QUOTE (Sengir @ Jan 24 2013, 08:21 PM)
And since you requested comments over at the mothership...you probably can guess which story I'm dissatisfied with
Hard as it is going to be for some people to believe this, considering the amount of clashing that you and I have done over this topic, I really am disappointed that my stuff doesn’t appeal to you.
I suppose with that screen name, though, it was more or less inevitable. We’ve got some serious disagreements about the topic and its history in the game. Not to mention my interpretation of existing canon.
I am sorry, though. I want everyone to like my stuff, and it pains me when they don’t.
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First of all, another iteration of "the UN forces X". Shadowrun borrows from a lot of dystopias, but so far core tenet of militia nutjobs, that "the UN" is some independent entity which can simply send forces somewhere, has not been one of them. Just as IRL, the UN is the sum of its constituents, and accordingly will do frag all to expose underhand dealings of corporations.
I’ll ignore the potential jab about "militia nutjobs," since I don’t imagine you were actually aiming it at me. I’m not going to get into a political discussion on this, either.
I didn’t invent the notion within SR that the UN has somehow grown some teeth. It’s clearly not the same organization in the 2070s that it is in the 2010s. Some writer before me, though, came up with that notion. It’s been established elsewhere that the UN can do some of the stuff that it does; I just ran with it.
Personally, I wonder which Corporate Court justice let them off their leap, and if something might be done about it one of these days. We’ll have to see; that’s really not my baileywick. I expect that heads might roll, figuratively if not literally, for letting the UN get too big for its britches.
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Secondly, the idea used to be that Asamando practices happy eugenics by sterilizing feral ghouls and sending them to the mines, while promoting the procreation of the ghoulish master race. So why hide ferals in black site prisons? If there ever were too many ferals to put them to use as expendable labor, I'm sure a ghoul nation there might just find another use for those extra bodies...
And they just might be using a eugenics program, and they might be sending them to the mines. But if they’ve been lying this whole time (and Thema Laula seemed the type to lie her ass off to any and everyone available, up to and including her own daughter), and there’s just too damn many of them? And you’re trying to win recognition from a body that really doesn’t matter, but has really become assertive? You lie some more, and you tell the world one number, you tell the world what you’re doing with that first number, and you hide the rest. Some of them become dinner for your people, some of them wind up in the mines.
The numbers, though, were largely unsustainable in my view. I didn’t see how things could possibly work, considering how many hungry mouths there are to feed in a nation of half a million souls.
Add to that the notion of "Infected rights" is ludicrous on its very face. It’s a dark, dark world, and attempts to turn it into a shinier, happier world didn’t make any sense. Getting all touchy-feely with someone who might kill and eat you isn’t a very good move.
Again, I’m sorry to lose you. You seem to want pathos; I don’t think that’s in the best interest of humanity or the game world. I see it a lot differently than you do, and I’ve learned to deal with that. So Asamando takes it hard, and Infected rights in the bargain. I think it’ll make a better story than what was happening.
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QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 25 2013, 01:45 AM)
Shadowrun has been borrowing more and more ideas and vocabulary from the American Right's mainstream (which used to be thew Right fringe a decade ago) for some time now. Ever since the freelancer purge, I think, though it might have started before.
Yup, especially when dealing with UCAS politics and the going-ons in Washington D.C.
I will cop to being a part of the American right. I will stop there.
Except to say that I didn’t start that trend, and I think a chunk of it began before the purge.
Gotta split this one up; too many quotes.