Save towards the jenner
But that's just personal preference, I hate the Commando

Being the cynic that i am, i suspect blatant cash grab . . .
And to generally slow down progression through the tiers.
Remember, canonically in the Assault-Mech-Class a SINGLE WEAPON can cost more than an entire light and even the occassional medium Mech . .

I'll keep driving the starter Awesome until I can get a decent medium or heavy.

My pilot name is Hakkonen, if any of you care to look me up, or if we do get a Dumpshock merc unit off the ground.

So, i got a Beta Invite for Mechwarrior Tactics . . anybody else here get in?

Ya. So far I am not enthused by gameplay. The little cinematics are cool though, WHEN the camera works.

I dont know why game designers cant just port tabletop rulesets into a video game. *looks at Megamek lovingly*

W3rd. Stick a good-looking engine on top of MegaMek, and there's your product. XCOM proved turn-based tactical games can be done right, and can be successful.

What sort of offering did you have to give them? I've been begging for one since the aborted attempt to give them out at Gencon.

And yet, in-setting? Battlemechs come with a compressed, 360-degree visual display. That is to say, they don't HAVE blind spots to hide in. They have areas their weapons might not all reach into, they might even have "firepower shadows" where NONE of their weapons reach ... but they don't have blind spots.

Heck, the two Medium Lasers in most Atlas chassis' torsoes? Are supposed to point backwards, precisely for dealing with pesky Lights like your Jenner.

Then again, I think letting players aim, and making it pure-twitch, is a huge mistake. They really should have included inaccuracy in their weapons, including "where on the target do you actually HIT".

none at all . .
seems my name is good enough in the battletech world for this kind of stuff to happen to me O.o

also:
don't worry, you are, in my opinion, not missing all that much yet . . can't figure half of it out yet and the other half does not work as well as intended . .
and if they get rid of these problems, then it's still basically just megamek with a bit nicer graphics and animated movement and combat . .

Just aim for the legs.

Legging is heavyly frowned upon.
Trolling Par Excellance . .

That having been said:
DOO EET!

It's also not really useful, most of the time. Legs are almost as well armored as CT, usually.

Not in first gen mechs, lots of even the heavies have paper thin legs. Take a look at the Marauder, Warhammer, and Rifleman as quick examples off the top of my head. Sure, you could just park them behind level 1 terrain, but the shots at you are on the punch location table... (I think they fixed that in a later supplement so that it was a full body shot and legs meant you hit cover)

yep, that's the exact fix.
aside from kicks while the other one is on level 1 next to you, then he kicks on the punch table . .

and even today the legs usually only have as much armor as the side torsos and the ct still has more.

Well here's my experience so far.... even a fully upgraded Jenner-F (2ML, 4SL, 11 DHS, AMS), and nearly max FF armor and endosteel doesn't quite cut it. Really, run plus SL's only slowly overheats. Laser damage is pathetic... even when you get right behind a big mech and keep working over his CT rear.


I suspect part of the problem is the jenners silhouette. The CT/cockpit are really large... compared to mechs like the Raven. And I went with the F from boardgame experience... here 2 missiles are your best friend though and they do a lot of damage for the heat. Looking at the heat it's no wonder why... DHS are gimped (only about 40% increase in effectiveness over base), and energy weapons are screwed over... (small laser 2 heat, 3 damage. med laser 4 heat, 5 damage. When in board game SL is only 1 heat and medlaser only 3.

Any kind of long range beam is similarly a lousy deal in a field dominated by LRM boats.

I don't think I'll stick with this. The game mechanics are pretty poor and unrewarding to any attempts at skill over brute size advantage. Example... scouts might actually work as scouts if their sensor profiles were far reduced in range. Instead you can lock them at the same distances as everything else.

I had no problems so far to kill assaults with a Jenner or a Raven. I just prefer the Raven as it doesn't look like crap *g*
Best game I had was in a 6 Small Laser Jenner, killing 6 of the enemy team with constant papercutting
I highly recommend AMS, though, and to keep moving, then LRMs can barely hurt you at all. DHS are atm a bit crappy, but that's not working as intended.

DHS are not working right now.
They show up as DHS in both crits and weight and price and in the heat efficiency scale, but they only work as good as single heat sinks . .

Not entirely correct. The DHS you install work just fine. Only the ones that are included with the engine are working as single. Still, sucks a lot, to pay 1,5m for this crap only to realize that they don't work as good as they should

and now they are nerfing DHS to 1.4 HS it seems . .

SMALL lasers are, and always have been, pathetic. At least use Small PULSE lasers.


No, that's not the DHS problem. DHS that you place yourself are 200% as effective as SHS.

The problem is, the heat sinks that come with your engine are all Singles, no matter what. And last I heard, PGI seemed to like it that way.


All hail PGI's "rebalancing". Hence, in part, why I got my $60 Elite Founders' Pack refunded.

Oh, and did you know? Maximum range isn't, for non-Missiles. Max range is just how far a weapon deals it's normal damage to; damage falls off at up to 2x or 3x that range. Including Gauss Rifles. Hence, the plethora of "GaussKitty" CPLT-K2 builds out there.

Oh, and Streak SRMs used to (maybe still do?) hit only the CT, no matter what. Hence the proliferation of "StreakKitties".






.... boy am I really REALLY glad I got that refund, now!!

No there was a thread i was reading on MWO. They took the free HS's from the engine into account as well. Which makes me wonder if they allow you to put the first Rating/25 HS's in the engine instead of eating up crit space.

But anyhow... the first 10 hs's are doubled as well. But the doubling is only 40% for all.

As far as SPL's go Pax... haven't tried them yet. But SPL's in BT are twice the weight for the same range and damage and heat. So I'm not sure why you recommend them.

Yes, they do. If you have a R275 or higher engine, the Engine section of yoru Mech shows a space you can put one or more heat sinks into.

Also, if you have a R245 or lower engine, they force you to place heat sinks on the crit map, outside the engine, until you have at least 10 in total.

Both fo those are exactly as per TT rules.


No, they're not. I don't know if the Closed Beta threads still exist, but a developer admitted that any of those first 10 that are in-engine, were only performing as Singles. And then went on to say "we may keep it that way".


Pulse Lasers in MWO have a different cycle time than non-pulse. Getting all your damage on-target just felt easier to me.

Of course, going with MedLasers would also be an option.

Don't waste tonnage on Machineguns, though. Even though they should be as good as Small Lasers, they ... well, in MWO, they absolutely suck.; they do 1/10 their TT damage. Seriously.

First of all, let me say that Small Lasers atm have the best damage to tonnage to heat ratio of all weapons in game. They are not terrible

2nd, before wild speculation abounds:

EHS = Engine Heat Sinks, of course

3rd:

Meaning: It's still a beta, they need to fiddle with the numbers.

Just had a BLAST playing tonight. Died a couple times, but won probably 80% of the games that I played in. The secret? Public Teamspeak server. Playing with a group with voice chat makes this SOOO much more fun and easy to coordinate. We played normal (2 scout, 2 trial Awesomes and the rest mixed, maybe one more LRM boat) for an hour or two, and then swapped to wolf pack tactics (5 scouts, a gauss Hunchback and two streak-Cats). Was a lot of fun, and where we picked up most of our losses since if we didn't coordinate perfectly, we got chopped up. Even with those losses, the games were usually close and the other side was limping their way to victory.

Long story short, download team speak, connect to na1.mech-connect.net pw: WordofBlake, and get with a group of folks that actually use tactics. Makes the game so much better.

This is entirely true
Communication = win, in 80% of all cases
It's just so convenient to call over my Raven buddy to guard my back when sitting in an Assault mech

I think they will be readjusting that again so it's a bit less costly. Or at lest that was their saying on the forums.

I'd love to have a Dumpshock group to chat with while gaming...

Add me as a friend and maybe we can make a few drops. I use the same name as I do here

Send an invite your way Fabe, is from tarksosin. Canray, what's your tag on there? And what about you bannockburn?

mongoose

So what do you guys use for voice chat? I've been using skype but I do have teamspeak installed

Invite sent Canray. I prefer TS myself, Skype's always been a kinda laggy, buggy piece of shite for me.

Haven
t had any problems with Skype myself but I can use TS if needed.,do you use thew unofficial MWO server?

Yep, at the address I posted above. Currently in dropship 5

Got a friend request from perfectTommy,that anyone here?

not me

I'm fairly perfect.








-pt

Well, I bought my COM-2D, and in my first match with it my team won, I got a capture assist bonus plus some salvage credit, and took so little damage that repairs were free.

I'm Robyn

Added!

Invites sent to Robyn, mongoose, and tarksosin from Hakkonen.

Is XP implemented? I keep seeing XP gains in the after-match report, but it's not showing up in the Pilot Lab.

Sure it is. There's Mech XP and General XP.
General XP should be in the lower part of the screen, next to C-Bills, but you only earn XP after you're in a non-trial mech.
Then you can click on pilot lab and chose your chassis where you can spend the XP

OK, I found it. Not exactly intuitive, but I found it. How do I add armor? I upgraded my Commando to ferro-fibrous, and reduced its weight by 0.4 ton. How do I apply extra armor to get back up to 25 tons?

Depends on how much it already carries ... But when you go to Mechlab, you have 4 tabs on the right hand side. One is for weapons, the 2nd is for ammo, 3rd for equipment (such as heatsinks, reactors, jumpjets) and the 4th is the armor diagram. There's a max value you can put on, of course.

I'm experimenting with a new loadout. I swapped the SRM6 and SRM4 for three Streak 2s, dropping a ton of ammo and saving enough weight to max out the Commando's armor.

right now, streak srm are perfect against light and medium mechs, due to usually hitting the CT.
so the lighter the armor there, the better. and because they are streak you will usually not miss so much too.

Of course, the best way to beat a SSRM boat is to power down. Can't get a lock if there's no energy signature/heat signature or something. Of course, not a viable tactic in the middle of a fight, but if that 3xSSRM2 Commando is trying to cap your base, you can park in the zone and just turn off and frustrate the heck out of them. Same strategy works against Streak-Cats too

You're assuming no other weapons. My Streak Commando still has its medium laser, and I assume Streak Cats also keep at least one laser as a backup weapon.