He is refering to the Rigger's Control and Combat Pools.

Check the Official Errata. The Avail is now 11/11 days...

Know your errata...

I'd have to check, but I don't think the amount of COntrol or Combat Pool you use for Dodging or Damage Resistance is limited to the Body of the vehicle.

You know this would be a nice scenario if it weren't for the fact that Steel Lynxes function like vehicles for damage (all drones do). Hence that 12D from your Ruger with Ex Rounds becomes a 6S because vehicles always half power and lower damage level by 1. And guess what, that 6 isn't enough to puncture the Steel Lynx's Hardened Armor of 9, so it just richochets off harmlessly

To take down a Lynx you either need to use AV (and an initial base power higher then 8 ), or hit it with an attack with a power higher then 18. These things are mini-tanks.

DOH! My bad, i made a miscalculation.

About combat pool and control pool VS soaking damage.
Why shouldn't it be limited, it is for characters isn't it? Should be the same for vehicles.

That wouldn't work. You can light Compound on fire and it will ignote, but it won't explode.

Well, that's how it works in this world as well.

But by canon rules explosions do not detonate (plastic) explosives. So I was going with the "making sense" logic, not with "canon" logic.

No. Combat and pool usage is only limited for offensive uses. For dodging and soaking, you can use any number of dice. See p 44, SR3.

Heres why this otherwise good idea wouldnt work: object resistance.

page 182, SR3

All drones are at least as complicated and processed as a computer, which give them a base OR of 10. the steel lynx has a body of 2, raising that to 12, and an armor of 9, raising that by 9/2 = 4.5, round down to 4, so the final OR is 16. So... you would need a force 8 Levitate to affect the drone... or, for that matter, any spell except lightning bolt/ball would have to be force 8 ( L bolt/ball would have to be force 7, since there would be a -1 to the targets OR).

Actually people can get resistance checks. It's in the spell decription on P197, SR3.

So which is it?

Check out Lilt's post... he mentions a quote further down the same page that clarifies your question.


Lilt:

You think a drone is closer in complexity to a chunk of "advanced" plastic or a cell phone than to a computer?

Where are you getting this rule?
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True dat. Thanks!

After a shocking encounter between an underwater drone he was rigging and a small group of Storm Dolphins, the rigger in my campaign has developped a serious aversion to dolphins of any kind.

No, a rigger does NOT get both Control AND Combat pool for soaking AND he's subject to more stringent limitations. It goes on...

I'd like to re-emphasize the INSTEAD part. They're not saying you can add both for one attack - Instead means one or the other. This means if you blow 8 of your 12 Control pool on one attack, you can't take 4 from there and 4 from Combat Pool. You either drain your Combat pool or just use 4. Of course, in many cases the Rigger may be rolling against a TN of just 2, so...

There's also nothing about Dodging Tests on pg 133. They probably meant 113, which is where dodging tests are in fact discussed.


Other Fun Ways To Screw With The Steel Lynx.

1. It has tires. 'Nuff said.

2. Armor has no effect whatsoever on collisions. Ask your GM if you can make a drone(Which happens to look an awful lot like a bullet) with a launcher(Which happens to look an awful lot like an Ares Predator). Fire the 'drone' at the Steel Lynx. The 'drone' is going to get totaled, but the Steel Lynx will also be. If your GM isn't kosher with this, just run it over with your truck and say that it should count as a pedestrian(Pg. 148 SR3). Or design small speed-demon drones and control them yourself. Jump out of a drone just before impact.

3. There's an extremely peculiar passage in Rigger 3 regarding vehicles and electrical attacks. It's quite lengthy, so I'm not posting it all here, but it's the left column of pg 27. Anyone able to figure out how that is able to be correct with the Doberman having 6 armor and pg. 150 of SR3, right column? I'm inclined to just say that the example on pg. 27 is totally incorrect, but I'm not sure.

4. Keep an emergency clip of AV rounds handy. They're a relatively cheap investment for a lot of peace of mind.

5. The MIJI rules are great. Once you cut a drone off from its Rigger with your Jammer, it's absolutely helpless. Chances are good that it can throw 4 dice MAX at attack tests with no combat or control pool. In fact, it might not be capable of doing ANYTHING if he hasn't given it orders and has just been directly controlling it.

The Steel Lynx isn't anywhere close to how stupifying the Rigger rules can get. Out of boredom, I once designed a Drone with 30 armor and availability low enough for a starting character too IIRC.

Unlike Levitate, this spell is only used on inanimate objects, and the authors do not use the Object Resistance Table to determine the TN. So clearly certain types of magical affects can be used on inanimate objects without the OR table Target Number and Force requirements.

It appears to me that a physical pushing or lifting affect can be made with a Spell such that other real-world effects (gravity or someone pushing back) determines whether the Spell achieves its intended affect. And that works regardless of what the object is made of.

It seems to me that levitating a 0.1 Kg. computer circuit board should be no harder than levitating a 0.1 Kg. carved wooden statue.

Preach on brother, preach on.