pbangarth
Nov 11 2023, 11:03 PM
Hmmm. I guess to be seen, one has to be seen to be rich.
Fuck it. He goes for it. He didn't embarrass himself in the back hall, so let it happen out here.
sunnyside
Nov 12 2023, 07:33 AM
I was just struck by how very different things are going from how I imagined this to go when I was writing the plot. But that's the fun of having players. Otherwise I could just have tried writing a novel.
pbangarth
Nov 12 2023, 05:14 PM
So, for the team and the GM, that particular Enthralling Performance roll is on the better side of average. The hits would be added to any perception roll a listener would make while enthralled. Team members will have to be sure to know Bongo is doing it, (Be warned?) so they don't get mesmerized, too.
Imagine having to sneak past a guard whose target number to see you is 8 higher.
sunnyside
Nov 13 2023, 07:50 PM
Well, in terms of not being warned this time, if Selina went straight for the third floor after the last song she would be up there before Rose managed to get off the stage and to Bongo.
pbangarth
Nov 13 2023, 08:40 PM
I assume a Perception Test to notice any resistant ones is the GM's purview.
sunnyside
Nov 14 2023, 07:21 AM
I'm inclined to say that it isn't so easy to tell if enthralling performance has worked on someone or not. I'm not reading it like a spell attack that is resisted and stuns people, though that might have made more sense. Rather it seems to apply its perception effect to everybody that can view Bongo and perceive the performance. However if they were heading to the bar, they might keep going or generally go about their business. It does mention folks getting snapped out of it though.
This also partly helps with stealth. Bongo can play and affect perception without everyone turning into zombies which might well alert anybody watching the cameras or expecting guards to check in.
Thanee
Nov 14 2023, 11:48 AM
QUOTE (sunnyside @ Nov 14 2023, 08:04 AM)

(OOC: Huh, you really had the specialization).
You mean (Dance)?

Bye
Thanee
sunnyside
Nov 14 2023, 05:56 PM
QUOTE (Thanee @ Nov 14 2023, 06:48 AM)

You mean (Dance)?

Bye
Thanee
Yup
Unfortunately I don't think the aura reading specialization is going to work out so well in this case. I'll specifically refer to the quote "Astral forms are more colorful and brighter than auras" to indicate that they are different things. The reflection of physical things in the astral are auras, but wards are a purely astral construct. So that and the background count would knock Selina down to three dice.
Perhaps assensing for unchanging things would be something that could be repeated, barring glitches, and Fiona can "fly" around to try and carefully peek to find the extent of the ward, but Selina would have to stall to give time for all that.
Thanee
Nov 14 2023, 06:21 PM
Yeah, it does not help with general, astral perception, just with that Assensing test to gain information about someone/something. That is specifially for Auras, as mentioned in the text on p. 191 SR4A (second paragraph under Astral Perception).
Astral Forms should still have Auras as well, which is what you interprete when assensing them. It is a bit more detailed in Street Magic p. 112, though still not entirely clear. Either way, it would be pretty weird, if you could not assense an Astral Form or, more specifically, an Astral Form's Aura. There should be an Aura either way.

She is just looking for obvious stuff here, anything active in astral space, like actual Astral Forms (i.e. patrolling spirits), which are like bright lights in a shadowy mass and easy to see (i.e. no roll required

).
Bye
Thanee
pbangarth
Nov 16 2023, 04:39 AM
On my sheet here I have his CHA as 1 + 5. I'll check the arithmetic and figure out which one is a typo.
Thanee
Nov 16 2023, 06:30 AM
QUOTE (sunnyside @ Nov 16 2023, 05:27 AM)

For Selina, being led to the otherwise inviting doors by Mike, the only issue would be if she had any active spells or items (OOC: As I understand it fashion isn't magical after the required turns of sustaining, and I don't think fetishes have an issue, so I think she's Ok).
Selina has nothing active (except at the moment the Astral Perception, of course, which she will drop before heading in). She can just go through.
I thought, we were through the door and ward, already... now I also get this part here!

QUOTE (sunnyside @ Nov 14 2023, 06:56 PM)

... but Selina would have to stall to give time for all that.
Bye
Thanee
sunnyside
Nov 16 2023, 07:08 PM
QUOTE (Thanee @ Nov 16 2023, 01:30 AM)

I thought, we were through the door and ward, already... now I also get this part here!

Yeah, I thought she might have a wardrobe malfunction going through the ward, and wasn't sure she didn't have something else active. I think we have that sorted.
You could roll for Fiona if you like, otherwise Ican just do it later today.
pbangarth
Nov 16 2023, 07:10 PM
The 1+4 = 6 on Bongo's stats was a typo. I fixed it. In order to reach the 357 karma points for Attributes, his CHA has to be 6.
Thanee
Nov 16 2023, 07:25 PM
QUOTE (sunnyside @ Nov 16 2023, 08:08 PM)

You could roll for Fiona if you like, otherwise Ican just do it later today.
Fiona rolled
3 hits (assuming there is BGC 1 still), this will be opposed by 2x Force of the Barrier.
Fiona needs 1 net hit to make it through, otherwise she cannot pass the Barrier.
Bye
Thanee
Thanee
Nov 17 2023, 02:47 PM
So, this is where our Heroics compulsions are going to kick in...

Bye
Thanee
pbangarth
Nov 17 2023, 03:57 PM
QUOTE (Thanee @ Nov 17 2023, 09:47 AM)

So, this is where our Heroics compulsions are going to kick in...

Bye
Thanee
Yup. 'Cause one of us just
had to go up where the underage girls are being exploited.
pbangarth
Nov 17 2023, 06:03 PM
You do realize, Koekepan, that "Mr. Snake" is gonna stick?
Koekepan
Nov 17 2023, 06:53 PM
That's what they call him on the porno circuit, too.
sunnyside
Nov 17 2023, 10:33 PM
QUOTE (Thanee @ Nov 17 2023, 09:47 AM)

So, this is where our Heroics compulsions are going to kick in...

Bye
Thanee
A solution isn't clear enough to require a compulsion roll. You have to operate around a fair bit of dystopian stuff you can't necessarily resolve.
But yeah.
I like how Deadlands handles these sorts of things. Instead of characters trying to work around disadvantages, they get rewards, sort of like getting karma, when they lean into them in story appropriate ways. So it's more like that in these cases.
pbangarth
Nov 23 2023, 03:18 AM
Yeah, sometimes business has to come first. Bongo's gotta pay himself back for that table somehow.
sunnyside
Nov 28 2023, 05:53 AM
I'm still here. I'm just wary of doing many posts before Thanee.
If you don't want to engage, Selina could just be uncomfortable, confirm nobody involved in the photo seems to be there, and Mike could take her away. You have a woman to focus on, you could choose to come back to this later.
Thanee
Nov 28 2023, 06:32 AM
Sorry! Work is just very busy at the moment.

I will check in later today!
Bye
Thanee
Thanee
Dec 1 2023, 08:48 AM
QUOTE (sunnyside @ Nov 28 2023, 06:53 AM)

If you don't want to engage, Selina could just be uncomfortable, confirm nobody involved in the photo seems to be there, and Mike could take her away. You have a woman to focus on, you could choose to come back to this later.
Right now, this isn't really helping us, yeah.
Bye
Thanee
sunnyside
Dec 5 2023, 06:25 AM
So I had to look up the details of drinking Absinth since it came up, but I hadn't done it that way myself. I got curious enough to get a bottle and absinth spoon.
I have to say I'm a fan! Give it a try if you like cocktails at all.
Thanee
Dec 5 2023, 09:14 AM
With no actual magical security around, Fiona could maybe use her Influence power on one of the managers (the one that was not arguing for turning the third floor into a regular area), to nudge him into that direction as well.

She just needs a shadowy area to materialize without people noticing, but that shouldn't be too hard to find here. And afterwards, she should probably remove the traces of magic-use in the astral, before heading back out again.
QUOTE
INFLUENCE
Type: M • Action: Complex • Range: LOS • Duration: Instant
The Influence power allows a being to insinuate suggestions into
a target’s mind, predisposing that person to some form of action, reaction,
or emotion. Make an Opposed Test between the being’s Magic +
Charisma and the target’s Willpower. If successful, the target will carry
out the suggestion. If confronted with the wrongness of the suggestion,
the subject can make a Willpower Test to overcome it as described
under Mental Manipulations, p. 210.
The BGC will hurt a bit, but with Edge that could still work decently.
Bye
Thanee
sunnyside
Dec 5 2023, 06:36 PM
Is there a rule somewhere for erasing Astral signatures other than using the cleansing metamagic?
I think, per raw AFAIK, powers don't have a noticibilty like spells, so that would make a sneaky cast possible. The advantage of a subtle effect is folks might not think anything happened and check the way they would for combat spells.
pbangarth
Dec 5 2023, 08:11 PM
QUOTE (sunnyside @ Dec 5 2023, 01:36 PM)

Is there a rule somewhere for erasing Astral signatures other than using the cleansing metamagic?
I think, per raw AFAIK, powers don't have a noticibilty like spells, so that would make a sneaky cast possible. The advantage of a subtle effect is folks might not think anything happened and check the way they would for combat spells.
SR4 p 192, under Astral Signatures, last sentence.
Thanee
Dec 5 2023, 09:35 PM
Yeah, you can wipe away the traces of recent magic, so you won't see any lingering auras from the magic use. Mostly takes time, really, so if you are in a hurry, you might not be able to.
Cleansing is for actual background count, I believe.
Bye
Thanee
sunnyside
Dec 6 2023, 06:01 AM
Cleansing does signatures too, and faster, but I see what you're talking about.
The room doesn't have a lot of cover. But for a cat they could try hiding underneath a table, behind someone's legs, maybe around a doorway they don't think will be used for a bit.
So I'd think describe what you're trying and then it would be an infiltration roll and then a roll for the power. Cleaning up the signature is just time, and it seems to be time one could spend astrally. You wouldn't be to start the process until the power isn't active, but this particular one is instant anyway. The realistic form also helps as a cat might be odd to see there but not cause an automatic hostile reaction the way an obvious spirit might (unless someone spots the materialization itself).
Thanee
Dec 6 2023, 06:26 AM
Okay.
Infiltration
3 hitsInfluence + Edge
7 hitsBye
Thanee
sunnyside
Dec 6 2023, 06:46 AM
I just made an IC post. In your reply you could flesh that out some.
sunnyside
Dec 9 2023, 06:24 AM
I guess with the groups sort of splitting up I could advance with the two. I don't want to leave you hanging too long.
On that note if you're hung up I won't put people down for short posts. It's fun to flesh things out, but sometimes a one liner keeps things moving forward.
It's also fine to generally describe how you're conducting a conversation or interaction to advance time. The game sort of already has that in RAW with legwork where your character may be engaging in longer conversations with a range of contacts, but the GM just shares some relevant snippets.
sunnyside
Dec 11 2023, 10:42 PM
Ran across Pbangarth's thread on how long he's been here. Which introduced me to the term "magicrun" which led me down a bit of a rabbit hole, which ultimately led to
http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?show...t&p=1270116So I guess a couple of you have quite the history here.
pbangarth
Dec 11 2023, 11:12 PM
I don't feel old.
sunnyside
Dec 12 2023, 01:23 AM
QUOTE (pbangarth @ Dec 11 2023, 06:12 PM)

I don't feel old.
I believe your exact phrasing was "the oldest"
Those of us past 40 appreciate having a place to have fun where we can still be the upstart whisper snapper!
sunnyside
Dec 13 2023, 06:32 PM
So to make sure I understood the post you're driving underneath the uptown structure north along Falls street until you reach and manhole, which looks to be just a bit before East Ware Street.
From there you have an unobstructed line of sight on Frank's window, but you aren't underneath it.
Koekepan
Dec 14 2023, 03:58 PM
No, driving one block away, keeping a polite distance as it were. But yes, finding a manhole and parking there. There's no call to approach too closely at this stage.
pbangarth
Dec 14 2023, 08:54 PM
oh. Does that mean Bongo doesn't see the window?
Koekepan
Dec 15 2023, 03:11 PM
Oh, he should see it. Big, tall building towering over the environment? It'll be up there. He's just not directly under it.
pbangarth
Dec 15 2023, 04:13 PM
Got it.
sunnyside
Dec 15 2023, 09:03 PM
I was going to have tube drive ahead, to about 24th and greemont, at which point you wouldn't be able to see the window even if you cpuld see the building.. The problem is his window is on the underside of the angular arch spanning Falls street. So good views are avaoloble on Falls street, but elsewhere it's the issue of trying to see underneath a bridge. If Falls street continued in either direction you could go there, but the road is just access to the back of the rowhomes and has T intersections at both 24th and 25th.
But you could assume Tube cruised slowly past. I think you have an adept ability for this sort of thing.
Edit: You do. I'll make a post. Tubesnake can reposition if they wish.
pbangarth
Dec 15 2023, 09:09 PM
Multi-tasking might apply, indeed.
pbangarth
Dec 20 2023, 06:42 PM
As an aside, have Willie and Flatline been retired for now?
sunnyside
Dec 22 2023, 03:28 AM
I had the same thought since the others are going slow. I pmed crossbow about ideally playing but if not letting me use their char as an NPC. I haven't heard back yet. Though since they didn't post I could just swap in a different character. I suppose on this forum I can even do things like change names in posts to retcon stuff.
pbangarth
Dec 23 2023, 02:28 AM
Crossbow is the GM in one of the other campaigns I'm in here on DS, so they are around.
sunnyside
Dec 24 2023, 07:55 AM
They haven't been on in days. But maybe a slow but consistent pace is more the norm here. That's worked out for me. I've been sick this last week.
Hope Thanee is OK. They're in multiple games and made a couple posts on the 6th and then just vanished.
Thanee
Dec 25 2023, 08:50 AM
Sorry! I am here, just have been more busy than expected with end of year work and stuff.
Right now, Selina has not a whole lot to add, but she could send Fiona to the place to check it out from the astral.

Merry Christmas!
Bye
Thanee
sunnyside
Dec 27 2023, 07:27 AM
I'm flexible on if you'd want to advance time. A few hours could give Angel time to carefully crack that node and maybe Mike would be asleep, depending on how Selina chooses for things to go.
Thanee
Jan 1 2024, 03:38 PM
Happy New Year!

Bye
Thanee
pbangarth
Jan 1 2024, 09:53 PM
Happiness to all!
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