Re Drain and wound modifiers -- that covers you two; and if it's okay by grendel as well, I'll bite my tongue and make it a consensus. Intense rules discussion averted?
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From me, I think you've got that
Re Drain and wound modifiers -- that covers you two; and if it's okay by grendel as well, I'll bite my tongue and make it a consensus. Intense rules discussion averted?
Re Drain and wound modifiers -- that covers you two; and if it's okay by grendel as well, I'll bite my tongue and make it a consensus. Intense rules discussion averted?
I actually don't mind having a rules discussion, I am just very aware that I tend to rule in favor of things that make the game more lethal. I know that many players do not agree with me in that sense so that I why I voted to leave things as is.
I'm always open to a more gritty system.
Re winterrat. You should be set on me. Also, only an accountant could post like that
I'm always open to a more gritty system.
Re winterrat. You should be set on me. Also, only an accountant could post like that
Flashbacks from guidelines, mark 1 ...
Actually, I've reversed my opinion. I am in the process of writing an email, so it looks like we'll be having a discussion after all. Check the GM mail tonight for further details.
And hey, I'm a highly technical writer (and person) that's what they pay me for, after all, not to make the tax forms feel good and look pretty!
And hey, I'm a highly technical writer (and person) that's what they pay me for, after all, not to make the tax forms feel good and look pretty!
For what it's worth, in this particular case there (probably) won't be any practical difference: -1 modifier regardless, be there two stun squares marked off or one: and even if you enterprise to gain a Moderate stun wound, you'll still be running at -2 either way (3+1 or 3+2 squares).
Of course, that next L stun could be a zinger ...
Of course, that next L stun could be a zinger ...
Karma Awards for my players:
Shev: 3 pts (last award Dec. 21)
Shadowrunner13: 1 pt (first award)
Morgannah: 1 pt (first award)
Shev: 3 pts (last award Dec. 21)
Shadowrunner13: 1 pt (first award)
Morgannah: 1 pt (first award)
| QUOTE (Sedna) |
| (Help -- what's the drain code for conjuring watchers again?) |
Watcher conjuring drain = (Force+lifespan [hours])L
Thanks again, grendel! 
Even if you spend the karma to increase watcher lifespan, would you still have to take drain as though you were conjuring it for at least one hour though? or does the karma completely negate the time modifier? In this case, it makes the difference between taking stun and not.
Recap: Virgil didn't regain any stun in the car, but turns out that Dragon and Sybersnake were arguing for long enough for Virgil to regain his breath fully. So you weren't going into the watcher summoning with stun.
WinterRat
Even if you spend the karma to increase watcher lifespan, would you still have to take drain as though you were conjuring it for at least one hour though? or does the karma completely negate the time modifier? In this case, it makes the difference between taking stun and not.
Recap: Virgil didn't regain any stun in the car, but turns out that Dragon and Sybersnake were arguing for long enough for Virgil to regain his breath fully. So you weren't going into the watcher summoning with stun.
WinterRat
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Karma awards
Sedna- 2+1(GM bonus) =3
Paul- 2
Great job moving the story forward guys.
Sedna- 2+1(GM bonus) =3
Paul- 2
Great job moving the story forward guys.
Belated Sunday Karma:
bandit: 1 +1 (GM bonus) = 2
Sentinel: 1
WinterRat: 2 +1 (GM bonus) = 3
bandit: 1 +1 (GM bonus) = 2
Sentinel: 1
WinterRat: 2 +1 (GM bonus) = 3
I know the post is time-stamped after your most recent post Sedna, but I thought it important to list Virgil's actions as the other three ventured down to the alley. He was going to attempt to get some rest (though we'll see how that works out now).
Stun recovery
Willpower roll: 10 08 05 04 03 02 (5 successes)
If we've worked out the past stun damage issues than Virgil should've one box of stun (though that can be raised if review states otherwise). It will take 12 minutes to recover.
You don't realize how careful you have to be about drain recovery until your in LiTS
Stun recovery
Willpower roll: 10 08 05 04 03 02 (5 successes)
If we've worked out the past stun damage issues than Virgil should've one box of stun (though that can be raised if review states otherwise). It will take 12 minutes to recover.
You don't realize how careful you have to be about drain recovery until your in LiTS
-- figured as much. (Why do I have the sudden impression that in crunch situations, most active magicians are in a constant state of slight to increasing exhaustion?) So I'll let you decide what to do when the scream cuts in ...Mechanics note: there are some things that can be successfully interrupted without losing the benefit of what went before, and some things that can't. I'm temp-ruling that recovering stun is one of the things that can be interrupted -- although of course the box isn't recovered until the full elapsed time. In other words, rest time doesn't have to be continuous.
Sunday karma:
bandit: 1 +1 (GM bonus) = 2
Sentinel: 1
WinterRat: 1 +1 (GM bonus) = 2
(Is there a door or loading dock or such anywhere around? If yes, there would almost have to be an intercom or something attached to it? What would Blaze see?)
bandit: 1 +1 (GM bonus) = 2
Sentinel: 1
WinterRat: 1 +1 (GM bonus) = 2
(Is there a door or loading dock or such anywhere around? If yes, there would almost have to be an intercom or something attached to it? What would Blaze see?)
or a lock, or a camera, any of which will suffice, just some way to let them know we want in to see ... Kore I think it was.
I'm assuming you did take the pistol this time, same as on the first page, but I know you didn't take it for the Salvation run meet. If I'm wrong about this, tell me, and I'll edit.
Oh, and the word is Sperethiel, adapted from the canon root samriel, implying a necessary discomfort.
Oh, and the word is Sperethiel, adapted from the canon root samriel, implying a necessary discomfort.
sorry, He only knows english and Japanese, and only a little of the latter
Karma Awards for my players:
Shev: 1 pt (Jan. 10-17th)
Shadowrunner13: 2 pts (Jan. 10-17th)
Morgannah: 1 pt (Jan. 10-17th)
Shev: 1 pt (Jan. 10-17th)
Shadowrunner13: 2 pts (Jan. 10-17th)
Morgannah: 1 pt (Jan. 10-17th)
... says the player who's just seen Dragon's reaction to an unexpected street kid (gulp!).
Ah well. I've stepped well into it now. Maybe we'll learn something. (Assume we're both observing, but without rubbernecking ) But I'd hate to try breaking into this place, let alone fighting my way into or out of it.
Ah well. I've stepped well into it now. Maybe we'll learn something. (Assume we're both observing, but without rubbernecking
) But I'd hate to try breaking into this place, let alone fighting my way into or out of it.
Karma Awards
Sedna = 2 + 1(GM Bonus) = 3
Paul = 2
Sedna-I edited the last award to reflect your GM bonus if you haven't added it in already yet.
Sedna = 2 + 1(GM Bonus) = 3
Paul = 2
Sedna-I edited the last award to reflect your GM bonus if you haven't added it in already yet.
Is there a keypad involved here? or a slot for a credstick?
There are both (keypad and slot for credstick, both in view of the camera)
I'm going with "legit" impatience, alert senses (after all, she's supposed to be looking for the band), and, oh, very definite purpose -- might take me that Simple Action we talked about to shift out of it (say, if there's an attack), but the search itself won't require me to.
-- said the fly to the spider
-- said the fly to the spider
That's written on the assumption that there's no imminent threat to Blaze from those two, based on their aura and the way they were holding themselves. (Do you need Psych or other rolls?) If there is an imminent, here-and-now threat (and it would still pick up as that, even if they're just waiting for her to get out of the way), well, there'll be a couple of small differences -- the big one being that she wouldn't get in the way of anything Blaze intends to do about it.
After they separate, Alianna's going to go looking for the band -- and she'll get "lost" on the way (guided by ears, nose, and traces of any auras she'd seen back in the apartment).
After they separate, Alianna's going to go looking for the band -- and she'll get "lost" on the way (guided by ears, nose, and traces of any auras she'd seen back in the apartment).
There are no traces if imminent thread to either yourself or Blaze. And btw, those rolls you made for your disguise were nothing short of epic. 
Paul- I'm going to wait for your response before I post anything in regards to either you or Sedna, just fyi, since if you for example decide you want her to come along, that would change my posting as well. So you're up.
Paul- I'm going to wait for your response before I post anything in regards to either you or Sedna, just fyi, since if you for example decide you want her to come along, that would change my posting as well. So you're up.
Shadowrunner13 - give me a perception check before you post about anything at your apartment. And if you're being sneaky on the approach, give me a stealth roll as well.
It was still only worth one success though -- just perhaps edging on the quality aspect
If it's reasonably possible also, during that close encounter, Alleycat's going to try to get Blaze's phone to call hers. That shouldn't make much sound at all (she's had hers set to lowest vibrate-equivalent for some time now), and it will let her overhear what's happening. Blaze's won't show as receiving if she puts hers on the equivalent of "mute". And if we're caught -- well, there was enough body contact to have jogged something "accidentally".
Did anyone else notice the mistake I made wrt Alleycat's assessment, a few posts back? (Blame it on a tired player.)
If it's reasonably possible also, during that close encounter, Alleycat's going to try to get Blaze's phone to call hers. That shouldn't make much sound at all (she's had hers set to lowest vibrate-equivalent for some time now), and it will let her overhear what's happening. Blaze's won't show as receiving if she puts hers on the equivalent of "mute". And if we're caught -- well, there was enough body contact to have jogged something "accidentally".
Did anyone else notice the mistake I made wrt Alleycat's assessment, a few posts back? (Blame it on a tired player.)
What was the mistake Sedna? I certainly missed it. Oh, and can we assume the car is cleaned and we can get a move on? I'm either going to wait on you for an ok to move along and post the car ride, or let you do it for us. Let me know what you're thinking.
ok, and yes I do want Alleycat with me. BLaze isn't going to send her off on her own.
What? You mean to tell me you guys don't want to split up? 
it's always good to have an extra set of eyes, or ears, or an extra tirgger finger, (insert which ever is apropriate)
WinterRat -- consider the post an okay to move on.
I think I'll have to wait to see what's happening wrt Alleycat and NPCs' reactions before I can post further. Right about now Alianna will just be confused ... but that's going to have to change to annoyance real quick.
I think I'll have to wait to see what's happening wrt Alleycat and NPCs' reactions before I can post further. Right about now Alianna will just be confused ... but that's going to have to change to annoyance real quick.
OK my post was based on the assumption you both would follow them to their ultimate destination, not doing something nuts like throw a powerball in the middle of the club. With 3 people, this could create a timing problem, so we'll do this.
Unless anyone says otherwise, my post is the situation as it stands, with both of you in the room with the elf, human, and troll. If either of you wants to do anything at any point in my description prior to that, say it here and post in the IC, and I'll edit my previous post to match and then respond accordingly. Cool?
Unless anyone says otherwise, my post is the situation as it stands, with both of you in the room with the elf, human, and troll. If either of you wants to do anything at any point in my description prior to that, say it here and post in the IC, and I'll edit my previous post to match and then respond accordingly. Cool?
Cool, ditto if I over-walked you by accident, paul -- and I'll try not to interrupt the flow unless it's something critical. Good thing we've already "tested" this kind of situation with Dragon and Virgil
Oh, and anything italic-thought I post here, assume that anyone not Oblivious (or with an Essence below 1 ) has a reasonable chance of "reading" this in her.
Oh, and anything italic-thought I post here, assume that anyone not Oblivious (or with an Essence below 1
) has a reasonable chance of "reading" this in her.
Sedna, Virgil's last post began at 1246 and would not have lasted longer than two minutes, yet your next post with the party entering the car begins at 1330. Is that really supposed to be the time that we arrive at the clinic? Or was a simple error made?
I haven't forgotten your 1500 Inleat meeting (and I'm not trying to throw curves in the way of your making it), but I thought you might want time to move a bit forward, and I was also trying to include all the delays etc from associated things. If you think it's too much, back-time it to what you would consider more appropriate -- I'll edit.
Paul -- just give me a couple of minutes -- got an idea.
Paul -- just give me a couple of minutes -- got an idea.
sure, I gave Blaze's response, but any ideas you have are more than welcome.
Ah, shit. I'm open to ideas how to sort this out.
I'm open to ideas how to sort this out.
well, I can recind my post in the mean time, or, Have him do something different, or I don't know, take your pick.
Do you want to do your speaking up as soon as she pulls out the matches, then? or maybe wait to see if he reacts to them, and then do your post? Because I don't want you to have to rescind it -- it suits your character too much.
He'll speak just after Alleycat pulls out the Matches, it suits the comments about the "half burned pack."
and laughing for real -- we're exactly balancing each other! I'll just add that Alianna will be "startled" to hear what Blaze has to say, but maybe not really "surprised" -- as though she might have been suspecting something of the sort.[add --] She just might drop the matches in reaction.
Why don't you guys just edit so as to flip flop your posts? I got confused reading it and I had to read about 3 times to get the order right. Just delete/edit your post paul and put it right after Sedna's. That should fix the problem, yes?
I'll wait till you guys get things rearranged before posting so I know I read it correctly and respond appropriately, to save us all more confusion.
I'll wait till you guys get things rearranged before posting so I know I read it correctly and respond appropriately, to save us all more confusion.
um, I'm going to make an asensing test. I'm trying to study this guy's aura as to know whether or not he is lying.
Asensing: 11, 10, 08, 04, 03, 03
I htink that should be enough to at least give me a hint as to whether he's speaking the truth or not. and if not, just let me know.
Asensing: 11, 10, 08, 04, 03, 03
I htink that should be enough to at least give me a hint as to whether he's speaking the truth or not. and if not, just let me know.
As far as you can tell Paul, he's telling the truth.
Heh -- I'd been about to ask the same thing only using Psychology, and focusing more not so much on whether he's lying, as on whether there's stuff he's not telling us that he thinks might be related to Blaze's concerns.
Oh -- and how does he react when Alianna assumes aloud that he's the owner? (ie. is he?)
Why not:
Perception: 5, 5, 3, 3, 3, 2, 1, 1
Psych: 10, 4, 4, 4, 3, 3, 3
Aura reading: 2
only using Psychology, and focusing more not so much on whether he's lying, as on whether there's stuff he's not telling us that he thinks might be related to Blaze's concerns.Oh -- and how does he react when Alianna assumes aloud that he's the owner? (ie. is he?)
Why not:
Perception: 5, 5, 3, 3, 3, 2, 1, 1
Psych: 10, 4, 4, 4, 3, 3, 3
Aura reading: 2
He does not react when you bring that up, and he doesn't seem to be lying from your analysis either. Whatever he is, he's certainly extremely composed. You get that much, for sure.
Paul- I'll wait for your agreement/disagreement before posting what happens if you guys go on the dance floor.
yeah, we'll hit the dance floor, or at least Alleycat will, Blaze'll be over by a table, coat still on, fairly obvious for anyone who knows or has even seen him before that he's the same person.
In "Champions" terms, I've just "Presence-Attacked" the nearby dancers
In Shadowrun terms, you said she was popular, WinterRat, so it's not beyond possibility that a couple of the nearby dancers might want to help her out here. She's making it obvious to them that she doesn't want the ork's attention -- small things, like lightly flinching away from his touch -- and that she'd appreciate the help. Since I'm only "targeting" those nearby, the crowd itself should conceal those specifics from Blaze -- shall we say that I'm nervous about what Blaze might consider an appropriate level of force?
With luck, they'll help her deal with it quickly and relatively quietly.
(And I'm still hoping someone wanted to draw him here -- I'm giving it an hour, which should correspond to the end of the set, more or less. Then I've got to go be groupie for another 15 or so.)
In Shadowrun terms, you said she was popular, WinterRat, so it's not beyond possibility that a couple of the nearby dancers might want to help her out here. She's making it obvious to them that she doesn't want the ork's attention -- small things, like lightly flinching away from his touch -- and that she'd appreciate the help. Since I'm only "targeting" those nearby, the crowd itself should conceal those specifics from Blaze -- shall we say that I'm nervous about what Blaze might consider an appropriate level of force?
With luck, they'll help her deal with it quickly and relatively quietly.
(And I'm still hoping someone wanted to draw him here -- I'm giving it an hour, which should correspond to the end of the set, more or less. Then I've got to go be groupie for another 15 or so.)
Blaze has a decent level of control, and If he were to go "postal" It would end up with Alleycat out of it as well (got to love AOE spells). Anyway, He's got enough self control to trust her to take care of herself, unless the ork does anything partucularly stupid.
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