Only on the inside?

~J

http://eurekaaerospace.com/impsar.php

This one is using microwave (and obviously a very, very early concept development), the next-door neighbor to milliwave. I don't see any milliwave stuff handy, but i -think- it currently has limited applications of very short rang, non-destructive structural inspection. I wish i could find it. I know know that milliwave is used in place of optical and near-optical range laser ranging for situations where things like mist would interfere with the light beam.

You mean like Oblivion?

Th matrix wouldn't be too difficult. I wouldn't expect "ooooooo" graphics so much as the ability to move from node to node and take control of security cameras and turrets. The former can be implimented with teleportation and statmods. The latter by whatever method they decide to use to take control of cameras and turrets. It has been done before.

The Astral plane would be several times easier. It is just no-clip mode more some glowing.

I disagree. I don't think MS is insulting players of Shadowrun. I think they're completely disregarding them. That's not the same as insult. You take yourself too seriously.

It is said that in the gaming industry, the masses matter, but the core players (the hardcore) are whom the masses follow.

But yeah, I'm probably making too much of it. I wrote a letter expressing my distaste with MechAssault back in the day, and that turned out... alright.

You and me, both, buddy.

To what end? That is what i ment by gameplay, a REASON for it to exist. Really look at playing SR. Astral is a sort of a game onto itself, with it's different movement rates and such. And it's use in game is reall magical in nature and self referencing, you aren't even suppose to see much of the meat world while you are there.

This is even more true of the Matrix, especially in SR3. Remember they don't have the license for SR4 so they could match up with the world of AR and wireless. Sure they could implement something like Tribes 2 with you able to squat down and "jump into" cameras and turrets. But really the VR Matrix itself wouldn't be there, because in SR P&P it really is a separate world.

A different type of game they could do that in, but apparently that isn't the type of game they figured would be something they could sell as well as this. This is the computer industry. Take a look at the various iconic console franchises and how many of them did a crossover from action or hopping puzzle action to RPG. Any sense of canon between the two is limited to little more than a superficial motif.

Add one more.

This game isn't Shadowrun. No way.

I'm a diehard Playstationgamer and when I heard about this game I feared that I might have to choose between PS3 and Xbox360. Thank you Microsoft for making sure that I don't have to chose.

Oh right, this predates the Crash too, by 8 years. Really this game is pre-Shadowrun.

Umm, WTF is a Troll with Wired-4 and a Mossberg doing then? It might not happen all the time, or even that often at most tables. But shit like that happens in the P&P RPG, and you know what? It can be damn fun.

But that aside you can say what you think. You can even say "well i was going to buy a 360 for an RPG SR, but not for this %$#@". But in the end i suspect they don't really give a rat's ass. Because the market they are aiming for is the person that wants a team centered FPS. That is the slot in the line-up this is aimed for, and they are targeting people that are interested in that sort of game.

He advances tactically, taking advantage of his surroundings, exposing himself minimally while trusting his advantage in reaction speed to allow him to take out the opposition if he's caught in the open.

I'm not saying insane cartoon campaigns aren't allowed in PnP RPGs, but I posit that the majority of SR RPG players do not imagine their trolls fucking bunnyjumping.

No problem with that. I'm sure there's something of a market for Unreal Tournament 06: Now With Elf Wizards! I'd imagine this simple a game can't be very expensive to make, so they might even make a slight profit with it. However, there appears to be a number of people in denial of the fact that this is nothing but a basic no-brains shoot-em-up, with some shadowrun-esque influences.

2021 man, orcs are just showing up. Trolls too, although I guess they moved to the Brazilian climes faster. :^|. Welcome to prehistoric Shadowrun!

Link for the trailer please. I looked under videos at their site and didn't see anything. Couldn't find anything on Shadowrun at all on Gamespot.

I'd wager more money than i expect to see in my lifetime.

Who would those people be? They haven't looked at the site then, because it is very clearly being marketed as a team based arena duel game.

P.S. I don't play them much anymore, but your assumptions about people not using tactical advancement in FPS in general is...dubious a mistaken stereotype.

Preparing for the onslaught of people looking for the video game and landing at the P&P site. Well hopefully they'll pick up at least a smidgen of halo business.

Let's put it like this: Both Reservoir Dogs and MI3 cost more money to produce then I'm likely to see in my lifetime, but Reservoir Dogs only needed to bring in $2 million to make a decent profit.

AFAIK, this is more or less a mod for an existing commercial FPS engine. That's gonna cost a hell of a lot less to produce than something like Half-Life 2.

For example, a poster named "TheLaughingMan" in the At Ease, Children thread that AH started: "Microsoft already has the premier FPS game in the console realm at this point in the Halo franchise. What makes you think they just want another FPS?" Etc.

I do not disagree with you there.

Well, I do still play FPSs. Even in games like America's Army, a gazillion times more realistic and tactical game than this will be, strafing and bunnyjumping are a huge problem, completely breaking the suspension of disbelief. I can't even watch something like Counter-Strike anymore without bursting out laughing.

I expect the budget goes well beyond $2 mil (and that is certainly less money than i expect to have as income over my lifetime). Video game budgets blew past that sort of range some time ago. Putting it on the cutting edge console bumps that up even more.

"According to calculations, it may cost up to 200% more to develop games for the PS3 or Xbox 2 than it does for current systems." - Electronic Arts source expressing ‘concern’ about next-gen technology

What engine would that be?

Unreal 3, say the rumors. Certainly the designers only mention standard modding fare in their blog entries.

Might be, but I doubt it's in Halo 2 territory ($20 million).

Well that would be good news of sorts. At least they'll have a professionally built engine underneath.

P.S. I never could stand the feel of Unreal....then I saw a picture of Cliff "Pimp My Cracker Azz" Bleszinski complete with huge gold medalian hanging down from his skinny geek neck and 1/2-way unbuttoned purple skilk shirt displaying a pale, sunstarved chest. At that moment I understood why. But just the engine itself wasn't too bad.