there were pictures of that on teh intartwebs once, birdmans weaponsystems or something like that . .
including a mini-nuke-projectile for those *g*

Why Assault Cannons?

WHY NOT?

Of course, I found the Ultimate Assault Cannon!

I just took a look and didn't see anything about that.

I also don't get why they constantly blurb about the tremendous recoil, but all the SS assault cannons will never ever suffer from a point of recoil. *shrug*

in SR3, you took 9l damage if you were not fit to fire the weapon and had to see if you were knocked down by the recoil . . furthermore, heavy weapons recoil, UNCOMPENSATED heavy weapons recoil is doubled . .

Totally. Where is that this go around?

I mean, even if I turn it into a BF weapon, it's a simple matter to completely dismiss recoil.

For heavy weapons recoil, I use this nice optional rule:

Yay!

I guess that really only confounds the issue at hand (that is, "why assault cannons?") even further. Aside from style (which will always prevail), doesn't that just make assault cannons an even poorer choice, mechanically?

Ha yes, the thread issue...
Well, the problem is not much that the AC are underpowered, but the Barret is way too powerful when applied special ammo.
(emphasis mine)

So, I houseruled that, like in the 2nd/3rd edition (cf Field of Fire and Cannon Companion), the Barret 121 is using special armor-piercing ammunitions with the same availability as the gun itself. And so you can't use other special ammo.

Now how dose one get there grubby hand on those in 2070 that beats The Fragger for pure coolness.

Don't forget that nukes no longer work as intended in the sixth world...

(and that's a nuclear grenade launcher as in Starship Troopers, not a cannon)

Its a cannon the fires a nuclear rifle grenade. but some nukes worked and still how would your oponets know its would or would not work

Well, we could argue on the definition of a cannon, but who cares?
Now, that's a cannon. She even has a name.

And who cares what your opponents thinks when you have already blasted them?

The trick would not be getting one, it would be getting one that works.

It is my understanding that the Awakening played all kinds of mischief with all fission-based nuclear technology. Essentially, the Manhattan Project had to be started over.

I think I remember reading that most AAAs have at least a few nukes, and most of the 2008 nuclear club probably has nukes again, but since there is no cold war driving production, there are probably FAR fewer nukes than today.

Far fewer means much less chance of one "falling off a truck".

Yep that's one big cannon but my troll cant lug that when needed. still part of me wants an underbarrel assulet rife on my AC. The look on people faces when you let that rip.

When you are talking about weapons that large, it isn't an underbarrel weapon.

It's a co-axial mount.

biggest drawback of the davy crocket?
bigger blast radius than shooting range . .
so you shoot it 100m and it goes boom and has a blast of 150 to 200m or something like that, if i remember correctly . .

Yeah but you don't mount a small caliber weapon like an assault rifle on a cannon.
You go with a machine gun.

Now, THAT would be a weapon for my old troll Panzer.

It was indeed, but now we have drones...
Here comes Jack, the single-serving mushroom maker.

I don't think my Gm would let me pack a HMG under it but and Ares alpha/MP laser/flamethrower they'll allow. I'm playing in two many full on RP games atm so I need to let my Power gaming wild side for a bit.

The blast was less than that. The Fallout, however...

You had to shoot it with the wind at your back, and hope it didn't shift.

Heres how bad it was. sounds safe to me.

Ah, back in the days of, "Radiation is your Friend!"

And now we have "Aztechnology is your Friend!"

History repeats itself...

Well, there is still quite the margin:

Just don't shoot it with the wind coming your way...

I am sure the Davy Crockett gunners would be in NBC gear, and have a decontamination unit waiting a mile back. That makes the fallout risk negligible.

That does still leave the blast and radiation pulse. Dirt is your friend here.

You would have a nice deep hole dug beside your launcher. You fire your launcher as close to max range (2000m or 4000m) as possible. Dive in the hole after you fire it, and wait for the shockwave to pass. Jump in your jeep (which may well have it's own hole) and head back to the "spa" to get the nasty stuff scrubbed off your suit.

Doctors monitor you for a few days just to make sure.

You probably get a Silver Star just for being involved.

Not when they started using these, you didn't.

This was in the '50s! They fired one off, and then had soldiers march into it, just to study what happened.

Ooh, that would suck.

I hope they at least had a campfire to harden the tip of their pointed sticks.

"Affix... Bayonets!"

No, wait, that's the British Commonwealth Command.

What's the one for the US? Fix Bayonets?

Probably.

I bet there are US infantry who don't even know they can put their bayonet on their rifle. If they are even issued bayonets any more. I didn't when I was in country, but I was a REMF, not a shooter.

Superior.
"Gentlemen, ready axes!"

The plan was to use it to stop Chinese style human wave assaults. You parked your jeep on the reverse slope of a hill and fired it over the hill at the bad guys. Then drove like mad away.

In a formal drill the command would be fix ... bayonets. Otherwise just one phrase.

Didn't they still fix bayonets during the Vietnam War?

they still fix them today, if they get broken somehow . .

Yeah. Too bad plastic and aluminum doesn't lend itself well for a spear base.

However, I've heard that guys in "The Sandbox" have gotten a supply of the "Vietnam Tomahawks" (Actually a US Design for use in Vietnam, IIRC) using modern materials! And that a lot of them are swearing by them. Can be used as an entrenching tool with less weight and better combat application.

Now, here's the question, Bayonet Mount on a Pather Assault Cannon... Would that be a Claymore Sword from Arsenal?

The Doomcannon vibroblade down the top mount with a LMG under. with the AC melee hardened with an melee grip. The trolls best friend.

My goodness. A rifle that shoots um....women's pleasure devices. That's just kinky.

A rifle that shoots low-velocity high explosive pleasure devices.
That's even kinkier.

Why looky here. Looks like I've been carting around one of those rifles with me already!

badump bump

Finaly all those dates will never complain about your aim again,

The ultimate cyberpunk rpg assault cannon is hands down the 75mm manpack howitzer from Underground.

-Jackmc

The boost needs some real "guns" to pack that mansprayer!

I just searched through Arsenal, and couldnt find the rules for making a SA gun into FA. Can someone page reference me?

Firing Selection Change weapon modification page 151

OMG no wonder I didnt upgrade my Barrett to FA. It costs an extra 11000 nuyen!

Which, strangely enough, is the case for most full-auto weapons lighter than a LMG. It saves on weight and weapon size to use a lighter SA-style receiver.

Bah, just sell out a few teammates for thier cybernetics and you'll have the cash in no time!

And this is complete horse-hockey. IF you don't mind a full magazine at a time of FA only you can just bind the sear with a piece of wire. Otherwise you can often pick up the mil-spec firing mechanism, for civilian versions of military rifles, off the black market for about 1/2 the weapon's price.

As for a FA Barrett...that's not just unsmart, it's anti-smart. If smart and that FA Barrett were to ever touch, it would cause a massive blinding explosion that would annihilate all matter in a decent-sized area in a flash of hard radiation. Such an event would, inevitably, involve the death of many fluffy and adorable kittens.

THINK OF THE KITTENZ!

A Harley is 12k. Wired 1 costs 11k. A single Activesoft 3 is 9k.
Its just a matter of priorities.

-paws

9000Â¥ Barrett Model 121 Sniper Rifle (Recoil Compensation 6, 9p -4 ap) 10,590Â¥

* Integral: Barrel Mounted Silencer, Smartgun system(Internal), Folding Bipod
* Chameleon Coating 1000Â¥
* Skinlink 50Â¥
* 20 Rounds of Ex-Ex 200Â¥ (+1 dv -1 ap)
* 40 Capsule Rounds of Narcojet 300Â¥ (10 Power Toxin, Immediate, Stun)
* 30 Gel Rounds 90Â¥ (+2 dv and all damage is now s, and +2 AP, using I)

This is the gun as it stands!

Its only 1 piece of my gear, and I already spent 200,600 on bio/cyber!

Why do you need 6 recoil comp? At most you need 1.