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I just got the pdf and made my first character, a guy that grew up on the scumbarges, is an anarchocapitalist criminal with a rather customized ghost morph. I have to say I've never picked up a game and had so much fun just building a character!
Now that's a high compliment! 
QUOTE (Sixgun_Sage @ Jun 13 2010, 12:15 PM) 
I just got the pdf and made my first character, a guy that grew up on the scumbarges, is an anarchocapitalist criminal with a rather customized ghost morph. I have to say I've never picked up a game and had so much fun just building a character!
Agreed!
There's a thread over on RPG.Net where people are posting characters and I added my first character over there. Dhiraj Visvakarahn, Lunar underworld assassin and survivor from New Mumbai. I'm working on my second character now: Virgil, a re-instantiated trauma psychosurgeon resleeved by the Titanian Commonwealth.
Agreed. I made like a dozen characters the first week I found out about the game. Now to find a PBP....
My wife and I have been doing a freeform game for... about five years now (about 4-8 hours a day, started in 1890. I mean, game time, 1890.)
Funny thing is, early last year, we made it to 2050, Mars, where the character was uploaded to a computer.
Now she's insisting we use the 'uploaded character', advance the timeline, and play an EP setting.
Give me another few months and I'll have played more Eclipse Phase than the designers
Funny thing is, early last year, we made it to 2050, Mars, where the character was uploaded to a computer.
Now she's insisting we use the 'uploaded character', advance the timeline, and play an EP setting.
Give me another few months and I'll have played more Eclipse Phase than the designers
A peek at Sunward: http://twitpic.com/1wsh7a/full
Any ETA?
When we have a street date, we'll announce it. 
You tease!
WANT! Seriously though, the book art fo Eclipse Phase is incredible, and the actual content of the game info is great!
QUOTE (Adam @ Jun 15 2010, 07:05 PM)
When we have a street date, we'll announce it.
Expected no other answer.
Here's the latest update on the shipping of the core rulebook reprint: http://www.eclipsephase.com/eclipse-phase-reprint-shipping
Hi Adam
Couple Questions
1. Why so many skills? I mean most of the system is fairly simple but there are a lot of skills and big numbers (like the attributes) that may turn off people who were actually looking for something simple. I love the mesh rules btw.
2. Is there anything you feel is needed from the fan community, ie character builder, adventures? I really would like to throw out some free stuff, I'm just not sure what to work on first.
Couple Questions
1. Why so many skills? I mean most of the system is fairly simple but there are a lot of skills and big numbers (like the attributes) that may turn off people who were actually looking for something simple. I love the mesh rules btw.
2. Is there anything you feel is needed from the fan community, ie character builder, adventures? I really would like to throw out some free stuff, I'm just not sure what to work on first.
1. I've pointed Rob towards this thread, but he's super-busy with Sunward right now.
2. I'm going to try spinning this into a longer blog post. I really don't like the idea of saying "I want fans to write more adventures/gear/NPCs" because I want to see what fans think is useful -- that helps guide us, points out the strengths/weaknesses of the game, etc.
2. I'm going to try spinning this into a longer blog post. I really don't like the idea of saying "I want fans to write more adventures/gear/NPCs" because I want to see what fans think is useful -- that helps guide us, points out the strengths/weaknesses of the game, etc.
QUOTE (Adam @ May 7 2010, 03:33 PM)
Yes. Most books and other design documents are produced using layers -- one for the background, one for text, one for art, etc. The new PDFs preserve those layers so the user can choose which ones to hide and which to display, which can speed up browsing, printing, use less ink, etc.
That sounds fantastic. Looking forward to seeing how that works out.
Well, go grab the current version of the PDF, then!
QUOTE (Adam @ Jun 19 2010, 01:06 AM)
Here's the latest update on the shipping of the core rulebook reprint: http://www.eclipsephase.com/eclipse-phase-reprint-shipping
Ah. Nothing warms the heart of a collector more than to know that he has the first printing of a book (or a vinyl).
Just downloaded the PDF and read "Lack." Amazing--the first piece of game fiction that made me immediately want to play a game. I can tell the rest of this is going to be fantastic.
EDIT: I generally refuse to get PDFs as I dislike reading pages upon pages of text on a screen. But so far I have not been able to -stop- reading this. Can't wait to get some extra cash so I can afford the book(s)...
EDIT: I generally refuse to get PDFs as I dislike reading pages upon pages of text on a screen. But so far I have not been able to -stop- reading this. Can't wait to get some extra cash so I can afford the book(s)...
I've been foaming at the mouth to get the print versions of the GM Screen and Sunward. I like PDFs for the ability to search through quickly but I like to have stuff to hold in my hand as well.
QUOTE (Abschalten @ Jun 19 2010, 09:23 PM)
I've been foaming at the mouth to get the print versions of the GM Screen and Sunward. I like PDFs for the ability to search through quickly but I like to have stuff to hold in my hand as well.
Me too. I need to get my hands on a print copy of the core book. The PDF is great, but I like to be able to hold something in my hands when I'm flipping back and forth in a book.
Also, EP really needs a forum like Dumpshock. There's not enough action on the official EP forums to distract me like this forum does and for some reason, I find the EP forums clumsy to navigate in.
I can agree to that. I suspect Posthuman wouldn't complain about a fan-made site. The question is, how to start.
Would it be possible to fork Redjack?
Would it be possible to fork Redjack?
We're looking at some changes to the EP forums as we make some other site changes over the next few months.
And of course, we have no objections to fan-made *anything*
And of course, we have no objections to fan-made *anything*
QUOTE (Adam @ Jun 19 2010, 12:10 AM)
1. I've pointed Rob towards this thread, but he's super-busy with Sunward right now.
2. I'm going to try spinning this into a longer blog post. I really don't like the idea of saying "I want fans to write more adventures/gear/NPCs" because I want to see what fans think is useful -- that helps guide us, points out the strengths/weaknesses of the game, etc.
2. I'm going to try spinning this into a longer blog post. I really don't like the idea of saying "I want fans to write more adventures/gear/NPCs" because I want to see what fans think is useful -- that helps guide us, points out the strengths/weaknesses of the game, etc.
Awesome, thanks on both!
Been waiting forever to get a hardcopy. I'm in the camp that needs a hardcopy to lug around. It's great searching a pdf but I like sit around a table and fight over who get's the book next.
You can avoid that fight by buying multiple copies. Gaming is better when everyone has the core book. 
Looking forward to the re-release. I wasn't able to grab a copy over here before they was out. Or rather make that, I didn't know I wanted the book early enough.
We appear to be back in stock on Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/epamazon
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Interesting...
Does anyone have any experience with the pre-generated EP characters from the core book? I'm thinking about running an introductory adventure on a convention in a couple weeks, and for all it's awesomeness, I think the character creation is a little bit too complex to be handled in such a limited time for a group of complete EP newbies.
QUOTE (Delta @ Jun 22 2010, 04:35 AM)
Does anyone have any experience with the pre-generated EP characters from the core book? I'm thinking about running an introductory adventure on a convention in a couple weeks, and for all it's awesomeness, I think the character creation is a little bit too complex to be handled in such a limited time for a group of complete EP newbies.
I don't personally have any experience using them, but they seem pretty solid. In an earlier post of mine, I linked to a character I made, which was posted on an rpg.net thread full of characters people made. So you could always use those too.
Delta, there are some characters in the Quick Start Rules as well: http://eclipsephase.com/eclipse-phase-quick-start-rules
Sooo, things seem to be going well enough that we're up as high as #6 on the Gaming books chart, and Amazon is down to 5 copies in their warehouse, with more on the way, of course. Quite a day!
I played the Quick Start game. I offered my players to make their own or use the Quick Start premades. 2 Players ended up using the premades, and they were just fine for the adventure. And, in hindsights, having playing the entire QS mission, I can say using only the premades would have been just fine.
QUOTE (Adam @ Jun 22 2010, 04:55 PM)
Sooo, things seem to be going well enough that we're up as high as #6 on the Gaming books chart, and Amazon is down to 5 copies in their warehouse, with more on the way, of course. Quite a day!
Awesome! And only two left in stock now.
Thanks a lot, so I guess I'll give "Mind the WMDs" a try with the premade characters
Premade characters are really good idea for convention gaming - chargen just takes too long with players new to the system.
And QSR adventure is REALLY good introduction for EP and much fun (players' faces when I gave them 2nd versions of character sheets... just priceless. "Man, now you are a tachikoma!"
).
And QSR adventure is REALLY good introduction for EP and much fun (players' faces when I gave them 2nd versions of character sheets... just priceless. "Man, now you are a tachikoma!"
).
I modified the QSR for use with my (very small) gaming group. I found parts of the adventure to be rather railroady, as if they WANTED you to die. I understand that furthers the vibe of the game, especially with new players, but I never set out to ensure my players die under any circumstances. I also let the players use their own characters instead of forcing them to use premades, and I fleshed out a few parts (let them roleplay on the Scum barge, among other things.)
Example:
Example:
[ Spoiler ]
Introductory scenarios should demo the key concepts of a game. Resleeving is a key concept.
Please write up and post the changes/additions you made here, or to the EP forums!
Please write up and post the changes/additions you made here, or to the EP forums!
QUOTE (Adam @ Jun 21 2010, 11:16 PM)
We appear to be back in stock on Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/epamazon
Any chance some ex finding their way to Europe? I usually buy my games at a local shop (gotta support local gaming shops), but if its unlikely to get any wider distribution at the moment, I might try and order from Amazon.com in USA.
There are copies on the way to European distributors. Please give your local shop a call/email/facebook message/whatever you do to contact them and let them know you want one!
QUOTE (Adam @ Jun 23 2010, 05:26 PM)
Introductory scenarios should demo the key concepts of a game. Resleeving is a key concept.
I agree with that, and I totally see the design behind the pre-gens and the way the adventure is laid out. However, I wanted to kick off a campaign for my players with characters they created, and felt like while the QSR adventure was a good outline for an initial adventure, it needed some work.
QUOTE (Adam)
Please write up and post the changes/additions you made here, or to the EP forums!
I'm not sure that anything I changed could be applied widely to everyone's game. I let them roleplay being on the Scum barge for a bit, having given them both RP reasons why they are there (one was hustling and doing some business with some smugglers to get some illegal cargo down to Elysium, the other had just arrived while escaping from the Jovians.) I let them roleplay some stuff and interact with people, let them make some rolls of various tests to get them used to the base mechanics.
I didn't force them to die, but neither did I fudge the rolls. I followed the module fairly closely in most regards, except I didn't accept that they would necessarily make choices causing them to die. There were only two players, but they made good choices and had no need to resleeve at all during the entire Quick-start campaign.
[ Spoiler ]
Basically I felt like the QSR didn't have enough content, so I added some stuff based on what I liked and felt was appropriate from the core book, which I thought was a tremendous help to me. I used the core rules instead of some of the "streamlined" rules in the QSR regarding reputation/favors and damage value modification. I also modified the adventure to allow for my characters to feel part of Eclipse Phase's rich universe, as opposed to forcing them to play pregens they had no attachment to.
Adam, had you seen these guys in action you would've been proud. I haven't listed all they did in our two sessions here, but suffice it to say I had as much fun GMing the game for them as they did playing. I'm looking forward to getting Glory and running it for them.
something i've been thinking about while brainstorming for an ep game, and i figured here is as good a place as any to pose the question to the very intelligent guys and gals of dumpshock to see what ya'll think - what exactly does joe bloggs do in the universe of eclipse phase? put another way, what's the most common profession for your average, somewhat educated, middle class person? in shadowrun, we have joe bloggs the wage slave, who earns his keep by working for the megacorporations, probably in an office, a cog in the great machine of free market capitalism. in ep, hypercorps no longer need physical worker bees, with most of their daily administrative tasks delegated to infomorphs and weak AIs. does joe bloggs even need to work at all, especially if he lives in an outer system habitat with a post-scarcity economy? i imagine the 40 hour work week no longer exists, and while everyone will have to pitch in with some communal work, such as habitat maintenance and the like, for the most part, leisure time makes up a large part of a person's day. there are probably a lot more people indulging in creative pursuits, since they don't need to worry about maintaining a steady income, and it allows them to contribute meaningfully to society in a stimulating, enjoyable way. no doubt there will be lazy people who just do the bare minimum that they can to get by, but they'll probably be looked down upon by society much like how "leechers" who only download and never upload anything are stigmatized in today's peer-to-peer sharing networks.
thoughts/comments/insights?
thoughts/comments/insights?
Really depends on where. Most people live in the inner system, which isn't all that different from a modern setting. In many locations, people still use money, so still need jobs, and so on. The cost for food and power has dropped dramatically (and are oftentimes free), but the cost for housing and a body have risen, so once you get over that hurdle of getting a house and a morph, Joe Inner System just needs to secure any sort of job and he'll make enough to keep himself fed and happy. I expect that, with the exception of the Junta, work days for the average person have dropped considerably. With much of the manufacturing and service industries gone, there just isn't as much to do. Big jobs are surveying, mining, repairing/technical work, shipping and designing.
In the outer system it works more on the idea of social responsibility, but it still works out similarly. In many places, the society seems to feel obliged to provide you a body, a place to stow it, and food, so you could indeed be a slug if you wanted. However, people get belligerent when they feel like their neighbors are taking advantage of them, and understandably so. So a character who refuses to do any more work than walk to the food dispenser is probably going to find himself getting a cold shoulder sooner or later - and unlike a cash economy, that sort of thing is harder to correct.
I expect in anarchist societies, all time is 'leisure time' in that you choose the work you do, so many more people will be finding themselves doing jobs they love because of the lack of economic pressures.
In the outer system it works more on the idea of social responsibility, but it still works out similarly. In many places, the society seems to feel obliged to provide you a body, a place to stow it, and food, so you could indeed be a slug if you wanted. However, people get belligerent when they feel like their neighbors are taking advantage of them, and understandably so. So a character who refuses to do any more work than walk to the food dispenser is probably going to find himself getting a cold shoulder sooner or later - and unlike a cash economy, that sort of thing is harder to correct.
I expect in anarchist societies, all time is 'leisure time' in that you choose the work you do, so many more people will be finding themselves doing jobs they love because of the lack of economic pressures.
Question on the Watts Macleod Virus
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Origins Award, best RPG of the Year, Eclipse Phase: http://www.eclipsephase.com/eclipse-phase-...-award-best-rpg
Yay!
Sweet, Adam! Well deserved, I would say.
Bye
Thanee
Bye
Thanee
Congratulations!
I gonna go talk with the store so they take notice that they are missing a Origins Awarded game in their inventory. And get myself a copy.
I gonna go talk with the store so they take notice that they are missing a Origins Awarded game in their inventory. And get myself a copy.
QUOTE (Adam @ Jun 15 2010, 03:41 PM)
A peek at Sunward: http://twitpic.com/1wsh7a/full
Any chance that it will be released as a free PDF too?
Just wanted to say...
I had seen this book around, and I believe I quickly flipped through it once at one of my local stores.... but nothing really pulled me into it.
However, I was bored and saw this thread.... and decided to check out the PDF. Just skimmed it already, but I'm actually loving it so far!
Thanks for posting this! I probably would have never given this game a chance if not for this thead.
I had seen this book around, and I believe I quickly flipped through it once at one of my local stores.... but nothing really pulled me into it.
However, I was bored and saw this thread.... and decided to check out the PDF. Just skimmed it already, but I'm actually loving it so far!
Thanks for posting this! I probably would have never given this game a chance if not for this thead.
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