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BookWyrm
QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0)
QUOTE (BookWyrm @  Jan 13 2005, 11:22 PM)
Sadly, according to the novel Steel Rain, my home of Long Island is a yakuza resort for all the Japanicorps sararimen. I usually have my runs take place either in Seattle or New York City.

!!

Lon giland is run by the Yaks... Wow.

Yeah. frown.gif
Crimsondude 2.0
And no one else finds that strange?
Altheas
My hometown would most likely have been obliterated from the map. The joys of living in outback Australia. biggrin.gif
shadow_scholar
I'm in Austin, TX, which is now on the CAS/Aztlan border. I have been thinking of making it the new campaign setting for our newly reformed group. I'm still taking it under consideration, but I'd rather have more time to prepare the setting if I were to do it. I imagine Austin would be a heavy tech place in 60 years like it is now. The smuggling industry would be enormous, too, with the border and all. The more I think about it the more I think I might do it, but I'll have to consult my players.
U_Fester
I just nort of Houston so I should be in CAS ( have not looked at the actual border). We have been runing primarly in Seattle but have gone to some of the outside areas.
Crimsondude 2.0
Well, unless you're north of Tulsa, you're in the CAS.
Coil
QUOTE (Skarn Ka @ Jan 16 2005, 04:44 PM)
My hometown is 70 klicks East of Marseilles, but I never played there... It's been mostly Seattle, Denver and Frankfurt.
I'm thinking about bringing my players to Tel-Aviv where I live now, cause I think there is some fun potential for this city... but not much canon has been released about it, so I guess I'll just create something from scrap  rotfl.gif

HA! I REALLY look forward to a middle eastern book or Shadows of the Middle East, given the political/religious climate that has always existed I couldn't even begin to imagine what places like Israel must be like in the Sixth World. I recall on the timeline though that Tel Aviv is chemical attacked by Libya. Libya is then nuked by Israel. Such a book will probably will never happen though since the book would have to touch down on several "sensitive" and oh so offensive topics. Israel would be next to impossible to run in I would imagine with their intelligence agencies, growing militarization, and well...Israel already practically is like something out of Shadowrun with their little plans for a certain wall..

I live in Denver myself in Englewood to be exact, and having consulted my Denver Box set several times to look this up, I live in Englewood which is apparently on the edge of Aztlan in what is now apparently little China. Which is um...now CAS territory obviously...so wooo...CAS militarized occupation in front of my home! I've never run a game in Denver on the other hand but would really like too.
Crimsondude 2.0
Well, CAS controls the Aztlan sector now as well.
The Grifter
Louisville, KY. It's on the map in the sourcebook, but I've never found any material for it. Anyone know if there is any?
The Question Man
The Fraser Valley Sprawl
The Grifter
Hmmmmmm?
Crimsondude 2.0
Not to my knowledge. But the 2063 gubernatiorial election was noteworthy enough for a mention in SOTA64's Culture Shock chapter.
vapor
QUOTE (The Grifter)
Louisville, KY. It's on the map in the sourcebook, but I've never found any material for it. Anyone know if there is any?

i'm in lexington... as far as i can tell we're in a fairly boring section of ucas.


*sigh*
Traks
I think my city is completely ignored in SR, and maybe Baltic states have few notes in Europe shadow book. So it is tough to run here, but I will run in another European city - like, there aren't enough melted reactors and toxic waste in England smile.gif
Omer Joel
QUOTE (Coil)
QUOTE (Skarn Ka @ Jan 16 2005, 04:44 PM)
My hometown is 70 klicks East of Marseilles, but I never played there... It's been mostly Seattle, Denver and Frankfurt.
I'm thinking about bringing my players to Tel-Aviv where I live now, cause I think there is some fun potential for this city... but not much canon has been released about it, so I guess I'll just create something from scrap  rotfl.gif

HA! I REALLY look forward to a middle eastern book or Shadows of the Middle East, given the political/religious climate that has always existed I couldn't even begin to imagine what places like Israel must be like in the Sixth World. I recall on the timeline though that Tel Aviv is chemical attacked by Libya. Libya is then nuked by Israel. Such a book will probably will never happen though since the book would have to touch down on several "sensitive" and oh so offensive topics. Israel would be next to impossible to run in I would imagine with their intelligence agencies, growing militarization, and well...Israel already practically is like something out of Shadowrun with their little plans for a certain wall..

I would have written, and I might write a little netbook for Israel; I had a proposal for WizKids a while ago semi-complete but discontinued due to the horrors of Real-Life™, especially (YUK!) college exams. However, if there will be enough interest, I might write a netbook; What has to be ignored in official cannon due to political issues does not have to be ignored in fan-publications on the Net - I don't need a market, and I don't need profitability, just some community interest.

Anyway, I had my own political developments in the 6th world's Israel, including a quasi-populist beraucratic government (think Israel or France in the 1950's/1960's) and a local corp (BioGuard, a single or double A but has many connections with the government and is the main supplier of Methane fuel to the gasoline-deprived Israel), not to mention several quasi-awakened semi-underground movements (the Matriarchal Revolutionary Party or MRP for short) and religios changes (A quasi-Wiccan neo-cnaanite (sp?) Goddess worshipping religious group; think of it as a matriarchal variation on Judaism mixed in with some Wiccan elements). My sources of inspiration are RL israel (which is becoming more and more militarist as the time goes by, not to mention capitalism and corporations being EXTREMELY on the rise), 1984 (not the Stalinist government but the way in which Orwell describes London) and Dark Angel (sector passes... roadblocks... everything looks third-world... hmmm... looks like Palastine (or sothern Tel Aviv) today or Israel in less than 60 years).

My hometown? Kiriat Shmona, Israel-Lebanon border today; Israel/Arabia (NIJ) border in 2065; unemployments skyrockets today, and in my Shadowrun history gives rise to a quasi-awakened revolutionary movement in 2015 and the 2030's (following the EuroWars II). The chemical attack on Tel Aviv made many of its residents (those who couldn't pay for an apartment in the sealed arcologies operated by various corps, especially BioGuard and Ares) flee north and south, and so Kiriat Shmona in the 6th World is surrounded by refugee camps, slums and sweatshops in which the corps exploit them. Add to this the heavy MRP presence and various anarchist organizations (who, unlike the worker-oriented MRP, don't have any second thoughts about urban geurilla; the MRP prefers mass strikes, big demonstrations and the occasional datasteal to spread dirt on corps on the public grids), and you get the recepie for a shadow-heavy city.
Deacon
Omaha, Nebraska was mentioned only once in Target: Smugglers Havens, and all it got was a little blurb about SAC, which had been decommissioned by the time Shadowrun was originally written in the 80's.

In my game world, Omaha is quite different. A 'frontier town' on the Missouri River, Omaha is on the main pipeline to Denver, I-80. Since the NAN border passes through the state halfway, this means there's a lot of traffic passing through town, either from/to NAN or from/to Denver and the UCAS.

Omaha has always been a transportation and telecommunications hub; we have more land lines coming in and going out of Omaha than any other city in the world (because of SAC and now STRATCOM). This makes Omaha the more logical place for a Data Haven, and in my world, Denver might be where the Nexus is, but the Data Haven's here.

Omaha has an international airport in 2005; in 2065, there's another built between it and Lincoln (NE) that serves as a stable launching platform for SB's and Suborbitals. (The fact that there's also a space habitat in geosynchronous orbit over Omaha -- don't ask -- also means that the Ashland Aerospace Nexus became a launching platform for orbital payloads.)

Omaha was, until recently, the home city of the world's first true megacorporation, ConAgra. In my campaign, it still is, and ConAgra, while a tier 2 megacorp, still has the power to flex amongst the big boys. They control the feedbag, which gives them as much control as Aztechnology's nation or Ares' military. The Crash didn't wipe out ConAgra, since I know that all their data is backed up on non-erasable hard media and even what's magnetic is stored in a Faraday Cage on an antiquated (but secure) computer network.

There's more, but basically, Omaha is like a mini-Denver. You have smuggling action, political maneuvering between the NAN and UCAS -- and the Omaha Sioux tribes and their casinos (they sided with the USA when SAIM came around, which pissed off the NAN something fierce, that their people would side with the white man); corporate dealings with several tier 2 corporations, ConAgra and the Big Twelve, and of course the occasional trips into orbital space, made easy by the fact that there's a launching platform (NOT owned by AresSpace, even more tension in the mix) in the 'plex...
The Grifter
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I'm in lexington... as far as i can tell we're in a fairly boring section of ucas.

If they could only imagine rigger rednecks in monster trucks. LOL
Crimsondude 2.0
QUOTE (Deacon @ Feb 9 2005, 05:26 AM)
Omaha, Nebraska was mentioned only once in Target: Smugglers Havens, and all it got was a little blurb about SAC, which had been decommissioned by the time Shadowrun was originally written in the 80's.

It was NORAD.
FlakJacket
QUOTE (Omer Joel)
I would have written, and I might write a little netbook for Israel; I had a proposal for WizKids a while ago semi-complete but discontinued due to the horrors of Real-Life™, especially (YUK!) college exams. However, if there will be enough interest, I might write a netbook; What has to be ignored in official cannon due to political issues does not have to be ignored in fan-publications on the Net - I don't need a market, and I don't need profitability, just some community interest.

Israel's getting a section of the forthcoming 'Shadows of Asia' sourcebook, they're apparently covering the whole of the Middle East in it, so it'd have to be a net-book. In regards to your comment on politics etc., FanPro seems to be doing a pretty good job of ignoring the usual sacred cows and writing what's, generally, sensible. Well as much as you can with dragons, magic and megas. wink.gif I'd definately be interested in what you as a local think might have happened to Israel in the past sixty years and what it was like though.

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My hometown? Kiriat Shmona, Israel-Lebanon border today; Israel/Arabia (NIJ) border in 2065

Quick thing, but isn't Syria still an independent nation? I know that they're part of the IUM/NIJ movements, but as far as I know they haven't joined with Arabia. The timeline says they are, but I can't find anything in the books to back it up.
Crimsondude 2.0
QUOTE (DotSW @ 41)
Located primarily in parts of Turkey, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Armenia, and Azerbaijan...

So... Yes, it's stiill independent.

It seems only the actual Gulf states and SA (i.e., the Arabian Peninsula) are part of Arabia. DotSW, 43.

BTW, anyone else notice that the leader of the PKK and the Kurdish state's name is a little familiar?

Oh, and spud's a badass author.
FlakJacket
You mean the assassinated leader of the Afghan Northen Alliance? Or did I miss something?
Omer Joel
Well, I'd be delighted to read through SoA once it's be published; however, I doubt that Israel will have any heavy coverage in a book detailing such a wide area with so many Shadowrun-relevant countries.

Anyway, I recall reading (in Shadow of the Comet?) about Lebanon being taken over by the NIJ; Syria is still an independant state, but Kiriat Shmona is far closer to Lebanon. Sure, today Lebanon is under Syrian occupation, but apparantly it was taken over by the NIJ in the late 2050's/early 2060's.

see this thread:
http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?act=...t=ST&f=7&t=7175
Crimsondude 2.0
It was DotSW and SOTA64, actually.

And, Flak: Yes.
Weredigo
My Home Town, Chicago and it's Suburbs. In my game, with oh so many other wasteland towns to choose from, Chicago is not bug city. Rather it is a Haven for Dwarves. Elves have TirTairngire, Orc's and Trolls have thier Underground. Dwarves need a place to call thier own. Those who would have a negative opinion on Dwarves would probably think of them as walking talking windbags, so why not the windy city. Besides I remember well the attitude of ChiTowners, we don't back down easy, we're easy going and laid back, and very little weatherwise can bother use enough to complain about it. Three typical Dwarven Attitudes, Ballsy, Beerguzzling, and Bearded.

Politically it's a neutral zone, so many Rumors have been started and kept going about the gruesome terrors that lurk it's streets few ever visit, but when they do they either leave with a "Shang Gri La" understanding (we wanna be left alone, we find out you say anything, we find you, we silence you) or they just don't leave for the rest of thier natural life.

Corporates??? They know full well what really happens in the windy city, and do nothing to stop the "illusion". In exchange they have an easily accessible supply of Handcrafted Magickal Items. To know a Bladesmith is a good thing, to know a dwarven MageSmith is much better.

Every now and then when we add a new player to the group and I get a wild hair up my butt I'll have the group hired for a job rescuing somebody from Bug City Chicago, and will spend the rest of the game handing out easy target numbers just to see what plans and supplies the new person demands. The Jhonson hands out an unlimited credstick as down payment (usually a definite warning sign to my players) so they don't have to use any of thier money. Then they new person gets to spend time with just the Group and get to know them without having to worry about insulting 'the troll at the bar". When they reach the destination the look on thier face when they figure out it was a just for laughs roadtrip is priceless. One guy even just sat back, closed his eyes, and grinned for a half hour straight before he started laughing. They meet the person who they were supposed to "rescue" hang out with the Dwarves. Pick up some really wierd magical items (with unlimited credstick), which I kindly ask them to create and design themselves. Finally they get back home and recieve the rest of thier payment. "Uhm, sorry you misunderstood me, the contract was not for 5k each, 5k total, I'm sorry but after all the deductions made from the credstick that's all I can afford anyways."

of course that only takes about 2 hours or so, afte which I pull out the hand written adventure and I let them know that fun time is over.
FXcalibur
I'm looking forward to shadows of asia. All I know about singapore is that there's a data haven there, and Cap Chaos sent the Arc files there before otaku shutdown shadowland.
Weredigo
Why wait for the book, why not just sit down with your GM and start fleshing it out, starting with the neighborhood you grew up in. One of the Tricks is if you start small and harmless enough, by the time the book is out, what you created shouldn't have any problems fitting in with the Canon stuff.
Fortune
Because some of us are actually interested in the canon material. That doesn't mean we don't adapt it to our needs, or haven't already used places that have not as yet been documented.
Weredigo
I do have respect for those who run the game as purely canon as possible, and now that I think about it, there's another reason I like this game, the books don't quite cover everything...
vapor
QUOTE (The Grifter)
QUOTE
I'm in lexington... as far as i can tell we're in a fairly boring section of ucas.

If they could only imagine rigger rednecks in monster trucks. LOL

i've seen enough scary things that rednecks do in moster trucks WITHOUT a vcr...



"hey, watch this!"

eek.gif
Crimsondude 2.0
I thought their famous last words were usually, "Check this shit out!"

Nitpicking, sure, but it's me we're talking about.
vapor
last words are completely dependant on how deep in the south you are and the length of their mullet...


Deacon
QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0)
QUOTE (Deacon @ Feb 9 2005, 05:26 AM)
Omaha, Nebraska was mentioned only once in Target: Smugglers Havens, and all it got was a little blurb about SAC, which had been decommissioned by the time Shadowrun was originally written in the 80's.

It was NORAD.

Yeah, see, last I checked, neither SAC nor STRATCOM were part of NORAD, except perhaps as a peripheral part of it. I just love the amount of research they did when looking at Omaha.
Xirces
QUOTE (vapor)
last words are completely dependant on how deep in the south you are and the length of their mullet...

and whether they argue if said mullet is just a mohawk "worn down"...
vapor
QUOTE (Xirces)
QUOTE (vapor @ Feb 12 2005, 09:44 PM)
last words are completely dependant on how deep in the south you are and the length of their mullet...

and whether they argue if said mullet is just a mohawk "worn down"...

is it just me or is our friend in the other thread have some severe "mullet denial" issues?
Xirces
It's not just you. I don't know what the problem is - my own hairstyle is /possibly/ a mullet - I don't have an issue with it. Maybe if my entire personality and life was dependant on my hair I'd make more of a fuss smile.gif

Lets see if we can get /every single thread/ OT and discussing mullets biggrin.gif
vapor
mullet hunting is one of my favorite passtimes... all hail the mighty mississippi mudslide!

smile.gif
badmudderfugger
So here's the lowdown on my hometown and places I've lived:

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada: Now part of the UCAS and a cool bordertown that would be a neat hometown for a smuggling campaign (it's close enough to Thunder Bay and still in the UCAS)

Dundee, Scotland: Nothing written about it, but it's north of the Scotsprawl, but south of the Wild Lands and so may make a good location for a campaign that wants both nature adventures and sprawl fun.

Wolfville, Nova Scotia, Canada: Um.......nothing happened when I was living there and I assume that it remains the same into the 2060s. The biggest threat for the PCs: life-threatening boredom.

Lake Louise, Alberta, Canada: A great location for wilderness adventures involving smugglers, mountain spirits and vacationing corporate types. Maybe a game set in the vacation town with the PCs playing local bodyguards?

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada: This is described in SONA and I think a campaign based around organized crime (Yakuza, Vory & Triads) would be a great game. Come to think of it...seeing as I'm living here now, that might make for a great game now! biggrin.gif

This is fun! nyahnyah.gif
Fortune
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Lake Louise, Alberta, Canada: A great location for wilderness adventures involving smugglers, mountain spirits and vacationing corporate types. Maybe a game set in the vacation town with the PCs playing local bodyguards?


Which is pretty close to what it is in canon, thanks to Dunky! smile.gif
Sharaloth
I've lived all across Canada at one point or another, but not really in places that would be supportive to an SR game in an of themselves. Now the closest big cities, on the other hand, might be SR worthy. Coquitlam was next to Vancouver, and that's a place where you can do plenty of Shadow business, especially since Vancouver's a major port city with the Tsimshian to the north and Seattle and Tir Tairngire to the south. I've never run something there, mostly because I've never really thought about it, or had the inclination to.

London might be interesting, though I doubt you could get away with too much before you had to move on. Ottawa would be a hotbed for cross border Quebec/UCAS smuggling, but once it loses it's importance as the Capital, I doubt it would survive long as a major city.

Now Toronto is and always has been the Big City, and I actually did run a session there (it was only a single mission, though, since most of the action in my campaigns takes place in either Seattle or New York). It was kinda fun, actually, having a big, invincible critter-spirit-thing tearing up the ROM and downtown Toronto while the PC's watched the devastation and tried to keep the cops away (the creature gained power from everyone it killed) while desperately thinking of some way to kill this thing. Yeah, the possibilities in T.O. are fairly wide.
Dog
I'm also from Winnipeg and have not really used it as a campaign location. However, I've written several pages about my 2060's version of it that I don't know what to do with.
some key points:
Major pharmaceuticals and biotech industry here.
Very near to what would be the UCAS/Algokian border.
Home to the Canadian Forces Air Command HQ.
Very high Aboriginal (or Native, if you prefer) population, and pretty central to the Aboriginal self-government issue, with talk of the establishment of 'urban reserves'. Lots of sacred sights to be found nearby.

The nearby town of Portage La Prarie was mentioned in the Secrets of Power novels, as a t-bird smuggler stop-over. Which is cool, because there is a defunct CF airbase there.
Solstice
QUOTE (badmudderfugger)

Lake Louise, Alberta, Canada: A great location for wilderness adventures involving smugglers, mountain spirits and vacationing corporate types.

This is fun! nyahnyah.gif

I've worked with some outfitters that have worked out of Lake Louise. Judging by their stories it sounds like an amazing place. Elaborate if you feel like it. wink.gif
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