I have way too much hair to not shower daily. Ick.

So is this a near confirmation of the next few hours?

No. It was a "I'm still working on it, and still waiting to hear back from other people [who have very good things to be doing this Friday night -- and I'd much rather be there than here.] so it will be finished when it's finished."

There was no hidden meaning or doublespeak.

What that means is, everyone here is waiting on him, and he's waiting on other people.

And he's getting the short end of the stick because it's Friday night, he's working, while the other people are out doing what people are supposed to do on Friday nights (have fun), and the people here are hounding him.

Man do I know how that feels.

Not with game writing or .PDF creation and fanatical message board members of course. But I know how it feels.

::offers moral support::

Winter

Good luck Adam, I was working Friday night, will be working this Saturday morning and afternoon as well so I'm with you in spirit. Maybe when my work is done I'll have a PDF to read

::cheer::

My work starts when his work ends, so I hope he gets it done soon but not until the morning.

~J

Sad but true

So just what would a Captain Chaos costume look like? I suddenly get the image of a bunch of widely varied physical types dressed as pseudo-Neos all standing in line. And it hurts to visualize a bearded Danny Devito dressed like that. Thanks a lot guys! Where is my icepick?

I will miss that lingo if it goes away.

Okay...the index for the SR4 BBB has been made available at shadowrunrpg.com.

If I have a copy of SR4 BBB, hard or digital, I've already got an index. If I don't have the BBB, then I've got no use for its index.

My words exactly. Why wasting precious time with the publication of the *** index - when there is neither the pdf nor an available version of the hardcopy...
Why wasting time creating it when you can make an update for the pdf initially released without?
Ah, what am I talking about, I suppose my sedativa (SR4-Agression and Depression) are wearing out

As soon as either the pdf or a hardcopy version is available to the public - I fully understand and appreciate publishing the index. Until that joysome day I must say: It's ridiculous.

At this point will check on Monday. However if its not out by Tuesday night am thinking I will just wait till the hard copy shows up at the local store. Either that or just continue with, the now, complete 3rd edition rules. See ya all Monday if my players don't drive me nuts with questions about 4th edition settings.

Well, if you're into paranoid thinking (and of course that wouldn't be anyone here this whole pdf delay+delay+? thing could be a viral marketing scheme. First of all, one could wager that the extremely devoted minority of SR fans that tends to gather at Dumpshock is much more resilient than casual fans. In other words, they're more willing to ultimately shrug off disappointments because they like SR.

So, the announcement that the pdf will be out a full month early is made. Expectant fans line up on the release date only to be told to come back tomorrow. Viral stage 1: this mix of annoyance and now heightened anticipation affects social behavior enough that, the next day people are explaining to their friends that they can't concentrate because they can't wait to get the pdf.

The next day Adam informs people that he just couldn't finish it in time. But there will be copies at Gencon, which is teh now! Viral stage 2: fans that are even more annoyed, but also have even more anticipation, rush off to Gencon. SR4 quickly sells out.

After Gencon, Adam casually mentions that he thinks the PDF will be ready on Friday. Again people line up, and they've told more friends (who have maybe also told friends.) Viral stage 3: The PDF isn't up, but there's an exciting new announcement about Fanpro's exciting new product lineup! Holo Streets and a free Shadows PDF book! Of course there's a new rather unimportant segment of SR4 up on the website, too. The extreme fans are now more than a little annoyed, but they, and many others who wouldn't normally be, are surprisingly informed about Fanpro's new product lineup.

Then the pdf comes out. People grudgingly fork over their money and go away for a bit. They read the book, like it, and mostly forgive Fanpro. Net result: the word about SR4 has been spread to more than just the faithful at the cost of lessened fan trust in Fanpro's release dates. When the the hardbound books make their way to a larger chain like Borders (if they do), someone who might not otherwise have known about SR will notice and maybe buy it.

Wouldn't that be an interesting marketing experiment?

Anyway, I don't think this is what happened. I just found this more entertaining than doing my Physics homework. There are flaws in this rationale, but, hey, being paranoid is fun. All in all, I expect this more from big video game companies with huge PR departments (where several lawyers proofread all press releases.)

*bump*

Lets see, do we need ettiquite or negotiations to lower the avalability of a hugely desired object?

How about:
"Please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, pretty-please. Can i have the PDF?"

So what's our target number.........I mean threshold we need to hit for that test?

Well, first we need someone with less cyberware to role, and then we really should try to have our face use friends in high places

Well I just created an account and decided to "track this topic" from my email. Now all I have to do is completely forget about the pdf until I receive the "It's finished and released to online shops now!!" Message. Have a nice day.

No soup tonight?

Not a question of when will the PDF come out but will it have corrected info as compared to the hard copy?

I think it's about time for a status report. While I don't expect another release date we are nearing 2 weeks after the original release date and it would be nice to know where we stand on getting the pdf done and up for sale.

<Fizzygoo spins in shock and delight, slapping his hand to his head>
There's a .pdf coming out?! When's it gunna be released?
<Realizing that someone is about to cast Turn to Goo, on the Goo, he dissolves himself through his self so as to go count pennies as his meager wealth>

As a teaser they released the Index. YOu can find it on www.shadowrunrpg.com on the main page as of today.

I stand by my original prediction: it'll be released tomorrow (Aug 30).

tick-tick-tick-tick-tick....

yesterday, Spookymonster said :

My vacation to New Orleans is ruined. =( I need that PDF. I don't wanna work when I should be drunk!

For those who are waiting for the PDF and check here periodically, here is a link to what would have happened if World War II was an online game:

On-LIne World War II

Spookymonster were is my PDF? Just kidding. Seriously though to the powers that be, a update would not go amiss at this point.

Ya... People here are getting jitters.. for lack of reading the SR4 Rules...

Heya.. First post... simply to pass time before i can get my hands on a SR4 book /PDF or paper, anything... i need my SR4 Fix...