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Zyerne
Fallout 3 worked the same way as I recall. You could get Ranger Armor and Eugene that way, rather than just one of them.
Stahlseele
QUOTE (Zyerne @ Nov 13 2010, 01:08 PM) *
Never really liked Energy Weapons in Fallout 3, much more of a Small Guns and Ranger Armor type.

The Gauss-Rifle is an Energy-Weapon in FNV.
And it's single handedly the best damn long range weapon you are ever gonna get.
With a DPS closer to 500 than to 400 . .
And fort short distance work, there's the Alien Blaster with DPS closer to 600 than to 500 . .
Critias
QUOTE (Zyerne @ Nov 13 2010, 07:08 AM) *
Never really liked Energy Weapons in Fallout 3, much more of a Small Guns and Ranger Armor type.

My outfit of choice in Fallout 3 was Ranger Armor, Sheriff's Hat, Sunglasses, and any gun that went "dakka dakka" or "bang" when I pulled the trigger (normally a Chinese Assault Rifle, but often a Hunting Rifle).

And that was before I moved to Texas. wink.gif Now I hear New Vegas has an actual Cowboy perk I can take? Hurry up, Christmas, and I'll be in my bunk! love.gif
Stahlseele
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Hurry up, Christmas, and I'll be in my bunk!

Creep O.o *snickers* ^^
Zyerne
For me it was Chinese AR in open terrain, SMG to the face in close quarters.
Stahlseele
Yah, the 12,7mm SMG is quite deadly . . but it REALLY is a spray and pray weapon . . Even the Minigun has less spread i think <.<
Karoline
Reminds me of starting a fight in New Reno (or whatever that first slaver's den was called). If you were on the half of the map that had all the druggies, it'd take like 5 minutes between turns because everyone was on jet and so would shamble slowly around with their 20ish AP. Was crazy annoying.
Stahlseele
yah, that's why VATS is optional now.
but i think you could force real time combat in F² too, in the options somehow . .
Of course, that made the game hellishly difficult . .
nezumi
QUOTE (Zyerne @ Nov 12 2010, 11:43 PM) *
Are people playing the PC version? I'm intending to get for myself as a christmas present and I'm wondering if there's any issues I should be aware of.


I'm running PC. It crashes if I alt-tab at the wrong time (especially while in VATS or zoomed). I've also had a weird error where it thinks I'm clicking, but I'm not. Easy to get around though - hold the mouse button down and act normally.

Definitely go with PC. The Mods are fantastic. I've only done a few, like slowed down the clock so night and day don't zoom by so much, and allowed more companions. I had a fantastic street fight with four people on my side and eight on the other. Really felt like the chaos of combat, with bullets flying everywhere.
Zyerne
I had the alt-tab problem in Fallout 3. As I recall, making sure there was another program open to alt-tab to, rather than going to the desktop, tended to cure it. No idea if that'll work for NV though.
Stahlseele
Fallout belongs on the PC, end of story <.<;,
Zyerne
And is cheaper. Don't know why, not gonna complain.
Wounded Ronin
QUOTE (Karoline @ Nov 13 2010, 03:34 PM) *
Reminds me of starting a fight in New Reno (or whatever that first slaver's den was called). If you were on the half of the map that had all the druggies, it'd take like 5 minutes between turns because everyone was on jet and so would shamble slowly around with their 20ish AP. Was crazy annoying.


That was the highlight of every game for me...kicking off the New Reno Genocidal Mass Slaughter in every game by whacking a mafia boss and then running like hell into a competitor's casino and hiding behind a guard there.
Karoline
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Nov 13 2010, 03:48 PM) *
yah, that's why VATS is optional now.
but i think you could force real time combat in F² too, in the options somehow . .
Of course, that made the game hellishly difficult . .

Fallout Tactics had real time, don't think F2 ever did.
Stahlseele
hmm, maybe i'm getting things mixed up here, but i barely played tactics, while i played F² religiously for quite some time O.o
Karoline
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Nov 14 2010, 05:27 AM) *
hmm, maybe i'm getting things mixed up here, but i barely played tactics, while i played F² religiously for quite some time O.o

I'm 99% sure that it was introduced in tactics, because I so clearly remember that they did it poorly and made some perks and AP in general pointless. I'm sure if you go to GameFAQ.com and look up a Fallout Tactics guide, near the start it'll say 'one of the biggest changes from the older version of Fallout is the addition of a real time mode.'

Edit: Well, didn't find a guide that said that, but I can find no occurrence of CTB in any of the fallout 2 guides.
Zyerne
Fallout wiki seems to confirm.,

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..Instead, Fallout Tactics focuses on squad-based combat and introduces near real-time combat, called "continuous turn-based" by the developers..


Also notice there's a Fallout MMO scheduled for release in 2012
Doc Chase
We'll see about the MMO. Bethseda and Interplay have been fighting in court over that for over a year now.

And yes, Fallout 2 had the exact same system as the original did. Tactics added the realtime.
Wounded Ronin
QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Nov 14 2010, 01:10 PM) *
We'll see about the MMO. Bethseda and Interplay have been fighting in court over that for over a year now.


This crap should just be settled in the Thunderdome. Judicial combat....think of how much public money we'd save!
hobgoblin
QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Nov 14 2010, 06:10 PM) *
We'll see about the MMO. Bethseda and Interplay have been fighting in court over that for over a year now.

And here i thought interplay had been belly up for a long time. Undead corporations, even worse then zombie hordes...
Karoline
QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Nov 14 2010, 12:38 PM) *
This crap should just be settled in the Thunderdome. Judicial combat....think of how much public money we'd save!

Two Lawyers walk in.. one Lawyer walks out.

At least it would justify their massive fees wink.gif
Zyerne
Looks like they almost went belly up at the end of '06 but selling the Fallout rights to Bethesda in '07 saved them.

Atari now owns a significant amount of Interplay, between that and recently formed Interplay Discovery, hopefully they'll stay afloat long enough to get Fallout Online out the door.
StealthSigma
QUOTE (Karoline @ Nov 12 2010, 11:50 PM) *
Some people seem to be having some trouble. I've had it crash a couple times, but I'm running on a laptop that just has issues sometimes and has also crashed on Civ V a few times. Other than that and it being somewhat slow (once again, blame my laptop, not the game) it works well.


A Bethesda game being a Bethesda game. That's all.

Basically, you choose between more stability and more customization. Comparing FNV and Oblivion on the PC to F3 on the PS3... I can honestly say that I had fewer crashes on the PS3, but that was before some of the patches. The game got a bit sluggish when I had a lot of litter lying around, but that was that. Oblivion, and FNV, have had a lot more crashes, but that 3rd person mods make up for it along with the ability to make your own personal vault.

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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Nov 13 2010, 03:42 AM) *
Only in Anime of all kinds Laser-Weapons build up with an impressive glow and soundeffects . .


And physics defying effects like bending, in space, with no obviously strong gravity fields around.

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QUOTE (Critias @ Nov 13 2010, 02:23 PM) *
My outfit of choice in Fallout 3 was Ranger Armor, Sheriff's Hat, Sunglasses, and any gun that went "dakka dakka" or "bang" when I pulled the trigger (normally a Chinese Assault Rifle, but often a Hunting Rifle).


Ranger Armor, Lucky Shades, and Three-Dog's Doo-rag was my go to outfit in F3. Althought I did ditch the armor for the Chinese Stealth Suit.

I also made heavy use of the Xuanlong Assault Rifle (Unique Chinese Assault Rifle).

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QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Nov 14 2010, 12:38 PM) *
This crap should just be settled in the Thunderdome. Judicial combat....think of how much public money we'd save!


The US inherited English Common Law, while it has been banned in England, trial by combat is still technically a viable option in US law since the English ban on it came after the United States was established. No one has ever attempted it and undoubtedly it would get tossed out and promptly banned if someone should try it, but it's nice to imagine. smile.gif
Voran
I'm glad I went the PC route for this game. Patches, official or otherwise, seem to occur much quicker on PC. Plus community mods. The only time this doesn't seem to hold true is when games are suspiciously locked to any tinkering. In which case, they tend not to do so well: Aliens vs Predator (the newest one) and Alpha Protocol, for example. I have both, played and finished both, but have no reason to play them again for at least a couple years. There's no official support. There's no community ability to add things or address balance issues the official support guys couldn't be bothered with.

As I've noted in my fable 3 thread, my current game is flat out stuck until they patch it. Since you only have 1 save, if you're stuck, you're stuck. Eta on patch? Weeks.

For new vegas, within the first week of play there were loads of community mods to tailor my experience. Appearance tweaks (since for as good as they are, for some reason the Fallout guys can't make attractive female character models/faces), better looking armor (but not god-armor), even tweaks for the hardcore experience related to food/water/sleep.

In a similar note, STALKER, a game that came out years ago is still viable cause of community level support and mods. Deus Ex was like that too, but not so much with DX2. The purpose of a mod-able game is to keep interest in your original game until your sequel can come out.

Unless your business model is just churn out sequels without really changing things, Madden, WWE games, etc.
StealthSigma
QUOTE (Voran @ Nov 15 2010, 07:41 AM) *
Unless your business model is just churn out sequels without really changing things, Madden, WWE games, etc.


Madden is weird in that aspect. Yes the game doesn't change much (mostly just a graphics refinement and updated rosters), but every once in awhile they come out with a new big feature. Franchise mode, rookie mode, etc. Eventually that series is going to reach a point where it pretty much mimics the NFL as much as possible and new features to the game will only come about when there's a "new feature" added to the NFL. Otherwise it's just roster updates from there on out.

If you want a game franchise that -really- embodies that... Guitar Hero.
Karoline
As I recall, there are already people using Madden to predict the winners of the football thing, and actually finding it to be highly accurate.

Remind me when I make a successful game to immediately release a sequel that has no changes at all, just to see how many people buy it.
Zyerne
Or better still release a sequel that is actually the first game, but "fixed".
Doc Chase
QUOTE (Zyerne @ Nov 15 2010, 04:18 PM) *
Or better still release a sequel that is actually the first game, but "fixed".


You know, a fan release did that with Fallout 2. No Mutants Allowed should still have the files.

It put in everything the original version was supposed to have, and IIRC it nearly tripled the size of the game.
KarmaInferno
QUOTE (Voran @ Nov 7 2010, 02:52 AM) *
I'm using the 'reinforced chinese stealth suit' mod, i find it to be the best looking armor in the game.

Okay, I just got this and it looks really cool.

http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35130



-k
Doc Chase
I'll have to pick it up, along with some of the other armor reskins. I'm not impressed with how the reinforced combat armor mkII looks. Reinforced leather, on the other hand, looks pretty damn good.
Fix-it
must-have mod for me is radio extender. soundtrack gets repetitive after a few hours.
Doc Chase
God, yes. After hearing 'Big Iron On His Hip' four times in a row, I just want something new.
Voran
I believe I used the DC emergency radio extender, which was also compatible with vegas. It may not have quite the same vegas vibe, but was a good mix of the Fallout 3 music genre, plus some fun emergency broadcast testing messages. Has its own dj too.
Wounded Ronin
LOL, I started it up and it crashed in about 15 seconds.
Stahlseele
new record!
Wounded Ronin
You know, the only other game that crashed this frequently for me was Invisible War, which my system had abundant resources to run. I basically got through that game by save monkeying. I wonder if there is something these 2 games have in common that could be the reason for all these crashes.
nezumi
QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Nov 16 2010, 10:47 PM) *
LOL, I started it up and it crashed in about 15 seconds.


There should be an achievement for that.

What are your system specs? What version of Windows are you running?
Wounded Ronin
QUOTE (nezumi @ Nov 17 2010, 10:22 AM) *
There should be an achievement for that.

What are your system specs? What version of Windows are you running?


I'll post the specs this evening...Windows is XP pro SP 2.
Doc Chase
I don't understand it - but it sounds like the OS and the program just aren't jiving.
Wounded Ronin
Okay, here's some info from my msinfo

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Item Value
OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name SAGE-41C12F0F29
System Manufacturer MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD
System Model MS-7501
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 67 Stepping 3 AuthenticAMD ~2993 Mhz
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 67 Stepping 3 AuthenticAMD ~2993 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. V1.3, 5/28/2008
SMBIOS Version 2.5
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)"
User Name SAGE-41C12F0F29\Sage
Time Zone Pacific Daylight Time
Total Physical Memory 2,048.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 1.05 GB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.95 GB
Page File Space 3.85 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys
....


[Sound Device]

Item Value
Name Realtek High Definition Audio
Manufacturer Realtek
Status OK
PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0888&SUBSYS_14627501&REV_1000\4&5C010EE&0&0301
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\rtkhdaud.sys (5.10.0.6215 built by: WinDDK, 5.88 MB (6,164,584 bytes), 1/1/2002 1:12 AM)

[Display]

Item Value
Name NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275
PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_05E6&SUBSYS_0E0619F1&REV_A1\4&92B7792&0&0010
Adapter Type GeForce GTX 275, NVIDIA compatible
Adapter Description NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275
Adapter RAM 896.00 MB (939,524,096 bytes)
Installed Drivers nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version 6.14.12.6099
INF File oem31.inf (Section005 section)
Color Planes 1
Color Table Entries 4294967296
Resolution 1280 x 1024 x 60 hertz
Bits/Pixel 32
Memory Address 0xFD000000-0xFDFFFFFF
Memory Address 0xD0000000-0xDFFFFFFF
Memory Address 0xFA000000-0xFE9FFFFF
I/O Port 0x0000D800-0x0000D87F
IRQ Channel IRQ 18
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\nv4_mini.sys (6.14.12.6099, 9.18 MB (9,623,680 bytes), 12/5/2007 1:41 AM)



Need anything else?
KarmaInferno
Eh, I've been getting intermittent crashes even on Windows 7.

I'll have to have some monitoring running in the background next game session to see if I can discern a cause.

I just discovered the, er, cosmetic "body" mods for FO:NV. Some are... very interesting.




-k
StealthSigma
QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Nov 18 2010, 01:46 AM) *
I just discovered the, er, cosmetic "body" mods for FO:NV. Some are... very interesting.


Someone added a Khajiit model, didn't they?
Stahlseele
what kind of interesting body mods are there? O.o
Karoline
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Nov 18 2010, 07:56 AM) *
what kind of interesting body mods are there? O.o

I'm guessing the kind that remove underwear.
Stahlseele
On the Supermutants and ghouls probably . .
StealthSigma
QUOTE (Karoline @ Nov 18 2010, 08:04 AM) *
I'm guessing the kind that remove underwear.


Oh, those models are really useful for making new meshes for armor and clothing.
Stahlseele
QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Nov 18 2010, 02:26 PM) *
Oh, those models are really useful for making new meshes for armor and clothing.

yeeaah . . suuree . .
and here you thought a double positive did not make a negative ^^
StealthSigma
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Nov 18 2010, 08:55 AM) *
yeeaah . . suuree . .
and here you thought a double positive did not make a negative ^^


Naked models w/ genitalia != underwearless models
nezumi
WR, have you tried updating (or downgrading) your drivers? Your soundcard driver especially looks quite old. Your video card driver also is pretty dated. Honestly, I'd consider doing a full system tidy-up - HDD scan, virus scan, memory test, windows updates (including optional updates), driver updates, just because you should be doing that anyway, and it eliminates possibilities. Next to that? Try turning off unnecessary programs and devices.

It's a longshot, but I don't see anything inherently odd about the setup you posted (not that I'm an expert).
Doc Chase
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Nov 18 2010, 01:56 PM) *
what kind of interesting body mods are there? O.o


I've seen quite a few mods that let you choose pretty much anything you want to play. People are putting elves, hobbits and other races in as playable by the Courier. Still others do remove the 3rd layer armor for 'realism' or creating one's own armor mesh, but on the upswing it does let one add visible tattoos to the body. There's a lot of armor and clothing additions as well as reskins for existing armor and even companions - though I haven't gotten that one to work yet.

I just added a bunch of hair and eye packs to the game so I can choose styles that don't completely suck. I keep browsing the armor reskins to see if I can get a decent Combat Armor replacement, but haven't found anything I like yet. The trouble with some of these armor packs is that they're just adding more suits of armor to the game and it requires people to add shops/quests in order to access it - which reminds me, need to get the RCA mod so I can work those out.

I've also seen mod packs that add 'not a Vault suit' for starter clothing, something that a Wastelander would actually wear.
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