I would think the employees would sign some kind of long standing contract stating their willingness to certain acts. Something like a 5-year contract with a no anal clause.

For the legal parlors. Or, hell, even the illegal ones would have the paperwork, even if the person didn't sign it. It's not like they can complain after the surgery...

Oh great... Lawyers.

A lot of issues are not really touched, but they are out there.

And the first thing they will have to deal with is trust issues. Not being able to trust yourself leads to major issues trusting others.

It also leads to building of walls between yourself and others, because not only can you not trust them to a point you don't trust yourself not to do something wrong that you will not remember

In a way the data filter is one of the most evil items out there to implant in someone, you take away their ability to trust themselves and others as well as set up situations where paranoia can set in hard as they know folks smiling at them know things they can't remember. Or they wonder why people look at them with disgust or fear. When you can't remember being a monster it's very hard on someone, you might remember a trigger but nothing till you are standing there with someone talking to you soothingly while holding a gun with white knuckles telling you it's okay you can relax it's over.

It's one of the implants that should be forbidden or a lot more restricted than it is really. Especially since it can be hooked up and paired with a personafix/skill cluster and turn someone into a monster/joy toy with a push of a button.

"Work hard enough to not get fired and pay enough so they don't quit" seems to no longer apply in SR.

Mr. Eaton was said to have mentioned something like enjoying the Great Depression, as he could get his workers to work as hard as possible, as there were ten people waiting for their jobs if they didn't work hard enough.

"Do a job for a nickel what a (black person) does for a dime and a white man used to get a quarter for." -The Butcher

Is that word such a pariah now, that even in a quote it has to be euphemized?

Is that word such a pariah now, that even in a quote it has to be euphemized?

Whenever you think it safe you will find that one person who is offended.

Here's a good question for the legality of the thing... Is a Bunraku Parlor "John" guilty of statutory rape?

To be honest, I'd just sort of assumed bunraku parlors were illegal, full stop, but it occurs to me they needn't be, depending on one's vision of the setting.

The catch is the personafix

The legal ones would have to be lacking the BTL chip/software so the person would have to be a willing participant understanding they will not remember anything about what happens

Mr. Eaton was said to have mentioned something like enjoying the Great Depression, as he could get his workers to work as hard as possible, as there were ten people waiting for their jobs if they didn't work hard enough.

If you agree to have the the personafix why would that be illegal?

Actually, it'd likely be kept illegal so that the price can be jacked up for the "Sleaze" factor and "Danger", giving the gangs control of it and not having to muscle out legitimate competition.

I don't think gangs would do something like that. MAYBE the gangs that border on syndicates.

Actually, it'd likely be kept illegal so that the price can be jacked up for the "Sleaze" factor and "Danger", giving the gangs control of it and not having to muscle out legitimate competition.

Umm, IRL gangs just kidnap kids and young women, gang rape them for a week, addict them to drugs, terrify the hell out of them and put them to work, beating the crap out of them if they don't make enough money, plus occasionally murdering one to keep the rest in line. It's much more cost effective approach. No fancy electronics needed.

I don't think gangs would do something like that. MAYBE the gangs that border on syndicates. But I think most would still to plain old prostitution. Maybe not even "plain old". "Hey buddy, you look like a guy who would appreciate some good centaur lovin'."

Sounds like present day work environment in various "low cost" places around the globe...

Umm, IRL gangs just kidnap kids and young women, gang rape them for a week, addict them to drugs, terrify the hell out of them and put them to work, beating the crap out of them if they don't make enough money, plus occasionally murdering one to keep the rest in line. It's much more cost effective approach. No fancy electronics needed.

I think there should be different words to separate gangs who just like to run drugs and hurt people (Bloods) and those that will carve up a man infront of his brothers to send a messages (MS13).

I think there should be different words to separate gangs who just like to run drugs and hurt people (Bloods) and those that will carve up a man infront of his brothers to send a messages (MS13).

I'm not sure that difference exists. Does it really?

I'm not sure that difference exists. Does it really?

I believe so. From the people I've known it always seemed a difference between acts of "necessity" and ones of desire.

slowly kill a person to death in front of their tied-up and helpless family to send a message. Especially if they then move onto the family and kill all of them the same way. Yes, even the one in the crib.

Well, sending a message is a "necessity" to people in that life.

Traditionally it's done in the reverse order.

Agreed. The difference comes from a grunt being ordered to do it or one going "I got this! Man, I been waiting to test out my new machete ALL DAY!"

Agreed. The difference comes from a grunt being ordered to do it or one going "I got this! Man, I been waiting to test out my new machete ALL DAY!"

I believe so. From the people I've known it always seemed a difference between acts of "necessity" and ones of desire.

The problem is that morality and ethics are not universal even within the same culture.

The problem is that morality and ethics are not universal even within the same culture.

What I'd do and what some other Ontarian living in Manitoba would do in the same situation could be two vastly different things.

I believe so. From the people I've known it always seemed a difference between acts of "necessity" and ones of desire.

Does anybody really live in Manitoba?

Well, let's take it away from crime to give a different light to it. "Occupy that town, soldier" versus "Take the village! TAKE THE WHOLE F*CKING VILLAGE!" Two commanders with the same goal but different drives.

I disagree with that. But I think there is no use to go into details here. Lets just but it like that, that this is not the modern view on that topic. (For example human rights are seen as law, which applys to everyone and everywhere...)

Platoon.

If you found your sister had been raped, would the person you'd want to kill be your sister or the rapist?

In a not insignificant part of the world you would feel it was essential to kill your sister to restore the family honor.

If you found your sister had been raped, would the person you'd want to kill be your sister or the rapist?

In a not insignificant part of the world you would feel it was essential to kill your sister to restore the family honor.

If you found your sister had been raped, would the person you'd want to kill be your sister or the rapist?

In a not insignificant part of the world you would feel it was essential to kill your sister to restore the family honor.