QUOTE (Floyd @ May 15 2011, 01:58 PM)

I would hate to step on any toes here, or hurt feelings. And I don't means this as an attack, just as an observation.
K, cool. Also, you can just call me raven, or you can call me Al. But call me Dottie and you're dead.
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The OP (RM) has many times stated that he does not dislike the traits of the dev-grrrl, but wishes they would have used an already established character or someone whose style he is more comfortable with. This suggest to me that the OP's largest concern is that she is new, representing new ideas and posibly a new face to something he has spent very long getting to know. The authors have chosen to continue to use this character, in their own way, to possible express where the hobby has progressed to or hopes to where it is going.
We-ell, no. That's not exactly why I expressed an issue with /d/.
I'm all for change, and I'm all for moving things forward. I may have started reading Shadowrun back in the 2nd edition days, but I've finally gotten to
play Shadowrun with 4e. As such, I'm actually pretty new to things, I just like shout-outs. Usually, as a manner of the universe in which the Sixth World exists, there exists enough of this to satisfy me and keep me relatively tame.
As I've said multiple times within this thread,
I have absolutely no problem with the writers introducing new characters.. Nada. Bing. Zip.
What I do have a problem with is
when those very same writers choose to introduce a character that doesn't jive with the established world.. Why is this girl here? Who introduced her? Who invited her in? Jackpoint is supposed to be a closed community with multiple vets to get in - yet, a girl who had to have someone explain some of the Sixth World history to her - history that, IIRC, isn't even that unknown, is invited in? Uh...
It's jarring. And it's kind of annoying. That's why I suggested that if they were looking to introduce a new character in which to provide a window of entry for new players for, they could use someone already pre-established in previous material. Using GnuB would be nothing more than a fun shout-out to a character that personally, I dig.
Now, I've since gone on to read Attitude, where other writers have utilized /d/. And I found that, despite her familiar writing style (she's a fifteen year old girl) I actually really dug her perspective on things. And, shock and awe, I actually thought her contributions were some of the best in the book.
Imagine that.
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The OP also talks about the entries in the book to be substnadard to previous additions, suggesting a cut-paste would be a better idea. Not the best, but better. This again harkens back to what is familiar. The change may exist to add things to the past that the authors meant to be there or altering continuity to get over the past, our time, catching up to the present, Shadowrun time.
Eh, once again, kind of missing the point.
Sixth World Atlas has a good couple of things working against it. One is that it's a product with a very long development time. Originally it was meant to be part of the 20th Anniversary of Shadowrun and was supposed to be the American version of [b]Die .6 World; something I'm too willing to admit I have a crazy obsession with. That meant multiple cooks in the stew and all of the sundry things that can happen to that.
Secondly, it was hampered by a shift of management.
Thirdly, said management is currently a bunch of crooks and liars and are putting books out to say that they are putting books out, regardless of actual quality.
War! and
Attitude suffer this very same problem, to varying degrees.
I make no bones about how I feel about the current management of CGL. You can read my sig for further details.
This is not a problem of "everything new sucks! Everything previous was so much better!" This is an issue of, "your quality control sucks, and you need to get a handle on this shit because it's costing you money and fans!"
Again: While I started with Shadowrun in
2nd Edition, I didn't get to actually
play Shadowrun until
4th Edition. There is no starry-eye'd idealism going on here - okay, maybe just a little, I'll admit - just someone with half-a-decent hand at writing and a proficiency for world lore going, "seriously? This is your triumphant return from disaster?"
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These are mere suggestions, but the pattern seems to fit, especially with such polarized opinions and a huge page count on the post in total.
The grognard card? Seriously?
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Now where the sex-robit talk fits in, I cannot say.
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