I agree that the size of trolls should be a big fucking deal, and that the system has never seriously accounted for it. I think thats a stronger argument for fixing the system than removing trolls though, even if it just means hashing out a stealth penalty and the modifier to hit them.

Fuchs, what program are you using to generate those?

DAZ Studio

I was wondering.

I wonder who, if anyone, makes the Troll Friendly reinforced toilets? Otherwise I forsee a lot of mess and cracked porcelin from Trolls trying to squeeze into cubicles when nature calls!

Male Races Lineup

Troll and Ork are stockier (10 and 5%). Average relative height for every race (120 cm, 175 cm, 190 cm, 190 cm, 250 cm)

Not the hippest undies in the world but a very cool pic all the same.

nah . . godzilla was the image of royally screwed and hated by society . .
HE was the only male to never have sex but be riddled with children *g*

That's awesome Fuchs, although it makes the advertising phrase "Wait til we get our Hanes on you," sound vaguely threatening.

Female Races Lineup

Again average relative height for every race (120 cm, 175 cm, 190 cm, 190 cm, 250 cm)

i will now mention the fact that rule 34 has it's own page on teh intartswebs without mentioning the actual URL

The idea of "rule 34ing" something is paradoxical, except insofar as making something exist would force rule 34 to apply to it. Presumably hyzmarca is indicating that he has located or produced actual content demonstrating rule 34 with respect to the given item. It's a misleading phrase, but convenient.

~J

Male runner group in the field

Zoom

Female runner group in town

Different perspective

The troll adept does not look that much bigger in those pics, though size stayed the same.

It'd help for perspective if the human (the only one we can relate to) wasn't crouched down in both pics.

As far as I know, you "rule 34 something" when you search for internet porn of it and find it. A confirmation of a secret wish or an illucid fear. However, I know some people use "rule 34" to simply make the statement that there is probably porn of whatever is being discussed. Still other theories indicate that the Matrix is such that merely discussing the posibility of type of porn existing on the internet creates a resonance structure which assures that it already exists. In any case, there actually is porn of Godzilla on the internets, so any definition Rule 34 is, in this context correct.

-Frank

Last illustrations for the thread:

SR Males in various runner gear

SR Females in various runner gear

I've always preferred less cartoony orks and trolls. The ork action figure was what I'd consider the low point. Which what I like about these character models, even if it is just because you didn't have time to dermal and pustule out the trolls.

Attractive trolls? Hell, why not? Not every troll in the world has to be futtbugly. Maybe some are hot, and maybe some are born futtbugly and get an assload of cosmetic surgery for their bat mitzvah present. My next character just might be a troll with the human-looking quality. "I'm ten feet tall, bulletproof and I make it look good, chula."

Well, trolls aren't eligible for human looking since it's about passing rather than being pretty. The whole ten feet tall thing tends to tip people off. There's nothing saying that a troll can't have first impression and be slick enough to make sure most people won't care though.

To be fair, humans aren't allowed to be troll-looking, either.

one COULD Argue with a pretty small Giant(Northern Europe Troll Variant)[why does america not get any troll variants but europe gets them all? O.o]. They look pretty much just like REALLY big Humans O.o
Nu Tusks, no Horns, no Dermal Problems, symmetric face and eyes and natural skin/eye-colour and everything . .

One could likewise argue that if a player can have pretty wide latitude in his or her character's appearance. A beautiful troll, a 7' tall human, a 5' tall ork; why bog down what is essentially a cosmetic/fluff/roleplaying decision?

I did shorten the legs of the dwarves, by about 20% compared to human proportions.

Fixed links:

SR Males in various runner gear

SR Females in various runner gear

Superb work. I should make these into a GM screen. I won't, because I'm busy and lazy, but I should.