we do intend to do legwork missions - there is some info over at our own forum in the FAQ on that

Just announced on their Facebook page, now on the team for Shadowrun Online: Tom Dowd!

What do you ney-sayers say now???

Trixie says neigh.

Nay-sayers will nay-say unto the ends of the earth, because they have already made up their minds. There is a particular psychology in terms of these gamers. I forget the term, but they make up their mind, and cannot be convinced to say positive things about the game. Interestingly, there is an extremely high crossover with people who will buy the game when it's released. It's fairly well documented, but I can't remember WHERE I put the documents.

This image should illustrate the problem, however. Or at least be funny: Modern Warfare 2 Boycott

I'm currently reading Neal Stephenson's Reamde, and all I can say is "I want a Shadowrun MMO so I can enter a virtual world inside my virtual world."

We need to go deeper.
Make it a BTL-Chip in the first place.
And an Ultra Violet Host in the last place!
General Matrix-Exception!

Checking out the Jagged Alliance MMO. So far, it's interesting. Seems very different. Too bad they remembered Ira.

And her horrible voice acting. < Deadpan >"She is evil. A driven bitch."< /Deadpan >

i will just be leaving this here then:
http://www.cliffhanger-productions.com/scr...msg1359#msg1359

Coming from Primetide himself.

You know what would be complete insanity?
If the game was set in LA and every character had a Persona 2.0 page. Imagine posting screenshots from runs IN CHARACTER. Mind = blown.

Go to their forum.
Tell them that idea.
Watch Primetide think about it . .

I will beat people over P2.0.

One of the oldest truths of the Internet:
First Person to invent a Way to punch other People trough the Internet will be the richest Person in the world.

http://www.cliffhanger-productions.com/scr...msg1363#msg1363
See?
I TOLD you so!

Heh heh. Sorry, but I just couldn't get myself to register on another forum just to drop one good idea. That and SR4's Los Angeles has a pretty varied environment, you got skyscrapers, industrial areas, sprawl, barrens (South Central, the flood zone in general and then San Bernardino), labs, hell, you could even turn at least a couple of sunken buildings into toxic spirit dens. Oh, and Shedim.

OH MY GAWD!

YES!

So we're literally going to be building our own friends?

...

I like it! Where's my lightning rod and REALLY BIG KNIFE SWITCH?

*grmbl*
i hate havong to do writeups of my contacts <.<

Heads up people:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/196435...hadowrun-online
For those who don't like paypal or like Kickstarter better or did not know it yet.
http://www.shadowrun.com/forums/topic/kick...er-question-sro

Watch the MMO be a mildly updated carbon copy of the 360 game.

"LOL THIS IS WHAT YA'LL WERE TALKING ABOUT, RITE?! "

Do try and keep up ith reality
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/196435...hadowrun-online

Oh, you know I was just playing.

This is innernets.
Better make sure.

They still need 200k and it's slowly going up, but they only have 3 days left.

This is gonna suck if they don't get the funding. Everyone chipped in for SRReturns, I think that tapped the market.

Probably also less name recognition. SRR has shown themselves able to make Shadowrun games before. SRO is new to that. Also less nostalgia factor, which has probably been a factor in other large kickstarter-funded games.

sadly, true . .

I think it being towards the end of summer -- so the hardcore con-going geeks are tapped out because of GenCon and Dragon*Con being around the corner, or already spent for Origins, and the not-so-hardcore-geeks are often still tapped out because summertime's the traditional season for other expensive vacations -- plays a large part, too. Plus general Kickstarter fatigue.

I just wish they hadn't set the bar so danged high. $500k is a lot of money to raise in a month, no matter how successful other projects have been! I hope they can scrape the cash together in the next day or two, 'cause SRO looks like a heck of a game.

*Shows manly tears*

*nods*
if Mr. Weisman were donate a part of the SR:R Surplus Money, it'd be taken care of lickety split . .
but maybe, going to him as an investor would be a smooth move too, seeing how he is unlikely to want too drastic changes . .

i also notice that somehow neither CGL nor HBS kickstarter accounts have been seen donating money to SR:O yet.

Also there was just the fact that SRR's presentation and advertising was a lot slicker from jump. I mean saying SRR succeeded due to nostalgia factor undermines the fact that they just ran a better campaign and they were in place first.

Plus who doesn't enjoy seeing the project manager for SR:360 pelted with stuff.

I know I kept demanding more.

Might be the reason he has a DocWagon card now.

And they made it! Right down to the wire, though

Actually, there are still 2 hours left and they are now at $527,803

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/196435...ne/posts/394833
THIS!
IS!
GUNPORN!


*fap fap fap*!

^^^ Yeah, that. ^^^

*fap fap fap*!!

Eh, do they get money from another source aswell?

MMOs are notoriously expensive to create and maintain...

PayPal Donations right now i think.
And there will be a Version sold on shelves in Stores too, if i remember correctly . .
And then there's the big no no boogeyman of microtransaction free to play game . .

MMO's tend to have budgets in the tens of millions though... I mean it bankrupted Amalur.

who/what?

That original IP RPG the other year funded by some old baseball(?) player and had Todd McFarlane (the creator of spawn) work of the artistic design.
They were planning an MMO but went bankrupt along the way despite good sales.

ah . .
bigger franchises have tanked in terms of MMOs
Conan for example and WH40K . .

Yeah but that was more because of design rather then funding

Well with Conan an WH:F (whatever it was called)
Dark millenia got the axe because THQ was in the gutter, RIP

Here's a bit of an update on Shadowrun Returns...joint CGL/HBS announcement.

*does his best not to jump up and down for joy*

The only names in there i like to read are Jordan Weisman, Tom Dowd and Michael Stackpole . .
Wish the others had nothing to do with this at all <.<

Thanks.

?

As someone on that list but who isn't Weisman, Stackpole, or Dowd, it's really heartening to read that sort of thing.

Ah you are there too? O.o
forgive me, i am notoriously bad with names <.<;,
ok, so the only people i really want out of there are Bills, Coleman and Hardy . . .
i haven't read a single bad thing about way of the adept yet, so you can't be bad.
and i have no idea who the woman is.

Heheh, just giving you shit, man. I know now everyone keeps usernames/real names straight, etc, etc.

let me give you en example:
half of my buddies, whom i know by now since about 10 years ago, still call me by my online handle . .
i know the names of 6 people in the corporation i have been working with for more than 5.5 years now.
i am THAT BAD with names . . and multiple names per person make this even worse <.<