-Nyx-
Apr 12 2010, 09:25 PM
QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Apr 12 2010, 12:01 PM)
Secret Service, FBI, CIA, NSA, Homeland Security, yada yada yada...
America has so many police/inteligence agencies it is hard to keep track of them all
Fortunately... I'd say, all those agencies running around and... doing... well, "things"... is the only thing that keeps them all in check, since they have so many other suspec... "foreign" agents to look after...
nemafow
Apr 13 2010, 12:02 AM
QUOTE (JM Hardy @ Apr 10 2010, 03:33 PM)
Let me check on that and get you some info by Monday.
Jason H.
Hi Jason, any additional information?
JM Hardy
Apr 13 2010, 12:19 AM
QUOTE (nemafow @ Apr 12 2010, 07:02 PM)
Hi Jason, any additional information?
Yes--as Stephen posted earlier, we are expecting the books to arrive in the warehouse tomorrow. We'll have more concrete information then, assuming things work as planned. If the delivery schedule once the books have arrived does not work for you, you can PM me about canceling your order and I'll get the information where it needs to go.
Jason H.
Tanegar
Apr 13 2010, 02:09 AM
How soon after the books' arrival will they ship? Is there any chance I might have mine by my birthday on the 22nd?
nylanfs
Apr 13 2010, 02:18 AM
QUOTE (JM Hardy @ Apr 12 2010, 07:19 PM)
Yes--as Stephen posted earlier, we are expecting the books to arrive in the warehouse tomorrow. We'll have more concrete information then, assuming things work as planned. If the delivery schedule once the books have arrived does not work for you, you can PM me about canceling your order and I'll get the information where it needs to go.
Jason H.
How about if it would be quicker if I drove to Fort Wayne and picked my copy up at the warehouse?
JM Hardy
Apr 13 2010, 02:33 AM
QUOTE (Tanegar @ Apr 12 2010, 09:09 PM)
How soon after the books' arrival will they ship? Is there any chance I might have mine by my birthday on the 22nd?
I don't know the timing for certain, but I'll be checking on that.
Jason H.
Method
Apr 13 2010, 02:42 AM
QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Apr 12 2010, 06:14 AM)
They know we are on to them....
Wait, I thought they were on to us? Oh man, I'm freaking out!
nemafow
Apr 13 2010, 03:16 AM
QUOTE (JM Hardy @ Apr 13 2010, 10:19 AM)
Yes--as Stephen posted earlier, we are expecting the books to arrive in the warehouse tomorrow. We'll have more concrete information then, assuming things work as planned. If the delivery schedule once the books have arrived does not work for you, you can PM me about canceling your order and I'll get the information where it needs to go.
Jason H.
Thanks for the update.
I have a question though, my LE is in an order that includes Vice. Now I beleive Vice is still -on hold-, so that means my LE won't ship, how do I go about getting Vice removed from the order? (should I just send you a PM in this siutation like you suggested) I see people have been having trouble contacting battleshop with orders ect, so who in your opinion is the best person/way to contact someone and get this resolved? I don't want to wait for the issues with Vice to subside and have my LE not delivered.
Please correct me if I'm incorrect about Vice though.
JM Hardy
Apr 13 2010, 03:21 AM
QUOTE (nemafow @ Apr 12 2010, 10:16 PM)
Thanks for the update.
I have a question though, my LE is in an order that includes Vice. Now I beleive Vice is still -on hold-, so that means my LE won't ship, how do I go about getting Vice removed from the order? (should I just send you a PM in this siutation like you suggested) I see people have been having trouble contacting battleshop with orders ect, so who in your opinion is the best person/way to contact someone and get this resolved? I don't want to wait for the issues with Vice to subside and have my LE not delivered.
Please correct me if I'm incorrect about Vice though.
Hopefully the issues with Vice will be resolved before the LEs go out. But go ahead and PM me--I'll check on the order and provide more information that way.
Jason H.
Method
Apr 13 2010, 04:39 AM
Jason: could you post any info you get here as well? I suspect there are others in that situation (SR4LE + Vice order).
JM Hardy
Apr 13 2010, 04:44 AM
QUOTE (Method @ Apr 12 2010, 11:39 PM)
Jason: could you post any info you get here as well? I suspect there are others in that situation (SR4LE + Vice order).
Absolutely.
Jason H.
nemafow
Apr 13 2010, 04:52 AM
QUOTE (JM Hardy @ Apr 13 2010, 01:21 PM)
Hopefully the issues with Vice will be resolved before the LEs go out. But go ahead and PM me--I'll check on the order and provide more information that way.
Jason H.
Thanks.
I might wait till we get a firm ETA on LE's before I go about getting Vice removed, if there is a possibility of the Vice situation being rectified.
Thanee
Apr 13 2010, 06:57 PM
Eventually they will arrive... still anxious to get ahold of my copy.
Bye
Thanee
The_Vanguard
Apr 13 2010, 09:32 PM
Thanks for all the effort for keeping us up to date. I really appreciate it.
The_Vanguard
Apr 13 2010, 09:32 PM
Thanks for all the effort for keeping us up to date. I really appreciate it.
Lithium
Apr 14 2010, 01:46 AM
I'm not sure of the time difference between the warehouse and Newcastle, Australia. It is close to midday here on the 14th April.
So.... have they arrived at the warehouse yet?
Bull
Apr 14 2010, 02:37 AM
QUOTE (Lithium @ Apr 13 2010, 08:46 PM)
I'm not sure of the time difference between the warehouse and Newcastle, Australia. It is close to midday here on the 14th April.
So.... have they arrived at the warehouse yet?
YOu guys are something like 16 or 18 hours ahead of us. I'm in the same time zone as teh warehouse, and it's 10:30 at night here
Lithium
Apr 14 2010, 02:58 AM
Thanks Bull, I think that means you (and the warehouse) are 14 hours behind me.
The delivery was due at the warehouse sometime earlier today (your time)?
Zolhex
Apr 14 2010, 05:06 AM
It was said sometime the 12th we are now on the 14th still no news.
Bull
Apr 14 2010, 05:39 AM
@Lithium: Wish I knew.
They were due to arrive there today, according to the message Bishop posted. Hopefully they did get in. And Hopefully Jason will be able to post more info tomorrow.
@Casazil: Bishop gave us an update on the 11th stating that the books were supposed to be in the Warehouse earlier today (Tuesday the 13th).
And 1 AM on the 14th doesn't count as the 14th. It's still the 13th for half the country, and still counts as "Tuesday" for most folks who haven't been to bed yet
Bull
Lithium
Apr 14 2010, 06:00 AM
@ Bull - Go to bed!
JM Hardy
Apr 14 2010, 12:26 PM
I've got a query in, I'll let people know as soon as I hear anything.
Jason H.
Jhaiisiin
Apr 14 2010, 04:27 PM
Rule of the night shift. The next day doesn't start until after you've slept.
WinterScale
Apr 14 2010, 08:13 PM
QUOTE (JM Hardy @ Apr 14 2010, 05:26 AM)
I've got a query in, I'll let people know as soon as I hear anything.
Jason H.
Query faster!
nemafow
Apr 14 2010, 11:27 PM
Okay I ran my fortnightly session last night, and a player that works at the FLGS said he had received an email/letter/call (I dont remember which) from his suppliers saying that their LE orders were put on hold, due to the recent going ons with Catalyst, and will be till its sorted out.
Now fortunately my order is directly through Battleshop.. Am I (and I'm sure many other dumpshockers) affected, or is this an isolated issue?
Dixie Flatline
Apr 15 2010, 04:14 AM
QUOTE (Caadium @ Apr 11 2010, 10:29 PM)
This makes me feel very comfortable with out national security. "Hey look, there's something about this container that is calling for us to x-ray it, should we do that here in LA?" "Nah, put it on a train, send it across the country, and then do it in New York."
Since it went from LA before heading east there is a very good chance that it passed by the tracks a mile from my place. So close, yet so far! Now it has to go to NY, then back to Indiana, then to who knows where, so it can get back to me in California.
So I was right in my mental picture of the books passing straight by the distribution point only to be bounced back again.
God I love being cynical.
JM Hardy
Apr 15 2010, 04:22 AM
QUOTE (nemafow @ Apr 14 2010, 06:27 PM)
Okay I ran my fortnightly session last night, and a player that works at the FLGS said he had received an email/letter/call (I dont remember which) from his suppliers saying that their LE orders were put on hold, due to the recent going ons with Catalyst, and will be till its sorted out.
Now fortunately my order is directly through Battleshop.. Am I (and I'm sure many other dumpshockers) affected, or is this an isolated issue?
The LEs should not be on hold. I can't explain the actions of different distributors, though.
Jason H.
nemafow
Apr 15 2010, 04:49 AM
QUOTE (JM Hardy @ Apr 15 2010, 02:22 PM)
The LEs should not be on hold. I can't explain the actions of different distributors, though.
Jason H.
Okay, thank you for your response.
Lithium
Apr 15 2010, 05:05 AM
Jason,
Could you kindly advise whether the shipment made it to the warehouse on Tuesday (as expected by BishopMcQ and yourself)? If so, when are orders (particularly those orders placed through the BattleCorp shop) likely to be sent out?
With thanks,
Li7hium
Adam
Apr 15 2010, 05:12 AM
I doubt any consumer orders will go out until at least next week, given that once they hit the Fort Wayne warehouse, a portion of the books then need to be shipped to Seattle, unpacked, enveloped, etc.
Tycho
Apr 15 2010, 12:34 PM
Rumors are that the LE are still in costums. Reason is unknown, maybe CGL cannot pay the costum toll or there is an investigation againt CGL so that their assets are being hold.
cya
Tycho
JM Hardy
Apr 15 2010, 12:36 PM
I'm checking on the status and will let people know as soon as I have information.
Jason H.
JM Hardy
Apr 15 2010, 04:24 PM
The LEs have made progress. I'm told definitive information will be posted by Randall today or tomorrow. I will bug him to make sure that happens.
Jason H.
MindandPen
Apr 15 2010, 04:25 PM
Will the hardcopy be the same as the PDF? I ask because I noticed that AH has a story on his site (
Happy Trails) that appears in the PDF version of the book. Given some of the issues involved, did that survive to print?
-M&P
JM Hardy
Apr 15 2010, 04:40 PM
QUOTE (MindandPen @ Apr 15 2010, 11:25 AM)
Will the hardcopy be the same as the PDF? I ask because I noticed that AH has a story on his site (
Happy Trails) that appears in the PDF version of the book. Given some of the issues involved, did that survive to print?
-M&P
I believe so. SR4A payments have been made, so there were no issues about copyright withdrawals or contract terminations that affected the book.
Jason H.
Dixie Flatline
Apr 15 2010, 08:27 PM
QUOTE (Tycho @ Apr 15 2010, 04:34 AM)
Rumors are that the LE are still in costums. Reason is unknown, maybe CGL cannot pay the costum toll or there is an investigation againt CGL so that their assets are being hold.
cya
Tycho
What source is that? It sounds like cynical speculation. Not saying you aren't reporting what you heard, but I question the source.
wusselpompf
Apr 15 2010, 08:33 PM
QUOTE (Dixie Flatline @ Apr 15 2010, 10:27 PM)
What source is that? It sounds like cynical speculation. Not saying you aren't reporting what you heard, but I question the source.
take a guess
http://tgdmb.com/viewtopic.php?t=50989&...a2f915a367e2b65I can't link the exact post on the page, you'll have to find it yourself
here's the quote:
QUOTE
Here's the deal: the Limited Editions exist. They were printed and they were shipped. There is no reason that they should not be in peoples' hands already.
They have been locked in customs for some time. More than a week. There is now open speculation as to what the fuck has happened to them. Theories include "IMR is flagged by the FBI" and "IMR is flagged by Homeland Security" and "IMR has lost its business license" and "IMR has had inventory seized by the IRS." As you can surmise, most of the speculation tends to run towards the "Loren Coleman is in trouble with the government" what with all the stealing and the fact that the government isn't releasing a shipping container full of Catalyst stuff.
quick edit:
well, I guess that this is Tycho's source.
nylanfs
Apr 15 2010, 08:58 PM
QUOTE (JM Hardy @ Apr 15 2010, 12:22 AM)
The LEs should not be on hold. I can't explain the actions of different distributors, though.
Jason H.
I would guess that the FLGS had only ordered copies of the newer books (maybe a smattering of the old books as well) and since the majority of the new books are on hold they are holding the entire shipment, including the LE's. But that would just be a guess on my part.
BishopMcQ
Apr 15 2010, 11:28 PM
I have been told that the LEs are in the warehouse. Definitive information should be coming from Randall as Jason posted above. The normal process would be:
-- the books arrive in the warehouse via container (T day)
-- the books are unloaded and sorted (T+3 days)
-- the books get shipped to the CGL office for BattleShop pre-orders (T+8 days)
-- the books are received, packed up individually, and shipped out (T+ 12 days)
-- customers receive their order (T+ 13-19 days based on locality and shipping method)
Dixie Flatline
Apr 16 2010, 05:13 AM
QUOTE (wusselpompf @ Apr 15 2010, 12:33 PM)
take a guess
http://tgdmb.com/viewtopic.php?t=50989&...a2f915a367e2b65I can't link the exact post on the page, you'll have to find it yourself
here's the quote:
quick edit:
well, I guess that this is Tycho's source.
Finally found it.
It's interesting who made that post. Filtering out speculation from what sounds reasonable, indexed against my experiences with a company severely in debt and unable to make payroll, and my guess is that the funds weren't there to pick up the crate of books.
If they're at the warehouse now, my shot-in-the-dark guess is because someone threw down an AmEx and paid for it to be delivered.
I guess we'll find out in the next day or two what the hell is going on, won't we?
I'm curious what the LE run was anyway. I know FFG does a 500-1000 book LE run, but those things cost like 2-300 bucks.
Bull
Apr 16 2010, 06:36 AM
I'm not positive, but I *think* someone said in one of the other threads 1500. The SR3 and SR4 LE's were both limited to 1000.
Tanegar
Apr 16 2010, 06:57 AM
QUOTE (BishopMcQ @ Apr 15 2010, 06:28 PM)
I have been told that the LEs are in the warehouse. Definitive information should be coming from Randall as Jason posted above. The normal process would be:
-- the books arrive in the warehouse via container (T day)
-- the books are unloaded and sorted (T+3 days)
-- the books get shipped to the CGL office for BattleShop pre-orders (T+8 days)
-- the books are received, packed up individually, and shipped out (T+ 12 days)
-- customers receive their order (T+ 13-19 days based on locality and shipping method)
So, that's a "no" on having mine for my birthday. ::sadpanda::
Lithium
Apr 16 2010, 06:54 PM
QUOTE (JM Hardy @ Apr 16 2010, 02:24 AM)
The LEs have made progress. I'm told definitive information will be posted by Randall today or tomorrow. I will bug him to make sure that happens.
Jason H.
So, the official word from Randall is?
Werewindlefr
Apr 16 2010, 11:55 PM
QUOTE (Tanegar @ Apr 16 2010, 01:57 AM)
So, that's a "no" on having mine for my birthday. ::sadpanda::
That's a "no" on having mine at all.
Jason, could you please tell me if there are options for cancelling an order? Or at least delaying it by 3 months?
JM Hardy
Apr 17 2010, 12:24 AM
QUOTE (Werewindlefr @ Apr 16 2010, 06:55 PM)
That's a "no" on having mine at all.
Jason, could you please tell me if there are options for cancelling an order? Or at least delaying it by 3 months?
Yes, there is. Could you PM me information about your order so I can get it to the right people?
I'm sorry this. I know the delay has been unacceptably long.
Jason H.
Tanegar
Apr 17 2010, 02:24 AM
At least we finally have a light at the end of the tunnel. And I got a free PDF (I used that very nice $10 discount on the Eclipse Phase book/PDF combo).
Dixie Flatline
Apr 17 2010, 03:10 AM
QUOTE (Tanegar @ Apr 16 2010, 06:24 PM)
At least we finally have a light at the end of the tunnel. And I got a free PDF (I used that very nice $10 discount on the Eclipse Phase book/PDF combo).
At this point the light is either the day, or a train.
How did you get a free PDF?
Tanegar
Apr 17 2010, 03:30 AM
QUOTE (Dixie Flatline @ Apr 16 2010, 10:10 PM)
At this point the light is either the day, or a train.
How did you get a free PDF?
Two or three months ago, CGL sent out a coupon code for $10 off a BattleShop order to people who had preordered the SR4A LE, by way of apologizing for the delay. Like I said, I bought the Eclipse Phase book/PDF combo (the EP PDF being only $10 rather than $15 like other PDFs), so I essentially got a free PDF of Eclipse Phase to pass around to my friends, plus the lovely dead-tree edition for my shelf (and hopefully eventually to actually play with).
Dixie Flatline
Apr 17 2010, 09:05 AM
QUOTE (Tanegar @ Apr 16 2010, 08:30 PM)
Two or three months ago, CGL sent out a coupon code for $10 off a BattleShop order to people who had preordered the SR4A LE, by way of apologizing for the delay. Like I said, I bought the Eclipse Phase book/PDF combo (the EP PDF being only $10 rather than $15 like other PDFs), so I essentially got a free PDF of Eclipse Phase to pass around to my friends, plus the lovely dead-tree edition for my shelf (and hopefully eventually to actually play with).
Ah... I had ordered too recently to get the coupon.
EP looks very interesting. I might buy the dead tree version when it gets back into print. I love sci-fi settings, and Traveller is great, but it has a very distinct "60's"-esque hard sci-fi vibe to it.
Adam
Apr 17 2010, 11:18 PM
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