goo".... but here we go again....
moosegod
You could make it a "willing subjects only"

If I didn't have work to do, I would build this skill.

But I do.
Shanshu Freeman
QUOTE (moosegod)
You could make it a "willing subjects only"

If I didn't have work to do, I would build this skill.

But I do.

someone unconcious can't give or deny consent. at least that's what the laws around here say. biggrin.gif hahaha rotfl.gif
Saintgrimm
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