QUOTE (snowRaven @ Mar 9 2012, 10:30 AM)
...except that Manabolt is a Mana spell and can't affect non-living things. It's resisted with Willpower, so if you rule that the mind is entirely separate from the body...does it have Willpower?
Doh! You're right. So manabolt would have no effect. But I'm ok with that - just like a "control actions" spell wouldn't really affect the comatose body either...
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 9 2012, 10:48 AM)
Heh. I dunno, I kinda like this. The astral form is mental, the body is physical, each gets one, no fuss.
phlapjack may be a mad genius!
Hehe - at least a better idea than the auto-hits one, right?
QUOTE (snowRaven @ Mar 9 2012, 11:03 AM)
So how would you treat physical damage inflicted on the astral form?
Rule away physical attacks on the astral entirely, have all damage affect the stun track regardless of type, or apply it to the body?
This would have the side-effect that it is impossible to kill a mage on the astral - you can only disrupt the astral form and send it back to the body.
Can you do physical attacks on the astral? Or is everything "astral", and only interpreted in ways "we" understand, like a "melee attack" which isn't really melee at all. You can't even use Physical spells on the astral.
I would see the "mage killing" the same as disrupting a spirit - the spirit isn't dead, it's just sent back to it's home plane. A disrupted astral mage returns to it's home plane (body).
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 9 2012, 11:09 AM)
I'd apply all to stun. And yes, that's definitely what would happen. I think that's fine. It indeed depends on whether you want astral forms to be disrupted (like the inverse of spirits), or for mages to actually die there. As a tradeoff, they'd be very fragile there, and their body would be taking physical damage from all attacks.
Exactly. This is how I would see it working.
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 9 2012, 11:09 AM)
I guess you could indeed say that astral physical damage gets shunted straight to the body (physical) track, in which case you could die on the astral. That brings us back the issues of Irion's 'cross-plane healing' and the lack of 'stranded astral mage' (which is so niche that I don't care too much). It's slightly more complex.
If my line of reasoning above is correct, there is no "astral physical" damage. Maybe stun-overflow from astral would appear on the body, showing what a powerful attack / massive amount of damage was sustained. I don't think there are any cross-plane healing issues with astral / physical track separation?