that makes a bit of sense but you still have to take into account the fact that (in no particular order):
- currently texas has about 104,000 soldiers in the armed forces, that's the third largest amount with california being the 1st. When the split happens i would assume that 2/3 if not 3/4 of the texans in the armed forces are going to chose the confederacy.

- There are currently 3 army bases 4 airforcebases and 2 naval bases in texas. i'm not sure how that would come into play but there it is.

- Now when aztlan decides to invade, you better belive that at least 90% of texans in the armed forces, no matter which side they're on are gonna find there way back to texas

- currently there are about 8 guns to every 1 person in texas

- historically tejanos (hispanic texans) played a large roll in texas independance i'm sure that wouldn't change in the future. and there's quite a few hispanics in texas, including myself Then there's all the illegals, they left for a reason, you could probably count at least 1/2 of them to resist.

- this might not play any significant role but, catholicism is outlawed in aztlan. there are quite a few catholics in texas. i'm sure some of them wouldn't want aztlan in texas as well.

-now this prolly won't matter, but, i'm from a border town and while ppl of border towns might get along with their nieghbors across the river they're attitude towards mexicans is prolly more harsh than most. take that how ever you'd like.

History shows that that simply isn't true. The right propaganda can turn any majority gainst any minority and Lone Eagle was more than enough propaganda.

It is natural for one social group to oppress another. It may even be necessary. Having a 'them' to attack makes 'us' more cohesive.

Well, several US states had already been lost through surrender and the USA did not exist anymore. Texas was pretty much on its own so taking it would have been trivial. Keeping it is another matter. Offense is always easier than defense. Of course,

When did it cease being more than a whisper?

I also love you guys tossing around the word Hispanic with regards to Aztlan. That's fucking comedy gold. I'm sure the non-Mexicans really give a damn.

That is were you would be wrong, ppl know they are being oppressed no matter how nice a face you put on it. Also, considering that hispanics are in general Catholic, your PR dept would have to be some slick mother fuckers to make ppl like you after you outlaw their religion.

As far as the timing theory goes, that would certainly make more sense. Attack when they just got thru fighting a war.

Either way the whole Shadowrun world was created by a group of young geeks from Chicago who obviously didn't know very much about anything outside their small city ( ). Now they are much older and wealthier geeks who are more knowledgable about the world.

Don't mess with Texas.

Corrected

The great thing about the Awakening is the ability to prove or disprove the validity of certain religious claims. The Aztechnology PR department is slick enough to convince people that Christianity is simply not the correct cosmological view.

Huitzilopochtli answers prayers far more often Jesus and Jehova ever did and you can talk to a Feathered Serpent in person. If Constantine could make Catholicism the official religion while outlawing the worship of the real gods without being overthrown then Azlan certainly can rectify that mistake.

The secularization of the world in the past few decades hit a hard blow against Christianity and the Roman Catholic Church in particular. The Awakening made things even worse. Christianity is really little more than a fringe cult again. Those that have any religious inclination at all find themselves drawn to the old ways which seem to actually work now.

There are Catholic 'terrorists' in Aztlan but far too few to actually cause any trouble.
Who would want to worship a 2000 year-old shedim-possessed corpse anyway?

Who needs 8 guns? Serioulsy.

Variety is the spice of life, they say.

I personally don't own any guns, but I know people who own a half-dozen or more firearms... it's not so crazy, all things considered. A pistol for general defense/back-up purposes, a shotgun, an old Russian sniper rifle kept for coolness factor, an old Springfield '06 kept for nostalgia purposes, a decent .30 for hunting and a .22 for small prey and can-plinking, a lever-action Marlin and lever-action Winchester that they refurbished... it adds up. And that's not considering bows, swords, knives and other non-gunpowder implements of destruction.

Some might say that the only difference between a collection and an arsenal is whether there's anyone you want to shoot at the moment.

Thing is, Christian preists got lots of miracles during the Awakening too, so the Awakening probably wouldn't hurt Christianity too much.

But the Catholic Church need some more years to accept that.

Not at all. The part I think doesn't make sense is that they only got half.

As for the religion argument, keep in mind that this is in the middle of the largest series of faith-shaking events ever. I'm amazed non-fanatical religion still exists in the Sixth World, quite frankly.

~J

It's not a question of what you "need." It's a question of what you might someday need, but more importantly it's a question of what you want, and most importantly it's, of course, a question of what you can afford.

Guns are, believe it or not, just like anything else. They can be a hobby, or a collection, just as easily as they can be an "arsenal." You buy one, you talk to other gun owners at the range, you see something cool at the gunshop, you notice the neat new toy the guy in the next lane has...maybe you get on-line and chat it up on some big forum, maybe you get a magazine every now and then. Hell, maybe you play RPGs or FPS video games, and get some cool ideas (like the WWII rifles you can buy for less than a hundred bucks, that are still in awesome shape and quite shootable).

Maybe you think about the different things you want a gun for. Practicing and everyday cheap-ammo plinking? Some little 22 semi-auto handgun. Concealed Carry? A whole range of 9mm or 45 (or larger, or smaller) for everyday carry (ranging from $200 to $2000 or more). Hunting? One gun for deer, a shotgun for ducks, a 22 long rifle for the kids rabbit hunting, a .223 for dad to varmint hunt with. SHTF scenario? Cheapie SKS, robust AK, accurate M4gery, classic .308. Then you get into shooting clubs or into a reactive target or 3-gun league, and gotta get your own "race gun" tweaked up rifle, shotgun, and pistol... and, of course, there's the Old West/Single-Action shooter guys, with matching pearl-handled revolvers, a nice lever action rifle, an old school shotgun...and...and...

See? It's quick and easy to get hooked.

Inside the next two years, in my home alone, I plan on having my Glock 19, a carbine that'll take the same magazines as that Glock 19, my old bolt-action 22 rifle, a handgun for my wife to plink with (22, same ammo), a shotgun for home defense, and a long gun (besides the alraedy mentioned pistol-ammo carbine), and that's not counting my bows. That's six, right there, and that's if I stop at one of each. And me? I'm just gettin' started at gun ownership.

And, hell, I'm not even a Texan.

Next you'll be doubting my collection of 6 swords.

I wouldn't be too bothered. The Azzies got stopped at the river so all they got were the crappy low-rent housing south of it, that turned into a hotbed of anti-Azzie groups, and Texas/CAS got to keep the downtown and high value industrial areas north of it. Just think Berlin back during the Cold War with the I-35 bridge as the only link between the two halves standing in for Checkpoint Charlie. And with Aztlan kicked out of Denver it's become an espionage hotspot when a lot of agents moved south. Austin's also still the state capital although the politicians meet in the provisional capital of the Dallas/Fort Worth sprawl.

That's a point. Did it ever say if there was a concrete peace settlement/treaty? Or was it more a long term ceasefire, shades of North and South Korea?

Can't remember anything concrete, but I think it's the latter. Barring any concrete information, if I ever get back to writing for this part of the SR world again, that's more or less what it's going to be.

oh i dont know lets see......

1 anti-tank rifle/mini gun
2 pistols (minimum)
1 SMG'
1 sniper rifle
1 carbine
1 assault rifle
1 machine gun

sounds like a decent mix for a ATV mounted operation

Uh what about Zilker Park, all the nifty restraunts on Barton Springs, Threadgill's, all the nice little shops on S. Lamar, Kirby Lane, the Magnolia Cafe, Fran's Burgers, all the good to halfway decent mexican restraunts on South 1st, the nice shops on S. Congress, the Vulcan Video (or is it the I Love Video?), and all the small locally owned cafes and coffe shops, the C&S Bar, the Broken Spoke... the list could go on.

I think the Azzies got the better deal to honest.

Edit: and as far as the 8 guns to 1 person comment, I think that's ppl in general, it isn't excluding kids and such. So obviously there's a few ppl picking up the kids slack. When are those kids gonna get with the program and own their own guns?

Well I'm from the United States and there are guns everywhere. I don't think anyone feels safe here.

-Frank

We have a similarity, called "Grundgesetz" (=basic constitutional law), which was installed in iirc 1949(1949 - obviously after WW2.
Remember that the german history is much longer than the US one and Germany had been diversed into several states for hundreds of years, so our two countries went a very different road.

And yes, all the rights granted by our Grundgesetz ared used daily, i.e. the freedom of speech.

a quarter of the people who died DEFENDING the Alamo originally against Santa Anna were hispanics.

Atlan was able to take part of Texas because Texa left the CAS. After Mexico handed them their heads, they begged for readmittance to the CAS and the sides balanced out.