The absence of DNA scanners is at least partially an unfortunate result of the change in the release schedule. Arsenal will contain such forensic devices, we had expected it to be out first. Those who need a rule can use the Diagnostics rules in the Medtech chapter.

"Free" refers to the nuyen cost only.

...cool I can now revive Night Angel.

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...hmmm....Capacity 2...Ares Predators...Cyborg rules...FemBots.

....groooovy baby!

Twenty meters a day... of course, it can be dissolved by an enzyme, so watch out for people having exactly the same idea, but a chemical gland for that enzyme, too...

Keep the excitement - it has only 4 dice for perception tests and will most likely exist as an external device, too.
Of course, the Ultrasound vision modieifers make even less sense here... neither sound nor radar care whether the light is on or off.

ahh ok so what does one use of the capacity of when one implants breasts or penis?

I do believe you have misread that.

Cyber eyes, cyber ears have a capacity rating of x lacking the [ ].

So you think that one can put a pair of breast implants in rating 4 cybereyes? or hair implants? or commlink?

The usage of the capacities with and with out the [ ], needs to be explained in detail.

Or a cyber grenade launcher with an external clip port


If breast implants cost 2 capacity I'm getting 2 installed in my cyberhand

Well assuming that you want a "normal body image" then you would want to install your sexual organs into a cybertorso, although I guess you could install a penis in your cyberskull if you really wanted to as well.

*Shrugs* Let's dig into the books and see who has misread what then.

And if you notice, every last piece of headware uses the [ x ] format to indicate the amount of capacity that it uses.

Notice that in this table, all of the before mentioned subsystems use the [ x ] format to indicate how much capacity they cost, while the listings for cybereyes themselves don't.

Here the same thing holds true as with the cybereyes listings, you know, I think we may be seeing a pattern here.

Hmm, just like headware, everything that has a capacity rating uses the [ x ] format.

Hmm, and just like with eyeware and earware, the actual limbs themselves use the x format to tell us how much capacity they can hold while all of the accessories use the [ x ] format in order to tell us how much capacity they use.

So unless you really think that the devs meant for an implanted grenade launcher to be able to have as much "goodies" installed into it as a full cyberarm then it's clear that you are mistaken when they use the same format in AUG.

I guess you could call that character Breast Hands McGurk?

Those actually add to the capacity of the torso.

"Where did you get that gun?"
"You do NOT want to know."

Thank you.

By the way: Probably Gavin was a character who was played by my friend Krishna. It went kind of like that.

And noone ever asked me to let them play a total amnesiac again.

-Frank

Yours? I read it earlier today and liked it a lot. Like most people here, I think, I'm guilty of opening the book straight at the cyberlimbs and then proceeding through the rest of the crunch. But I'm now starting to digest the fluff and enjoying it.

Symmetry with other forms of Inhabitation.

It is capped well within the range of ItNW that you find on toss-off spirits at that level, so it's unlikely to make a tremendous impact. But it does let them stand there and bounce small arms fire from security guards - which is wicked awesome looking.

-Frank

The "stacking" of hardened armor and regular armor is a bit odd. The key is that they are different tallies and run a separate check. The Hardened Armor looks like this:

1. If the modified DV of the weapon is not larger than the value of the hardened armor (modified by AP), the attack does no damage.
2. If else, add the hardened armor (modified by AP) in as extra Damage Resistance Dice.

And regular armor looks like this:

1. If the modified DV of the weapon is not larger than the value of the normal armor (modified by AP), the attack does stun damage.
2. Regardless, add the normal armor (modified by AP) in as extra Damage Resistance Dice.

So if you have Hardened Armor and Ballistic Armor, you get a big pile of damage resistance dice, the weapon's AP is applied twice, and only things which can penetrate your Hardened Armor can hurt you at all.

As far as I know you simply apply both sets of rules when you have both types of defenses - which actually stacks to a remarkably limited degree.

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Ha ha?

-Frank

Cool. I've been trying to figure out how to use both types of armor at the same time as it comes up a few other times in the game (a materialized ally spirit putting up an armored vest, or a character injecting himself with the Spirit Strength drug). I was leaning towards this interpretation, but it's great to see it addressed by someone else as well.

My other interpretation was a bit more streamlined, though, and I may end up using it anyway if something official doesn't come up. Heck, I'm not even sure if it's different than this, just described differently.

Basically, hardened armor adds to whatever armor you're wearing as normal. The first check is to see if the DV is greater than the hardened armor value. If not, stop there; the attack does no damage. If it is, you then see if it's higher than the hardened armor value + other armor. If not, it's turned to Stun damage. Otherwise, Physical. You then add the total together on the Damage Resistance Test just as if the hardened armor were regular armor.

In other words, the hardened armor is just adding an extra check to see if you get wounded at all and in all other ways works like normal armor.

Great to see the old connections being reinforced.