As I'm sure everyone knows, the backers of SRR get to vote on a 2nd city once the pledge drive stops. Here's a little unofficial poll to gauge people's interests! Any city (or cities) you think would be awesome gets an endorsement. Before long, the best will bubble to the surface.

List + Votes so far!

Note: clicking the below city names will take you to the wiki for more info. Yeah, I'm cool like that. If it's not clickable, then no one has put info in the wiki about that city. :-/

TIER 1 CITIES
Hong Kong (19 endorsements)
Berlin (18 endorsements)
Denver (18 endorsements)
Chicago (12 endorsements)
London (11 endorsements)
Neo-Tokyo (8 endorsements)

TIER 2 CITIES
Portland (Tir Tairngire capital) (4 endorsements)
Los Angeles (4 endorsements)
Australia/Outback (3 endorsements)
Lagos (3 endorsements)
Yomi Island (3 endorsements)
Las Vegas (2 endorsements)
SOX (2 endorsements)
Tenochtitlan (2 endorsements)
San Francisco (2 endorsements)
New Orleans (2 endorsements)
Montreal (2 endorsements)

TIER 3 CITIES
Philadelphia (1 endorsement)
New York (1 endorsement)
Vancouver (1 endorsement)
Hamburg (1 endorsement)
Rhine-Ruhr-Megaplex (1 endorsement)
St. Petersburg (1 endorsement)
Taipei (1 endorsement)
Dubai (1 endorsement)
Caribbean (1 endorsement)
Marseilles (1 endorsement)
Vladivostok (1 endorsement)
Paris (1 endorsement)
Boston (1 endorsement)
Cairo (1 endorsement)
Moscow (1 endorsement)
Belfast (1 endorsement)
Somewhere in Tír na nÓg (1 endorsement)
Saskatoon (1 endorsement)
Toronto (1 endorsement)

What are your choices?



Again, this is an UNOFFICIAL poll.

Only two real choices.

Philly
or
Vegas

Berlin

1) Shows some love to German shadowrun players
2) Berlin is awesome

St. Petersburg, failng that Berlin.

Berlin or Hong Kong.....

Eh, i am german... i hate having the setting in the ADL.

I am all for Hong-Kong. You know: Massive slum-towers of Kowloon and such; cramped and dangerous. And not that far away the glass towers of Wuxing.

I'd prolly go with Berlin or Hong Kong! If I had to choose right now, Berlin.

Hong Kong or L.A.

Me too. Berlin or Hong Kong.
Honorable Mention would be anything out of Feral Cities.

Hong Kong or New York.

Both are exactly what Shadowrun should be about: a kind of immigrant experience of trying to 'make it' by any means necessary and in spite of the crushing weight of society against you.

GIT SOME!

Failing that, London or Berlin.

Trying to keep the first post updated until it cuts me off from editing.

Vancouver, SSC

I'm all for Berlin in 2050. Just like Camelot, it is a silly place.

Hm.. Feral Cities you say? Could be interesting too... Lagos perhaps, You have the Ghoul-Nation there, Omnitech and S-K plundering the ressources, Pirates, Warlords in the area. Good area to make money and shoot people in face. (Also a pretty disgustingly bleak zone - good for the mood)

Ok, so i am saying: Hong Kong or Lagos.

Hong Kong

Bye
Thanee

Berlin, Hong Kong, or Vegas.

In this Order:
Berlin
Rhine-Ruhr-Megaplex
Hamburg
SOX
Australian Outback
Chicago
Denver

Hong Kong sounds good. I think one that would work equally well would be Taipei.

Of course, I think Dubai would be pretty interesting also.

SOX sounds fun, but there are lots of apportunities for interesting things going on in Hong Kong.

I found weblinks/wiki pages for the ones that you can't find:

Lagos:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagos

Rhine-Ruhr-Megaplex:
http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/113723/rhein-ruhr-megaplex (English description of the source book)
http://www.shadowiki.de/Rhein-Ruhr-Megaplex (German Wiki description)

St. Petersburg:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Petersburg

Taipei:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taipei

Dubai:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai

Thanks for these Zizi, unfortunately I was looking for info specifically relating to the Shadowrun versions of those cities and not the real-world variants.

Hong Kong would be awesome!

...or Marseilles.

Oh, sorry about that, I totally did not notice.

However, I think you should throw the Rhine-Ruhr-Megaplex links on there, in that case. Even if it is German, most can probably just Google Translate the wiki.

EDIT:
Taipei seem to be briefly covered in Taiwan (http://shadowrun.wikia.com/wiki/Taiwan).

EDIT2:
Not to encourage infringement, but if you want to read up on feral cities, just searching it on Google seems to yield quite a few copies on downloading sites. Too bad this isn't something a public library would typically carry...

EDIT3:
Can we put the feral cities (i.e. Chicago, Lagos) together with the "any of the feral cities" option?

Denver.

Hong Kong has very little canon information (remember, the game is based on the SR1-3 world), Chicago at its most interesting would be an entirely different kind of game (which would be cool, but I doubt that's the kind of extra work they were looking to take on), and Berlin's presentation is… somewhat controversial. Denver is the obvious choice, with the ability to support the same traditional run-based game but with all the borders providing opportunity for a very distinctive feel.

~J

I vote Roanapur!

failing that, LA

Bangkock.

No Neo-Tokyo? The heck?

Barring that, Chicago. Needs more bugs.

Done!



I would, but I think that could be a long list...lol




I was as surprised as you were. hahaha

Game takes place in 2050, so Bug City hasn't happened.

Yet. DLC anyone?

Somewhere in Australia.

Where women glow and men plunder?

EDIT: You know, it doesn't matter which city it is... We, the fans, built it by supporting our hobby!

I'm gonna have to go for Chicago. Given the 2050's setting, as Canray said, it would start out as a normal city but just beneath the surface bad things would be happening and the main plotline would obviously be the whole UB/bug conspiracy. As someone who didn't get to play Shadowrun before 4th edition I find all the old adventure paths interesting.

My second choice would be Denver, cos of the politics and intrigue.

Definately the GAFA (great australian fuck all)

Tokyo is a BIG no no as a setting because you can't have any metahumans there . .

Tenochtitlan!

Every time you mention DLC, a pixie loses its wings.


I imagine it's about as easy to do meta's in N-Tokyo as it would be if we were doing 60s San Francisco. Just gotta be stealthy about it.

I wish it could be in the Carib, or Australia, or even - god - London or Berlin, but you know the second city is going to be Denver, simply because it's going to be a ton easier to install the various threads, plots and stories in that desert cold-war zone.

Or SanFran - you could have some WILD car-chases there....

-Tir.

Oh right, i forgot about that one

Frisco did not have Death/Concentration Camps, right?

We need something exotic for the second Setting
Tir Taingire (If it looks like Lothlôrien) or Berllin (including the Wall)
would be my Votes

Hough!
Medicineman

And a troll gets a new pair!

Put ya down for Portland (I'm assuming that's the city in Tir you mean) and Berlin!

I'm a little surprised we've got 3 Australia endorsements. Aussies in da house!

London Please!

bug city Chicago or Chiba City

I'd have to go with Neo-Tokyo.
With Chicago coming in barring that.

I'm split between Denver and Philly.
Put me for Denver. Always wanted to go poke Mr. Whiteface.*

*Ghostwalker, duh.

I consider Chiba as a part of Neo-Tokyo, so that's what I put you down for. If you want it specifically split out, holler!

I think this provides a lot of good feedback for the SRR development team. It gives them a broad indication of what the group mind finds most interesting!

Have to remember the 2050 evolving timeline. Whatever city is chosen should have a good shakeup that runners can take part in.

Denver does well for the setup of pre and post Ghostwalker. Lots of sides to choose from there.

Chicago should be the first expansion city for sure, but I don't see it as a main city. Pre-bugs it was just a major UCAS metro area.

Hong Kong would be good for a few side things, but I don't see it being a marquee setting location. The former USA is really flexible as a setting specifically because it has so many cultures and business represented in a smaller area. I'm not as familiar with other locations to really comment on their diversity of crime/culture, but I know for sure that Denver and Seattle are soaking in options.

He's still off roaming the metaplanes, and will be for about a decade.

~J

Curse you timelines!
*Shakes a fish*

Is there anything established about St. Petersburg in canon, or did it get the same treatment as basically everything between Germany and Japan?


My personal preferences would be Denver or Berlin.
Denver would offer T-bird smuggling and the earliest hints of Otaku, plus enough NAN to make up for their recent fading. What I like about the old Berlin setting is the idea of an Anarchist city where you still have the corps, malls for the wealthy and even public transportation...sure there is no law against fare dodging, but the conductor can collect fares at gunpoint or just throw you out of the moving train. I know, lots of weirdness and one-upping in DidS, but HBS do not seem to stick to canon to the letter (mages recharging their power at Ley lines...) and thus could simply ignore some of the weirdest stuff.