Damn, 44 posts... well 45 now, and I wasnt even trying...

Hiya back!
Old man had a few troubles with new tech, but they are solved, now.

With my last IC post, I assume we have discussed everything IC, that we discussed OOC. IIRC, DireRadiant wanted to procede by monday.

I think we had established that Gabe, Mike or Willow (my PC suggests the later) would be leading the negotiation and Cloud & Hikaru (probably one or two of the other top-negotiators, too) would assist. I´d actually suggest Mike and Cloud to assist Willow - Hikaru didn´t say much to Green, yet, and Gabe did not make a good expression with his funny action. I think more then 3 people doing the negotiations, alltough posible by the book, would be inappropriate.

We have decided, IIRC, to investigate this thing for the Hotel (trying to get as much support -maybe favours and payment, too- as possible, without involving the cops).
Dire said we need to decide to emphasize either support or time, so we need to decide, what´s more important. I´d favor support -especilly any information they can give- over time, but we shouldn´t neglegt beeing given more time, just to get a few more bucks out of it.

PS: Everyone who hapens to still have a PM about Si Wu´s background, please send them back to me, as it might hold stuff I had not backed up. Thanks!
Vegas sorry if that PM arrived a dozend times - the 'PM has been sent' page didn´t load correctly and I thought the PM hadn´t been sent - same for amra28.
If you realy did not receive the PM, no big deal, I was just asking to send me back any relevant PMs.

You know as the titular head of the family, the old man should be present at the negotiations. He can introduce Willow as his god-granddaughter and that she will speak on his behalf (if Si Wu has good Cha+Influence or if you don't mind blowing an Edge to boost the initial contact, it would be good, so he can help Willow with the Negotiations). I suggest we have someone (Mike) who can astrally perceive to accompany them. Si Wu doesn't need to actually do anything but look ancient and wise(no problem with that right?)

Just wondering, but Tech vision enhancers dont enhance astral sight right?

I don't think so. And it is Astral Perception, not Astral Sight, but you could try to float it pass DR .

toturi
Sounds good. the social skills are actually in the middle legue (or at least I think so).
god-granddaughter is an adopted granddaughter, right? Don´t have my dictionary handy.

DireRadiant
I asume this still counts as first encounter, no?

Konsaki
Good luck, though I doubt that you´ll come through with it

When I asked the question I already knew to myself that, logicly, tech couldnt help magical sight.
Toturi thought to have a person that could see astral accompany them and then recommended Mike, I went and looked back in the OCC cause I didnt remember anywhere that Mike was an astral awakened.
Thats when I saw a roll for an astral perception test with a 16 dicepool... IIRC, the dicepool is just Intuition+Assensing(+Edge if spent)

Well, the adept power Enhanced Perception gives bonus-dice for regular perception as well as assensing. And he might also have improved ability, so a regular pool of 16 is possible.

Hmm... I didnt consider that... Makes sense though.

Some networking issues at my normal internet access, so I won't be responding as fast as normal.

Posted IC.

OOC you can presume to have had at least 5 or more minutes in which to settle on basic strategy.

I'll need charisma + SKill rolls from the appropriate characters, including teamwork rolls.

Ok, I´ll make the next IC then, I guess. I´ll probably get it up, either in ~3h or else tomorrow morning my time. Stating that I will pick up responsibility as 'head of the family' and decided, we will handle the situation, then say that my god-granddaughter will sattle the details with Ms. Green, or something like that.

Since I will be participating IC, here is my teamwork roll:


2 hits makes 2 bonus-dice for Willow right?

Willow by what name should 'Uncle Wang' introduce you? We could leave names aside, but I think giving one would be better. You may also want to introduce Mike (by name or by mentioning he is your consultant in this matter), so he is propperly integrated into the negotiation-party.

This is Mike's teamwork roll:

Dice: 4 Chrarisma + 4 Negotiation = [4,1,6,5,5,5,1,2] for 4 Hits.
Link to roll: http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=774282

If this is still the same scene do I have to reroll my astral perception check if I want to be watching her reactions on the astral while Willow talks to her?

Oh, and for the record Mike will still be recording all of the negotiations with Mrs. Green with both his eye and ear recorders. It never hurts to have records of these things...

Sorry, double post. DUmpshock seems to be acting up a bit at this moment.

A familiar name for Willow could be Xiao Liu(little willow, the prefix xiao or little is often tagged on to those younger or of a lower rank).

Some Mandarin primers that may be useful
Grandfather - yeye(paternal grand dad), gonggong(maternal grand dad)
suffix Ge/Gor(cantonese) - elder brother - note most triad member address their superiors as XXX-ge/gor
suffix Jie - elder sister

Thanks for the heads up Toturi, I appreciate the info!

I like Xiao Liu actually... it works

I'll try to put together a post tomorrow.. I'm working so much that i'm just beat and brain dead. sorry for dragging this out even longer guys. I promise to be quick about it.

Cool, I edited in the name.
Thanks toturi (Btw, do you playL5R or is the name just coincidence? Was just wondering.)

Singapore Kotei Unicorn Clan Top of Clan 05 and 06 at your service

Been playing since Imperial.

BTW, MK, it is Xiao, not Xaio.

Damn, copy-pasted it from Vegas, because you left no ' ' after the name

Cool. I don´t play the CCG, but am a fan of the RPG - though I get to play it even less often then SR.
My PC Tamerlan was a Unicorn, back when I played in a regular round.
So, make the Khon prowd and crush all the weaklings under your hoves next year!

L5R?

Vegas needs to do Willow's negotiation roll, + 6 Dice for teamwork. Unless I've missed that somewhere.

you haven't missed anything DR, I haven't been able to post it. I'm not home right now which means no CS, books, dice or roll generators.

i'll post the roll and her conversation starter tonight when I'm back at my computer...typing it outon my phone like this message would kill me

You guys with internet phones make me cry... Stuck in a place where the only phones I can buy are in Korean... I dont really have the time or gumption to learn the language either, though I have picked up maybe a R1 in it...

Just 6 more months...

I wonder who is making inquiries so soon. Might be a clue.

double post

Charisma (4) + Negotiations (2) + Teamwork (6) = 12 dice
[6] [5] 3 [6] [6] 1 [6] 3 4 [5] 1 4 Hits:6


Sorry guys, it's been one hell of a day.

IC Post up.

Feel free to post the prior negotiation and puppet Hialry green as you like as long as we end up with the results posted OOC.

Characters may accept or not as they desire. Obviously FOoey is outside, and some PC may very well not want to accept the terms.

This is a good point for a Roll Call.

Anyone not responding can be considered as PC not accepting the terms, accepting the payment and leaving.

If anyone is still in the game, but IC not accepting the terms, they can keep playing by simply being a team member working with the rest, but without the benefits and conditions the Peninsular group required.

Hmm... needing to give Bio data to the group seems a little off to me... I'm leaning on the side of declining their offer of support for that condition.

OOC, you may not want to underestimate the support The Peninsular Group can provide. The closest example I can think of for a lot of these high end hotels is to think about all of the ancillary services a very large Las Vegas Casino does, and might theoretically provide to particular guests.

I'm kind of surprised no one asked to use the green rolls royces.

If anyone wants to make appropriate rolls for analyzing the deal offered, you may make an appropriate roll fo your choice.

Fooey

Ok, DireRadiant. Here is a judge intentions roll (which went rather crappy), to asses what Green herself thinks about the conditions she is proposing.
Then there is an Int+Log roll, to judge the deal, that went quiet well.



OOC, I´m inclined to think the deal isn´t that good, unless Green mentioned that they would provide other assistence if needed (I´m aware that they probably have a lot of clout and contacts, but you did not say they are part of the deal).
I´m not too weary about giving retina and handprints, but ritual samples suck, IMO.

Also, how do you handle negotiations mechanically? Is this the 1st offer, like De Badd Ass suggested, or dos this actually represent the final offer that Green would sattle on, after some back-and-forth negotiating (that´s how I do handle it in my games), which we could either accept or not (except for trading one point for another)?

Everyone should consider one "safe" approach for the Peninsular Group would be to just call KE and turn you all in.

Will the PG eraze our biometrics (or at least say so) and hand back the ritual samples to us after the three days? If so, I´d be ready to accept the deal.

(lol about the gwai lo comment )

EDIT: Everyone still in the com-conference gets this from me:

Sure, I mean if we honor our end of the deal and do our best.

Wu Xian would be willing to give the sample but only with the understanding that we will get the material back.

I'm in.

I'll wait to post IC'ly until everyone has made their decission.