That, and the game is, as stated by the developer(s), not even in beta. It's still alpha.

There are bugs a plenty, and balance issues galore. Not being able to spend all that money (and risk having it stolen) is likely one of them. Ideally money one gets via char gen would be untouchable from said penalties (but is always spent first for gear).

Cliffhanger got their rights from Smith & Tinker, and are still in production for Shadowrun Online.

Again, it's not Mr. Weisman that you have to worry about, it's Microsoft.

Talk to the guy about getting a sub-license. Seriously. Worst that can happen is he'll say "no".

Or, y'know, spend a lot of time, effort, blood, sweat, and tears on something only to have it yanked away, just like the previous coupla of unlicensed projects. Pretty much everyone warned them of the possible hammer coming down too, but they ignored it. Didn't work out so well for them.

I know I sound like a wet blanket, but I wouldn't even bother posting if I didn't care.




-k

Of course you're right, KarmaInferno. We realise we can have the rug pulled out from under us. Perhaps it is time to send that e-mail, indeed.

But really, is there any way I can tell if my Armor spell is still working?

Also, can I only cast non-combat spells in my safehouse?

Apologies, I overlooked the question. Yes, you can check your character info and see the buffs and debuffs section. Also, under the information section where it says "Armor" it should say your armour and then your buffed armour in parentheses.


No, non-combat spells can only be cast from the safe house (for now.)

Thanks.

I know the shaman is not optimal, but I'll keep trying to make it work.

Is there anyway I can lower the target numbers for spells?
Or any chance of finding/buying a sustaining focus?

That's the biggest problem for magic users right now, their target numbers are ultra high and the drain usually necks them. I wish I could give them some more love in terms of sustaining foci and such, but I can't just yet. It's on my list, though.

OK, so I had 7 stun and 5 physical.
I cast heal and this is what happened:

[2012-04-10 11:12:10]
Cast Heal (5)
Sorcery: 6(9): 1 (2, 5, 2, 14, 8, 5)
Drain: 6(5): 4 (2, 5, 5, 5, 5, 3)
Drain damage: 2Ms -> none

My essence is 6 so the TN should be 4, meaning I got 4 successes. But all of my damage is healed.

That's correct. You cast the heal at force 5 so 5 boxes of physical are healed. Perhaps I'm not sure what you're trying to tell me.

Sounds like he is sayin it healed the 7 stun AND the 5 phys?

Ah, in that case, that's certainly a problem. It depends a little bit how long he waited with casting the spell since with a high willpower or body the stun damage takes mere minutes to heal. There are many things that require my attention regarding magic users, I'll have to add this to my list.

The skills that are not yet implemented are clearly marked. I went with A attributes, B skills, C race (Elf), D resources, E magic. I was basically able to max out all of my useful skills, and I had a really high Quickness. With a smartgun system and an Ares Predator, I cleared 10 ghouls pretty easily. To offer some constructive criticism:

1. Please implement support for moving on the tactical map with the arrow keys; it was really repetitive to keep clicking on those arrows.
2. I didn't see an interface on the tactical screen for reloading; is the idea that I'd just go back to the Safehouse to do that? Did I just miss something on screen?
3. In the event that you guys get a Cease and Desist, I think it would be a shame to throw away all of this work. Even without the SR license material, a cyberpunk-themed Roguelike would be awesome to have.

1) WASD works as well
2) Click your Icon and you get a reload option
3) agreed!

Stupid different versions of the game!
You're right. I was confused. No it didn't heal my stun. Everything worked like it's supposed to.
THanks.

I know he isn't. But I really hate people saying "Well, you don't make X, so you're unqualified and incompetent to comment on X."



I didn't say it to you at all, DV8. I said it to Stahlseele, because he busted out the "you don't do X, so you're not qualified to talk about the product of X" argument.

It's kinda like saying that you can't hate the ending of Mass Effect 3 because "How many pieces of interactive fiction with multiple endings have YOU written?"

You can't criticize my character! How many pixie death-eater heavy weapon toting shaman cyberzombies have YOU created?!

If your Pixie Death Eater heavy-weapon guy/girl cyberzombie shaman also a pornomancer? I'm having a hard time figuring out how it talked Lord Voldemort into letting it join his ranks.

Nahh... caffineomancer...

As does R to reload your weapon, and H, to hold your action!

Three. Yours was the worst I've seen

Registered under "Old Man Jones", got the registration e-mail, but it won't let me past the login.





-k

probably does not like spaces in the name . .

I noticed the damage on bone lacing doesn't seem to work, or atleast not show in any info I can see.

there seems to be nothing wrong with the account. Want me to reset the password for you?

Known issue. Will be fixed.

It appears your system doesn't like spaces in the account name.

I registered a new account with no spaces, that one's working.



-k

Hmmm, seeing as how we've got several accounts with spaces I think it may have been something else. Glad it's working now.

And it's fixed.

So far as I can tell the spell Armor doesn't work. I can't find anything that shows it's working, and my armor still says Armor clothing and 3/0 So I keep getting my butt kicked by ghouls.

So I decided to make a spell caster, learn Armor 3 from Mojo Flux and I went to my spells section in my safe house. I cast the spell, got a success on the sorcery test and suffered a little drain. You can see that in the first screenshot.

Then I went to the armor page and I saw that without wearing any armor, I had a ballistic 3 and impact 3. See the second screenshot.

Then I went to the character information page and saw the same on the armor stat and I saw the armor spell among my buffs. See screenshot three.

Then I went to Neon Blight, got the first Ghoul Den mission and went inside. Waited for a ghoul to come and kick my ass and recorded the first attack in the combat log on the info tab. It says I was resisting with my 5 body dice against TN 3. The ghouls have a strength of 6, minus the 3 impact armor the Armor spell gives me, is TN 3. See screenshot four.

I think everything is working. If you see different things, please send some similar screenshots to shadowrun.corrosion@gmail.com and I'll get it cleared up as soon as possible.

I would suggest, if this is an alpha test, that the timers on regaining points and healing be sped up a bit.

Gathering test data will be kinda slow if the testers can only play 15 minutes at a time at most a couple times a day.

This of course should be coupled with character wipes at appropriate intervals.




-k

I noticed that was quick, thank you. I agree with the speeding up of the AP recovery for test purposes. Maybe 5 minute intervals?

I'm curious what you guys are doing to run out of AP during the day? Is it from healing yourselves after getting shot up by the gang or ??? The only times I have run out of AP are healing myself (when I had a low biotech skill) and when raising a new skill with a pile of stored karma.


Unless you're spending all the AP with Tempered Steele for cash I suppose...

PvP and the arena.

PvP, Arena, and making money.

The arena is making money.

Yeah I just do Tempered Steeles stuff too sometimes.

I dunno what I'm doing wrong.

I equip myself with Armor clothing and a Predator pistol, regular ammo. Body 6, Quickness 6, Skill 6.

I walk into that very first mission with the ghouls. A second after entering the building a ghoul pops out of nowhere next to me. Two seconds after that I barely have time to click "attack" and I'm knocked out.




-k

No Stealth-Skill eh old man? O.o

Huh? I thought Cliffhanger were still around doing the browser game

Thats what I heard, atleast.

If you are able to get that sub license and it's official, I would recommend making a kickstarter for it. If it's really just two guys working at this in spare time, if money ever needs to get involved it would be a shame if had to come only from yours guys' pockets. And I'd happily donate some cash towards this product.

Actually, my Stealth is at 6.

Tried going in again and before I get 5 steps a half dozen ghouls swarm me and I get knocked out again. I'm shooting with a silenced Predator but I honestly can't tell if I'm having any effect.

Some sort of visual indicator on the target's graphic that it is damaged would be nice.

Also, I notice that if you get knocked out, heal up and return to the location, you don't appear at the entrance to the building. You appear where you were knocked out. With all the enemies that knocked you out before still there surrounding you.



-k

Heck, if you're gonna inquire about a sub-licence, see if Weisman would be willing to set up a standardized sanctioning system for fan works.




-k

Yeah, I guess that might be easy. Until I've got time to implement that, you could always look at the combat log (located on the tab behind the chat window) while you're in a mission, or by clicking the bomb icon underneath the chat-window when you're outside of a mission.

Okay, I'm going to assume that the Armor spell is functioning but that there's another reason why combat isn't working out for you. Perhaps you're defaulting to your attribute, raising the target number a significant amount, or you've got a low body. I suggest you take a good look at your combat log to see what it is that's happening.

With Pistols Skill of 5 i think i am oneshotting ghouls left and right with my trusty Browning MAX POWER with Smartlink and Silencer . .

You need to wait for the ghouls to load, they seem to take awhile. I take one step, do a wait action, look for ghouls, fire if I see one and repeat the other steps if I dont'. Rushing in gets me surrounded as well.

Okay, I rested and reloaded, clear health and stun, cast Armor, made sure my weapons were equipped and loaded.

Clicked to re-enter the apartment.

Appeared on the map at the point I got knocked out before, in the middle of a pack of ghouls. I took exactly one step, and then I was knocked out again.

Waking up back in the apartment, I have zero health damage and a full stun damage bar.

Character has Body 4, wearing Armor Clothing, with an Armor spell up.

Firing a silenced smartlink Predator with normal ammo, Quickness 6, Pistols skill 6.




-k