Well, there is the nuke the city and let whatever God they believe in sort them out ptio, but I doubt that the President will use it.

EDIT: Looking back, that was from a bit ago. So service could have gone drasticly downhill from there.

I got that impression from that Blog i think i saw linked earlier in this thread. He had done a phone interview of a local personality that was staying in the Superdome. Spotty, sure. Emergency situations are like that now. Especially since we don't have the disipline of Isrealis that have learned to make very quick calls to friends/family whenever a rocket attack/suicide bombing occurs.

How popular are those 2-way radio/cell combos down there?

I figured even just a half-dozen Blackhawks and a couple of Apaches pounding air near the worst problem areas as they ferry troops in would be enough to signal that he party is over. At least for the rational, organized people.

The people that are jonesing are a different kettle of fish as they simply aren't going to be thinking straight, and i don't know how much training those troops are going to have dealing with drug addicts. That is where the worse scenes are going to happen, especially if the drug addict somehow got hold of a firearm.

The drug addict are easily dealt with by airdroping lage ammounts of choice drugs onto the area.

I cannot picture the Bush Adminstration allowing federal troops to do that. Even he GW Bush could bring himself to personally think it the right thing, given his personal history, he would take it HARD from a very significant core of his political supporters.

Two big differences. The first is that these would be people w/o drugs looking to get them, possibily in a psychotic state. The second is that this is truely a civilian job in NO, with US citizens to boot, as opposed something a LOT closer to full military combat in Iraq.

I totally agree. But they still would have lots of experience dealing with drug crazed lunatics.

That is true, but it doesn't matter. He is on his last term. He can tell them all to frag off because there is no possible place to go from there except retirement. It is a state of emergency. Sometimes you have to do unusual things in a state of emergency.

If they are willing to get drugs to hydrocarbon and hidric acid addicts they should not have any problem with getting drugs to people with less common chemical dependancies.

Humvees? Naw. Too many people have 7.62mm ammunition. Goes right through even the armor on 'em.

Send in some Bradleys.

I don't think they should waste their time getting drugs to waterheads. Instead of bringing in clean water they should just shoot all water addicts.

Hyzmarca has stated that they're entitled to loot because the law's gone, Shadow; why wouldn't drug addicts be just as entitled to rampage because they can't get their fix?

Complete and total sarcasm.

Everyone is addicted to something. Most people are addicted to water, hydrocarbons, fats, amino acids, sterioids, vitamins and minerals to different degrees. Other people are addicted to more exotic chemicals.

There are many people who have to take powerful perscription drugs every day simply to function. Many of these would die if they went too long without their perscription drugs. Others would be able to survive but would suffer greatly or go insane.

My father, for example, is a disabled veteran who served in the Marines during the Vietnam era. Every motnth the VA sends him several bottles of drugs, including a powerful and highly addictive anti-anxiety medication. My father doesn't suffer from anxiety. He did a little over 20 years ago when they were first perscribed. He has been taking them for so long that withdrawl would threaten his life so the VA continues to send it.

Not all drug addicts are street thugs. Most of them are good people who suffer from medical problems. I find your statement to be rather simple-minded, asinine and terribly fatuous.

We should provide drugs to people who need them, not deny elderly veterans the necessaties of life and then shoot them when they mistake relief workers for VC.

(Just to clarify, my father is in no danger of mistaking anyone for VC. He was stationed in Misawa, intercepting Soviet navel transmissions, during the war. The worst he would mistake people for is Japanese hookers.)

If there are any living diabetics in New Orleans at the moment it is for one of three reasons.

1) they had a supply of insulin that they were able to save.
2) the relief workers were able to give them insulin.
3) They stole insulin form hospitals, drug stores, or other diabetics.


At this point it really doesn't matter what they are addictied to, only that they cannot function without that chemical. It is simply prudent to provide refugees with the drugs that they need, whatever those drugs may be.

If you are going to start shooting people because you don't want to waste resouces on them then you might as well just nuke New Orleans and get it over with. Mass extermination is a very efficient and cost effective way to deal with refugees.

So how you going to tell the difference between josesing junkie and the diabetic that has slipped into a psychotic state? Ask him? That's why it's not a good idea to have street cops going around handing out execution sentences.

People don't need crack, cocaine, and heroine. They need sleep, food, and water, and in some cases insulin and other life saving drugs.

Providing narcotics to addicts (who are addicts by choice) is absurd.

Not because they are diabetic, anyways.

I would rather not machine-gun villages because it is the easiest out, though.

No, that probably isn't the correct term for it. But before they are in a comma they do appear intoxicated and right out of it. However if i was a diabetic that had some stockpiled but ran out and i'm worried about the mean streets and i have a weapon i'm likely to carry it as i go searching for the meds i need to live. I'm also going to look like shit no matter how clean and upstanding i looked before.

*bang*

Judgement past, sentence served.

EDIT: And mercy on the schizophrenics that run out of meds and have an episode.

You've obviously never seen someone withdrawing from these drugs. They are useless to the relief effort while they are suffering from withdrawl. They can't even help themseles. If you give them what they need they might become productive if you can guarentee them a steady supply. There is something to be said for the usefullness to drug-adicted slave-workers, as any SR megacorp knows

Also, cocaine isn't a narcotic, it is s stimulant. Crack is a different form of cocain. Heroine is a narcotic. It is a minor distinction, but an important one.

Your going to fit in nicely around here. You are of course correct.

And a National Guard or Marine? I'm not being dramatic to make it look bad, i'm pointing out why you don't send a policing force into a city and tell them shoot-on-sight for 'druggies'.

No one ever said that. They said shoot the people who are shooting at the rescue forces. Most of which happen to be drug addicts.

Whhy are we focusing on diabetics? How about bi-polars who have lost their lithium and have gone into a manic state while living near an abandoned gun store?

What about schizophrenics who no longer have the pills that quiet the vioces in their heads?

What about PTSDed vets who don't have access to the extacy they were self-medicating with because the DEA won't approve clinical testing for the drug?

Sorry, i could have sworn that someone said that. I must have just got some smoke in my eye from my crack pipe.

EDIT: No wait, it was a puff of smoke from your bong.

Really?

Are you really that stupid?

~J

If that isn't sig worthy, I don't know what is.

Sorry about that. I assumed you guys would pick up on the sarcasm. I'll be more elementary next time.

Actually, I'm a bit confused now.

I thought that Ronin's point was that only guilty people run from cops or that the innocent have nothing to fear from the police. A position rather trusting of authority.

And I thought Kage understood Ronin's sarcasm but feels that running away is absolutely no proof of guilt. One where there is considerably less trust of the powers-that-be than Ronin's.

So my read is that if Ronin's point is that it's correct to implicitly trust authority, Kage is calling that idea absolutely ludicrous.

No, it just means that you're in a racial group that rarely if ever encounters a suspicious cop. You're definitely in the majority. Most people don't run from cops. But for most people, interactions with on-duty police are extremely rare. I would imagine yours are too.

It's like a seat belt. I don't wear it because of my driving. I wear it because of the other guy's. Same with the police. I know I'm not guilty and under normal circumstances, I'll give the police the benefit of the doubt. But in times of stress (London bombings, NO), I'm a bit more wary. Not least because in NO right now, it's easy for the police to enter an us vs. the unwashed masses mentality.

I'd probably stop trusting the police more if I kept getting hassled because I fell into a racial group that was profiled (either south Asians or young blacks males).

I'd try to avoid the cops more if every time they see me or my friends, their hands go to their holsters or call for backup.

I'd probably run from the "heroes of 9/11" if I was in NY during 1997-1999 during the Amadou Diallo and Abner Louima times.