Meh. I'm in the opposite boat. The PCC is supposed to have the second highest GDP in the world behind Japan (Actually, I'd assume it's either a close second or narrow first now, given the shitstorm that hit Japan in 2061)-- something that you have to consider is that this is founded in what is one of the poorest parts of the United States (except for Phoenix, which just sucks [I can say that with impunity since NeoJudas is no longer around]) and, according to SoNA, retained most of its current population--a population which ... Well, like someone once said: Being average is easy. Being bad, especially being bad at everything, requires effort. But we're expected to believe that even though Albuquerque didn't even swing at the opportunity it was given 25 years ago to be a technology center, that it's now the matrixware capital of North America. History passed by what's the PCC 150 years ago. They had their chance. Now, everytime I read about it I just laugh.

I'm another from the DeeCee sprawl. I'm awfully glad the writers thought to distinguish North Virginia from the rest of the state in terms of culture. It's completely different up here.

As for runs, I got a hold of my old high school's blueprints and staged a run there for my players. It had been bought out and turned into a Novatech data storage facility, part of which handled information for a deltaware clinic. Half the team distracted the guards with a massive frontal assault while the others snuck in to get some paydata. They were all assisted by another player who had bought a mortar and found a nice, quiet place to shell from.

It was quite entertaining.

But the rest of the subchapter on the DeeCee Sprawl in SoNA is just ridiculous.

Bug city, heh, actually went past cermak the other day cruising with my friends. Poor Chicago, bugs and a nuke.

My hometown is 70 klicks East of Marseilles, but I never played there... It's been mostly Seattle, Denver and Frankfurt.
I'm thinking about bringing my players to Tel-Aviv where I live now, cause I think there is some fun potential for this city... but not much canon has been released about it, so I guess I'll just create something from scrap

My hometown would be on the very outer edge of the Boston Sprawl, but as for where I live now, I don't think anyone has ever written anything about New Hampshire in 2064.

It might be out of print, but there are definitely copies available through different sources like used book stores or ebay. They can usually be acquired quite cheaply too.

My hometown is Upper Sandusky.

We're in Dunk's will!!!!!

I've lived in lots of places, most of which have at least some mention in canon. I grew up mostly in Hamilton, Ontario though, which isn't mentioned once that I can recall. Hell, even Toronto doesn't receive more than a word or three in the books.

I think Toledo, OH was mentioned in a novel for some reason, but only as a news blurb.

Interesting side note, Toledo used to be considered neutral ground for the Chicago/Detroit Mafia I have heard.

With my hometown being Trondheim, Norway. There's not too much canon-material on it. Except for the pages in SoE about Norway in general, and the graffiti on one of the pics from those same pages.
Being one of Norways three large cities, and Norway being as lawless/corp-whored as the impression I got from the SoE I'd imagine there'd be some biz-opportunities here, though it's not like Oslo.

I'd imagine doing things like smuggler-runs in the Tronheimsfjord, lots of hiding places, proximity to the more inaccesiible Sweden would make it a prime spot. Or infiltrating whatever SK-factory I'm sure would exist here (probably power-demanding industry drawing on the cheap hydro-power). Something's bound to have occupied DORA(huge, indestructible, ww2 submarine bunker), that could make an interesting run/location. Also any of the numerous Hydropower-plants on the Nidelva river could be a possible target for ecos or anti-SKs.

Also, with Trondheim being the Norwegian city of learning and technology today, I'd imagine it'd be full of empty buildings after the crash.

My nieghbourhood would probably be reduced to a slum of a residential area, with houses that have gone through thirty years of maintenance neglection. Either that or become a corporate enclave.

In addition to all of this, Trøndelag(the region) is famous for moonshining, a tradition I'm sure would survive until the sixties.

As I've said a few times, SoE is less than nothing in real terms - it's an update. Since I don't have the info it's updating it's just confusing and of no use to me as a GM. Although I'm no longer looking for a refund on this book, the other chapters in it are actually vaguely useful.

Anyone know of a reputable second hand book website? Didn't know they existed, and I don't trust eBay.

I'm actually not complaining about SoE...

I'm giving out about the establishiment of Ireland as "Tir na nOg" in SR continuity from the very beginning...

but that belongs in a different thread.

On the other hand, my hometown is in Dunk's will too (I've no idea why it mentions the University in Galway...I'll have to find out someday...:apathy:)

In Brazil, in fact...

Glad to hear that there are more ideas floating around, I certainly know my Gm has some as well.
What is Imagonem? Can't say I've heard of it, though I don't keep very much up to date.



Superior, not arrogant.

Right, because it's not possible that the map showing what area Saito controls is a "best guess" or "somewhere around here" or any number of "buffer zone" solutions.

Yes, buffer zones. Disputed Areas,and such. That's it. That is why, the zone reaches past santa cruz county,and over Monterey county. And then go a few miles south of that. It is also why it is the same color as the Bay Area,and not the pattern they use to show contested area...

And even so, can you explain why the Central Valley went 100+ miles east?

Becasue Shadowrun maps are crap and always have been?

Seemingly random tectonic uphevals.

Backgammon, I´m taking a peek at the Thread about South America. Let´s have some talk there.

My town is on the Aztlan border

San Angelo, TX

I feel I ought to have known about imagonem. But I can't say I have. And I don't think anyone I game with have either. Thanks for linking.

I live outside of Newark, New Jersey.

According to the Novel Crossroads, this is also a big Yakuza place. Which is rather silly since 'Jersey-Italian' is such a common word here. I figure NJ is still just the meeting point for the New York and Philly sprawls though.

And it's probubly just as clean as it is today.

Well, Steve probably just saw Johnny Mnemonic again and figured (like I tend to), "who cares about Jersey?"

Anyway, about SoE. My point is that you're making a rather strained exaggeration by stating that there's almost nothing out there. Moreover, your unwillingness or inability to buy a used copy of the London SB does not add to the presence of "almost nothing" on Britain generally and London specifically. It's not like they're going to give you the dime town of every street and neighborhood anyway. Wand while I hate Carl & Mark's work and think that you might be better off without being constrained by such crap as the London SB, it's still out there. Even Findley, who had vision, and I'll give him that much (not much more, though), wrote some awful place book materials, sometimes going so far as to defy common logic and geography.

Cheyenne, Wyoming here. Whee....

Actually it doesn't, that's a popular misconception among Anglic language users. It's more likely it comes from a medieval Portuguese term meaning the "Hot Lands" - Terra das Brazas (which auspiciously enough can also be translated to the Land of Hot Chicks in modern Portuguese).

Hmmm ... the Philippines is in a state of revolution against the Imperial Japan and the Japancorps. Well, what else is new? This country is always in a state of turmoil. Actually the parts in the Cyberpirates book and the YotC book could be extrapolated from real life. The Philippines is probably number 1 or 2 in corrupt governments and the people are fairly lazy (but only when they are here, move them abroad and they work like the dickens.)

I live in a little podunk town called Greensburg PA, about an hours drive from the nearest major city, which is Pittsburgh PA.

Next to nothing has been written on South Western PA. Not that I can really blame the SR development team. Nothing important has happened here for decades now, and I don't see how that would change by 2064.

On a side note though, walking around in Pittsburgh puts the whole "Zone" deal in pretty clear perspective, as we have buildings that look like Z zone trash rght next to the shiney AAA buildings of the PPG Place. It's really weird.

Fresno, CA is under Saito control. I hope he's treating it right.

Charleston, West Virginia (Athens for college)

Nothing's here now, and probably won't be. I've only run in Seattle, but I've come up with soem things during random conversations with some of my players from the area.

We'll probably still have our odd mix of heavy pollution in the middle of one big forest. I suspect some industry will move out, but not much. The chemical plants are just too big to leave entirely. I've always described it as meta-heavy, because it just seems to fit. Magic and cyber are probably both rare - anyone with those sort of abilities or resources will be moving out and heading for bigger cities pretty quickly.

The whole area is probably roughly the same size, with a bit more sprawl out along the highways. It'd consider most of it a "C" area or lower, excluding the areas along the river between the Capitol grounds and train bridge. Those are probably higher, though there are really only one or two streets between the big expensive houses and the old, run-down ones. Also, the hills around the city itself are probably higher as well.

The only things to draw any runners to the area would be some minor corp-runs between the plants, and the forests are probably mostly intactm, which might interest some shamans or back-to-nature types. We also have a major highway that would lead between the CAS and UCAS, and other roads would lead to a lot of people passing through, but not staying.

I grew up out side New York and that's where most of my group lives and where I go to play.

Hawaii, Oahu in particular, is the setting for Paradise Lost, the old SR2 adventure. Overall, I liked the way Hawaii was represented, got a kick out of the return to (something like) a monarchy. Liked that people in hawaii had biases against ELVES and didn't much mind dwarves, trolls and orks. The idea of a secret lab in the cliffs of Kauai made me giggle. The idea of surfers having to watch out potentially for Kraken also made me smile.

Oh I did appreciate that the writers put some effort into the use of hawaiian language. Thought a terrorist cell using the acronym ALOHA was kinda funny though.