I dunno. Not to level a personal attack at anyone (not even Rotbart) but I think the holier than thou vibes were coming from the other side

Anyway, what's this fixation on admission? You won on your point, you don't need people to kowtow to prove it

How did I win? Gymnastics Dodge is officially boostable with a low essences, relatively cheap +3 implant, on top of a Reflex Recorder. Ergo: it is now better than normal dodging, even accounting for specialization (but not accounting for the serious edge case of Move by Wire implants...)

Thus, I lost.

Yes, but you won on your point that it is a pure metagame and makes little phsyical sense, because nobody has been able to offer a rebuttal, even though I gave it a try.

really, this thread is only still alive because we keep responding to one another.

You won the whole gymnastics dodge question with a thunderbolt from the heavens,

I won the 'its all metaphysics because nothing else makes sense' though really I was more after the 'eating crow' bit.

I don't think anyone really cares in the aftermath of various victories, but since it keeps climbing back to the top of the page we keep responding to it like trained monkeys...

*eats a banana*