His problem is that he has nothing to work with at ground zero, so to speak, no way in. He couldn't even find the bunraku parlor without James's help, and he needed the help of the 7 Serpents connections with the Yakuza to get an audience with the owner, because he doesn't know the proper channels. He wouldn't know the first thing about finding a fixer, or getting in on a run, or getting introduced to organized crime.
In order to convince the 7 Serpents to help him, since he had nothing to offer (except money, which he needed to buy Cassandra's 'contract'), he offered really the only thing he had, his skills as a physical adept and a peculiar sense of detachment from the world which is a thin lime away from a complete lack of practical application of morals.
Sure, he'd like nothing better than to take Cassandra and James out of this life for good, but he can't. He's not dumb enough to try to renege on his responsibilities to the gang, so if he's in, he's in. At least until such time as he can walk away without incurring a death sentence on his head from the rest of the gang.
And at its core, that was really what I was shooting for in my concept: A guy who really has absolutely no business being in a gang, has somehow found himself in a gang out of necessity, and yet has the skills to survive and even thrive in one. Think of a 'what if' kind of scenario.
Did that help clear it up? Incidentally, if the background doesn't seem to support this, please let me know so I can reexamine it for consistency.
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I made an edit to my previous post, while you were writing this one. That part makes it seem like being in a gang would go completly against his nature.
I like the idea of having a character with a conscience around, if not two or three. It sort of sounds like the crazy life has been a path of least resistance for him and he was sort of drawn in by fate. That's cool. All sorts fall down.
As for not liking bullies or those who act too big for their shoes, I could see that causing some decent RP. It might make him sort of an oddball among the 7S, but I don't see it from precluding from participation.
If someone were to make an idle claim around some our characters, wouldn't they call that person on it? At knifepoint?
Idunno, maybe he sees the gang as a necessary evil in his path toward freedom, kinda like how I look at my cubicle.
As for not liking bullies or those who act too big for their shoes, I could see that causing some decent RP. It might make him sort of an oddball among the 7S, but I don't see it from precluding from participation.
If someone were to make an idle claim around some our characters, wouldn't they call that person on it? At knifepoint?
Idunno, maybe he sees the gang as a necessary evil in his path toward freedom, kinda like how I look at my cubicle.
WinterRat you have very valid questions/concerns.
To start can someone usurp power or are the NPC's too powerful or needed? Yes it can be done. I will quote a basic law of the universe...every action has an equal, or opposite reaction.
Is the story completely NPC/plot drive? I will afford the PC's every oppurtunity to venture out and follow their own paths of development. This medium affords us some leway..ie we all arent at a table trying to out shout the others to get a question answered or are we completely worried about time constrants. To cap on your oppurtunities for character development...every action has an equal, or opposite reaction.
Is this a convention of bad-asses? to quote a Jedi master " there is always a bigger fish" and.....here it comes.....every action has an equal, or opposite reaction. The gang is a collection of very tough people who have the " PC GLOW" If the PC's are not thinking, just destroying everything then [ see the universal quote] I have stated from the beginning that although violence is a fact of life for the gang it isnt my intended direction for the campaign...there are very violent dangerous people in the gang (remember you're one of them). Everyone is "using" the gang for their own puroses'. Some as a family/pack they belong to, some as a way into organized crime, some for protection from the other gangs, some because they just dont fit in anywhere else, and in those puposes for being there is the story of the gang.
Alot of the players are PM'ing eachother or corresponding here on how their characters know or relate to eachother, The big powerhouse of a Troll is friends with the scrawny, natty dreadlocked, pot smoking rastafarian.There is interaction and roleplay going on and that is my focus.
Damn!!! how'd that soap box get under my feet again.
All very good concerns WinterRat and i assure you that a. I have the tools to keep things from degenerating into chaos and b. I'll give a PC enough rope to hang himself with it. All this is because i Know the.....say it with me now.....[ insert the universal rule here] ....can i get an amen
To start can someone usurp power or are the NPC's too powerful or needed? Yes it can be done. I will quote a basic law of the universe...every action has an equal, or opposite reaction.
Is the story completely NPC/plot drive? I will afford the PC's every oppurtunity to venture out and follow their own paths of development. This medium affords us some leway..ie we all arent at a table trying to out shout the others to get a question answered or are we completely worried about time constrants. To cap on your oppurtunities for character development...every action has an equal, or opposite reaction.
Is this a convention of bad-asses? to quote a Jedi master " there is always a bigger fish" and.....here it comes.....every action has an equal, or opposite reaction. The gang is a collection of very tough people who have the " PC GLOW" If the PC's are not thinking, just destroying everything then [ see the universal quote] I have stated from the beginning that although violence is a fact of life for the gang it isnt my intended direction for the campaign...there are very violent dangerous people in the gang (remember you're one of them). Everyone is "using" the gang for their own puroses'. Some as a family/pack they belong to, some as a way into organized crime, some for protection from the other gangs, some because they just dont fit in anywhere else, and in those puposes for being there is the story of the gang.
Alot of the players are PM'ing eachother or corresponding here on how their characters know or relate to eachother, The big powerhouse of a Troll is friends with the scrawny, natty dreadlocked, pot smoking rastafarian.There is interaction and roleplay going on and that is my focus.
Damn!!! how'd that soap box get under my feet again.
All very good concerns WinterRat and i assure you that a. I have the tools to keep things from degenerating into chaos and b. I'll give a PC enough rope to hang himself with it. All this is because i Know the.....say it with me now.....[ insert the universal rule here] ....can i get an amen
Sandoval sorry i didnt mean to imply that a sub role such as say legions leather clad gimp or anything.
And who joins the gang? Some Military brats out of Ft. Lewis, Locals to the area who want to belong, or look tough, have street cred.
and now a side note... I see WinterRat's character as a Samurai of old. Duty and Honor before self.( kind of tragic, neh?) He is holding his word of honor although doing dishonorable acts.Is it a paradox? yes and no.
And who joins the gang? Some Military brats out of Ft. Lewis, Locals to the area who want to belong, or look tough, have street cred.
and now a side note... I see WinterRat's character as a Samurai of old. Duty and Honor before self.( kind of tragic, neh?) He is holding his word of honor although doing dishonorable acts.Is it a paradox? yes and no.
I hope i've answered your questions and relieved your concerns WinterRat. I also hope to see you play so, that you can see how i will quide the campaign. If you have further questions or concerns please let me know. I dont mind answering questions....it's what a GM does.
Is this one still recruiting? I really like the gritty, street level stuff. If I can get in on ground floor, that would be great.
Who do you have so far that has expressed interest, If I may be so bold as to ask?
Who do you have so far that has expressed interest, If I may be so bold as to ask?
Yes i am still recruiting Mugzy
I have Cydlexia, Fukoh, Sandoval, Kiedo, Flipshow and possibly WinterRat1 interested.I dont think i've missed anyone but i dont have my list with me.I'm not sure if you've read all the posts but alot of questions have been asked and answered ( at least i think i answered them) about the setting and characters.
Character types are...a Big Troll, A klepto, A wolf Shifter, A street level Face, oh and a dope smoking rastafarian shaman, and a possibly a psyad.
I have Cydlexia, Fukoh, Sandoval, Kiedo, Flipshow and possibly WinterRat1 interested.I dont think i've missed anyone but i dont have my list with me.I'm not sure if you've read all the posts but alot of questions have been asked and answered ( at least i think i answered them) about the setting and characters.
Character types are...a Big Troll, A klepto, A wolf Shifter, A street level Face, oh and a dope smoking rastafarian shaman, and a possibly a psyad.
it fuhok you should know this since you learned the beginning with me
sorry...i actually didnt see that...thought it was some sort of abreviation to go f' off
no I have more cooth than that
really
no not really
you know me so I can see how you expected that
you know me so I can see how you expected that
The rasta is hooking up his van pretty pimp
sweet Dale will help him fish bowl it
Dale or Dane?
Very very nice.
I have to say, Im attracted to a serious biker kind of guy in this setting.
A guy who's slicker than dog snot on his bike; maybe a courier or something. He may not have the BEST bike, but god damn can he ride. Maybe even work as far as acrobatics on the bike.
I dont want to do a Phys-Ad, or a mage, so perhaps a VCR1 would be appropriate.....along with a balance augmenter!
Im at work right now, so I cant work a total character out, but I have good ideas for his background forming. Give me a little bit today and I'll get this background put together.
If anyone has any other ideas I can stack on this base concept, let me know!
I have to say, Im attracted to a serious biker kind of guy in this setting.
A guy who's slicker than dog snot on his bike; maybe a courier or something. He may not have the BEST bike, but god damn can he ride. Maybe even work as far as acrobatics on the bike.
I dont want to do a Phys-Ad, or a mage, so perhaps a VCR1 would be appropriate.....along with a balance augmenter!
Im at work right now, so I cant work a total character out, but I have good ideas for his background forming. Give me a little bit today and I'll get this background put together.
If anyone has any other ideas I can stack on this base concept, let me know!
Dane but they call him Blacky after the incident with the blackjack in the store room
are you going to buy tools for vehicle repair....ie a shop?
yes i havent bought much yet I'll bring what i have with me
Mugzy....thats a good idea, your bike skills give you some respect....an aspect no one has hit on yet.
I thought that as well
I also want to make him a thief of sorts
I also want to make him a thief of sorts
I've got some stuff in the SOTA book that you can use.....also cars are easier to break into in the game than is really thought. Especially people with the proximity alarms.....just use a scanner and a decryption module to get access, or follow the owner around till he uses his remote access and bingo.....you have a way inside the vehicle.
sweet we'll work on it later
Mugzy...it isnt neccessary to install a VCR and i'm using your Bike skill with modifiers for Bike stunts.If youre doing tricks that require you to jump up on the bike then the connection may get broken.If the wires are too long then they get tangled in the chain, sproket etc... not trying to disuade you just giving you something to think about
Whoops, apologies for not making myself clear. At this point I'm definitely in. I would NOT have written all that backstory just to drop out now. =) I will have a character to you in a couple days, do you have a deadline? Sorry if that wasn't clear, hope that clarifies my commitment. I'm looking forward to playing in this game!
Acutally, those exact scenarios crossed my mind. That's why Im thinking of getting more "balance" cyberware, than the VCR. I was thinking about the jumping up on the bike, and doing that could lead to a nasty spell of dumpshock should the wire get yanked. Besides, as a ganger, I think Id have a hard time justifying a lot of tech gear.
Besides, not having it leaves essence free for later to get it, should we go that way... and I have to say... there's something classy about having a guy who can drive like a bat out of hell without a VCR.
Now I just have to choose a bike. Rapiers are so overdone. Blitzens are good, but it's a BMW. That leaves what, the Aurora? I have to check my books. Anyone have a quick rundown on the options out there until I can get my RBB and R3 out?
Besides, not having it leaves essence free for later to get it, should we go that way... and I have to say... there's something classy about having a guy who can drive like a bat out of hell without a VCR.
Now I just have to choose a bike. Rapiers are so overdone. Blitzens are good, but it's a BMW. That leaves what, the Aurora? I have to check my books. Anyone have a quick rundown on the options out there until I can get my RBB and R3 out?
Glad to hear it WinterRat, I really like the concept.
Mugzy, there are varients of the rapier in rigger 3. Never discount a vehicle by its looks or if its common....especially if it isnt stock.
Mugzy, there are varients of the rapier in rigger 3. Never discount a vehicle by its looks or if its common....especially if it isnt stock.
Just to add my 50'da cent on fuhok's vain attempt at civility. I agree with Hobb... I thought at first Fuhok was some slat on profanity.. Like F' U ok...
Kung-fu though ah? Cool, whats it mean?
I now decline the insult above, you have grown up... Or at least getting rusty in your insult ((repit'ior)) Didn't have my dictionary handy for that word.. So I give you free reign to correct it.
Kung-fu though ah? Cool, whats it mean?
I now decline the insult above, you have grown up... Or at least getting rusty in your insult ((repit'ior)) Didn't have my dictionary handy for that word.. So I give you free reign to correct it.
The First is quickly approaching, and on the First i will be starting the IC thread. On the thread i'd like, through the use of spoilers your character sheets. I want to begin the campaign on the fifth ( earlier if i get everyone) i think we're ready for this crazy life.
I'd like to see your concept Mugzy
I'd like to see your concept Mugzy
fu hok sing ying kuen. if I tell you what it mean then you will Know the secret to my kung fu.
ha.ha.... I'll show you the begining it is very useful in certain situations.
ha.ha.... I'll show you the begining it is very useful in certain situations.
don't worry cyd we'll let you slide on the french being that your english is not so good.
claws in ladies, claws in
Just to build more on the personality of the "homicidal" troll, Legion, so to maybe curb some of the monster comments, here goes.
The tale of legion’s life would suggest the creation of a demon, but his light hearted approach to things has helped squelch the jaded heartless killer image that seems to loom over his head. Sure he is violent, and sure he has absolutely no problem killing people, but he has a very unexpected sense of humor, and is pretty nice unless he's got business with you. Most people don't see this side of Mitch, only really his family, his gang, sees this. He has a habit of calling people he "needs" to be interacting with "squishy", this has almost sent those with him into great fits of laughter, while at the same time scaring the hell out of the poor guy he said it to.
He learned to read from his mother, since he never really attended school, due to metahuman prejudice, and avidly reads anything he can get his hands on, from war and piece to chicken soup for the metahuman soul. He may not have any formal education, but that does not make him dumb, he is extremely intelligent for a troll and even for another metahuman. He, despite this, still likes to let people think he’s oafish and as a result he has surprised more than a few people with his intellect. In his spare time, contrary to popular belief(and he’s not going to say anything different), he does not spend his time feasting on the bones of the innocent, but rather painting and reading. His paintings are very dark social commentaries that he sometimes sells under the alias, John Farson, a name he picked up from an eighty year old Stephen King book, and has had minor success. His painting, entitled “Corporate Blood”, depicting a few wageslaves beating up some innocent child sold for almost 10,000 nuyen and is hung in a human rights group headquarters, if they found out that a “blood thirsty ganger” painted the piece they’d probably burn it. Enjoying all types of books, Mitch is never in short supply of things to read, and he will occasionally go to a book store in Fort Lewis, to pick up some reading material.
He likes to help his fellow gangers anyway he can, not that many take him up on it. He has sort of a drinking problem, not anything serious enough for good ol’ AA but enough to get him a PI or ten. His love for canibus is matched only by is old cell mate, Denni, and they can often be found in Denni’s van “smoging” it out.
The tale of legion’s life would suggest the creation of a demon, but his light hearted approach to things has helped squelch the jaded heartless killer image that seems to loom over his head. Sure he is violent, and sure he has absolutely no problem killing people, but he has a very unexpected sense of humor, and is pretty nice unless he's got business with you. Most people don't see this side of Mitch, only really his family, his gang, sees this. He has a habit of calling people he "needs" to be interacting with "squishy", this has almost sent those with him into great fits of laughter, while at the same time scaring the hell out of the poor guy he said it to.
He learned to read from his mother, since he never really attended school, due to metahuman prejudice, and avidly reads anything he can get his hands on, from war and piece to chicken soup for the metahuman soul. He may not have any formal education, but that does not make him dumb, he is extremely intelligent for a troll and even for another metahuman. He, despite this, still likes to let people think he’s oafish and as a result he has surprised more than a few people with his intellect. In his spare time, contrary to popular belief(and he’s not going to say anything different), he does not spend his time feasting on the bones of the innocent, but rather painting and reading. His paintings are very dark social commentaries that he sometimes sells under the alias, John Farson, a name he picked up from an eighty year old Stephen King book, and has had minor success. His painting, entitled “Corporate Blood”, depicting a few wageslaves beating up some innocent child sold for almost 10,000 nuyen and is hung in a human rights group headquarters, if they found out that a “blood thirsty ganger” painted the piece they’d probably burn it. Enjoying all types of books, Mitch is never in short supply of things to read, and he will occasionally go to a book store in Fort Lewis, to pick up some reading material.
He likes to help his fellow gangers anyway he can, not that many take him up on it. He has sort of a drinking problem, not anything serious enough for good ol’ AA but enough to get him a PI or ten. His love for canibus is matched only by is old cell mate, Denni, and they can often be found in Denni’s van “smoging” it out.
ah...warmth and personality
Much like Van Gogh..only you chop off someone elses ear
Much like Van Gogh..only you chop off someone elses ear
it's always nice to know that the killer troll has a sence of humor especially with this gang
don't kill me your bike might brake one day
if any one is wondering about my character since i only gave you a tid bit i will give a post later i'm still working oout the bugs
but boy is he gonna come in handy
but boy is he gonna come in handy
Well the Rastafaria' can run people around when they break down.. that is if you don't mind "Second hand smoke" and Live Chickens... 
as long as there not being choked
| QUOTE (fuhok @ Mar 30 2005, 09:14 PM) |
| fu hok sing ying kuen. if I tell you what it mean then you will Know the secret to my kung fu. ha.ha.... I'll show you the begining it is very useful in certain situations. |
Aha, I see a disciple of the 'kick them in the crotch until they fall down' school of kung fu.
Survivor has a bike skill of three, but he doesn't own a bike (alas, only being able to have 5,000 starting resources). He used to have the sweetest Dodge G6000 you ever did see, but some one rigged it up to go ka-boom!
And Survivor can't pull his claws in. They're non-retractable.
Just for review, I'm including his character sheet as it currently stands below. I don't think that I'm going to need to make anymore changes.
Survivor 'Nisha'
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Dane might be able to steal you one cheap. and paint it for just a little more
and thanks for telling everyone the secret to my kung fu
and thanks for telling everyone the secret to my kung fu
Just thought it'd be polite to give your chummers a word of warning, so they all wouldn't grab their groins and pass out when you start laying into people with spikey steel shin guards. 
your such a friend
Would it be possible to get a 'Who's who' of some of the major characters in our world? Just a list with a sentence or two of description will be great, particularly of our own gang members and any significant enemies we should probably know about. Just wondering.
I got so’m people wan’tin ta’ ride wit’ me. Well I côn give ‘ya a taste o’ da’ rastafri’s ride, so ya’ can a’ve dem’ same pic’tures dat’ fill me own 'ead. Wen’ 'ya t’ink o de’ sled’, dis’ is wha ja’ get.
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Shilanwe Felif Corp. Appraiser
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Sorry 'bout the delay, had no books at work, so I couldn't work up anything concrete until now.
I'm hitting severe writer's block as far as a neat story goes, but I have a solid concept and history now, and can hit the 20 Q's. I have a history, but I just can't put it in words right now. My brain is simply dead.
I have a sheet pretty much ready to go pending a few questions that I'll PM to you Hobbe, regarding vehicle customization.
I hope this turns out okay, if more is needed in this department immedately, let me know and I can get it together. Its a little fragmented and 'rabbity' but I hope its at least coherant.
But here we go
I do hope that's enough for right now. Im in the process of building my bike still. But I have the char sheet most of the way done.
Questions/Concerns, or general "What the hell are you thinking?" posts?
I'm hitting severe writer's block as far as a neat story goes, but I have a solid concept and history now, and can hit the 20 Q's. I have a history, but I just can't put it in words right now. My brain is simply dead.
I have a sheet pretty much ready to go pending a few questions that I'll PM to you Hobbe, regarding vehicle customization.
I hope this turns out okay, if more is needed in this department immedately, let me know and I can get it together. Its a little fragmented and 'rabbity' but I hope its at least coherant.
But here we go
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I do hope that's enough for right now. Im in the process of building my bike still. But I have the char sheet most of the way done.
Questions/Concerns, or general "What the hell are you thinking?" posts?
And to you Winter... Herald Yarland (Hênni to some) Yardy to most but a Rastafarian to all. If ya' already read the post on his ride, fear not he is just as eccentric in person as the thing's he aquires.
In the gang he is your's and all's spiritual adviser, and a firm practitioner of the Divine art. With " dem' bones " he can tell you more then ya even know about yourself. And others to boot there pasts, there futures and the life they lead now. The only catch is he costs for that service, so if you want to know when Dane's next big project is due... or when you will get that promotion, or worst your death. Just stop by and ask just remember to stock the Nuyen. He can tell you other things as well though if you don't want to pay the hefty fee's... Like if Survivor lied when he poured your drink and said there was only about one ounce of liquor in it. Aura reading is cheap, he can do that to.
In the gang he is your's and all's spiritual adviser, and a firm practitioner of the Divine art. With " dem' bones " he can tell you more then ya even know about yourself. And others to boot there pasts, there futures and the life they lead now. The only catch is he costs for that service, so if you want to know when Dane's next big project is due... or when you will get that promotion, or worst your death. Just stop by and ask just remember to stock the Nuyen. He can tell you other things as well though if you don't want to pay the hefty fee's... Like if Survivor lied when he poured your drink and said there was only about one ounce of liquor in it. Aura reading is cheap, he can do that to.
Clarification to Sandoval's earlier comment about how most gangers are people who think they're bigger than they are and what not.
Think of it this way. Gang asks for protection money, guy gives it to them because he recognizes that's how biz goes, gang leaves. Lee has no problem with that.
What he has a problem with are those who'd then smash up the shop or mess with the guy or his place after he's paid them. To him, that's idiotic and uncalled for.
Smashing him or his place up if he refuses to pay is fine, there's an order to how things work in life and that is the way things go on the gang's turf. But messing with the people on your turf unnecessarily is just inefficient and stupid.
That's what I was referring to about him protecting the innocent. It doesn't mean that there aren't rules that people have to follow (like paying their 'protectors'), but if the gang wouldn't let other gangs come in and trash their turf, why are they trashing their own turf? It makes no sense, and that's the whole, 'don't be a moron who thinks they're all that and makes idiotic decisions' thing.
Does that make a bit more sense?
BTW Hobbe- I'm an accountant in the closing crunch of tax season, so I might not have a character to you until the weekend. Hope that's ok? If not, let me know, but I thought we were starting on the fifth, so if you want to start the first, I'm going to have to rush. Just let me know what's up.
Think of it this way. Gang asks for protection money, guy gives it to them because he recognizes that's how biz goes, gang leaves. Lee has no problem with that.
What he has a problem with are those who'd then smash up the shop or mess with the guy or his place after he's paid them. To him, that's idiotic and uncalled for.
Smashing him or his place up if he refuses to pay is fine, there's an order to how things work in life and that is the way things go on the gang's turf. But messing with the people on your turf unnecessarily is just inefficient and stupid.
That's what I was referring to about him protecting the innocent. It doesn't mean that there aren't rules that people have to follow (like paying their 'protectors'), but if the gang wouldn't let other gangs come in and trash their turf, why are they trashing their own turf? It makes no sense, and that's the whole, 'don't be a moron who thinks they're all that and makes idiotic decisions' thing.
Does that make a bit more sense?
BTW Hobbe- I'm an accountant in the closing crunch of tax season, so I might not have a character to you until the weekend. Hope that's ok? If not, let me know, but I thought we were starting on the fifth, so if you want to start the first, I'm going to have to rush. Just let me know what's up.
Got you covered Winter, we'll start on the 5th and, great idea on posting the cast of characters. I will get on that.
Great read on Lee....the Zen of street life. I like the character, much like a Samurai of old.
Great read on Lee....the Zen of street life. I like the character, much like a Samurai of old.
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