Character's coming along very well. I had to put the process on pause last night and write up an IC post in Sympathy for the Devil. But I should be finished with this guy in a bit. As long as my 8 week old son remains asleep, lol.
-milk.
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QUOTE (Kerenshara @ Oct 24 2009, 01:23 PM) 
You WILL be allowed to take FREE Knowledge and Language skills equal to [(LOGic + INTuition) x 6].
Is that instead of the [(Intuition + Logic) x3] we normally get at CharGen, or in addition to it?
-milk.
QUOTE (milk ducks @ Oct 25 2009, 11:35 AM)
Is that instead of the [(Intuition + Logic) x3] we normally get at CharGen, or in addition to it?
-milk.
-milk.
I would think its in place of it, and that its also using the Karmagen rules as well.
The 54 I ended up with got me:
3 rating 4s
1 rating 3s
3 rating 2s
1 specialization
Thats seems about par for the course. If its 54 rating points instead of 54 karma that would be a lot...a whole lot more than I could spend.
I'm come to you as the voice of our Lady, KerenShara:
That is [(Intuition + Logic) x6] free karma towards knowledge, not free rating points like in BP creation.
So declares Lady KerenShara
That is [(Intuition + Logic) x6] free karma towards knowledge, not free rating points like in BP creation.
So declares Lady KerenShara
Jordan Oakleaf
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QUOTE (Karoline @ Oct 25 2009, 11:34 AM)
That is [(Intuition + Logic) x6] free karma towards knowledge, not free rating points like in BP creation.
Ah, great. Thank you.
-milk.
Hey, embers, it looks as if you shortchanged Jordan Oakleaf by 4 Karma points. That's another skill!
OK, do me a favor folks. Pop up to post #29 and look for any empty blanks and let me know what to put in there.
I have 10 people and some of them have already given me some great and detailed information, including whole backgrounds.
I want to see where we stand as it is.
Thanks!
I have 10 people and some of them have already given me some great and detailed information, including whole backgrounds.
I want to see where we stand as it is.
Thanks!
Stardust/Male/Human/Counter-magic--protection/Magician/Healing--repair
First post is easier to get to.
First post is easier to get to.
My character is very nearly finished. Took a bit longer than I'd anticipated because KarmaGen allows for much more robust and dynamic skillsets. All I've got left to do is gear, but I've still got over a hundred Karma to work with AND the 50 karma post-gen. Here, I'll go ahead and post the skeleton of the character here, so everyone can have a look at it. It's not set up to be easy to read by anyone but me, lol, but if you can make sense of it, awesome.
Obviously, the character and his contacts will have names at the end, hah. But this should give everyone a very basic idea of who I'm developing.
-milk.
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Obviously, the character and his contacts will have names at the end, hah. But this should give everyone a very basic idea of who I'm developing.
-milk.
Umm.... Wow... is that every skill in the book or something?
Nah.
-milk.
-milk.
QUOTE (milk ducks @ Oct 25 2009, 04:46 PM)
Nah.
-milk.
-milk.
I'm sure pilot aerospace and parachuting are missing, right
QUOTE (Karoline @ Oct 25 2009, 04:49 PM)
I'm sure pilot aerospace and parachuting are missing, right
Funny you should mention.
Really, I'm just trying to be as true to the character as I can be. To me, dynamic, multi-talented characters are more interesting and fun to write for than one-trick ponies with very limited skill sets. Just feels more realistic to me; I mean, I'm a nobody from the middle of nowhere, and I know a whole lot about electronics, repair, musical composition, unarmed combat, breaking locks, first aid and medicine, negotiation, etc. A Shadowrunner has to be all those things and more, you know? So that's how I write my characters.
-milk.
-milk.
Jordan is Melee/Ranged/Infiltration. She can serve as a back-up face, but she wouldn't be great at it.
QUOTE (milk ducks @ Oct 25 2009, 05:11 PM)
Really, I'm just trying to be as true to the character as I can be. To me, dynamic, multi-talented characters are more interesting and fun to write for than one-trick ponies with very limited skill sets. Just feels more realistic to me; I mean, I'm a nobody from the middle of nowhere, and I know a whole lot about electronics, repair, musical composition, unarmed combat, breaking locks, first aid and medicine, negotiation, etc. A Shadowrunner has to be all those things and more, you know? So that's how I write my characters.
-milk.
-milk.
Well, part of the problem is that multiple skills aren't really very well supported with normal BP, and the other part is that you say you have knowledge of these things, but are you sure that your level of knowledge doesn't fall under a 0 skill? I mean unless you've had actual classes or hospital practice, I doubt you have more than a 0 in first aid or medicine. Same with negotiation. Unless you've taken debate classes or are trying to convince dozens of people a day to do things, you still likely fall under a 0 skill.
QUOTE (Karoline @ Oct 25 2009, 05:24 PM)
Well, part of the problem is that multiple skills aren't really very well supported with normal BP, and the other part is that you say you have knowledge of these things, but are you sure that your level of knowledge doesn't fall under a 0 skill? I mean unless you've had actual classes or hospital practice, I doubt you have more than a 0 in first aid or medicine. Same with negotiation. Unless you've taken debate classes or are trying to convince dozens of people a day to do things, you still likely fall under a 0 skill.
0 Knowledge is just common knowledge of people with no overt exposure.
1 Knowledge can represent passing exposure, some personal interest, or the equivalent. (How much High School chemistry do you remember?)
2 Knowledge is going to represent actual focus.
QUOTE (Kerenshara @ Oct 25 2009, 05:29 PM)
0 Knowledge is just common knowledge of people with no overt exposure.
1 Knowledge can represent passing exposure, some personal interest, or the equivalent. (How much High School chemistry do you remember?)
2 Knowledge is going to represent actual focus.
1 Knowledge can represent passing exposure, some personal interest, or the equivalent. (How much High School chemistry do you remember?)
2 Knowledge is going to represent actual focus.
Given that I'm a Chemistry major? Alot
If you ask me how much high school geography I remember... well, I can find all the continents and a few major countries.
QUOTE (Karoline @ Oct 25 2009, 06:03 PM)
Given that I'm a Chemistry major? Alot
If you ask me how much high school geography I remember... well, I can find all the continents and a few major countries.
If you ask me how much high school geography I remember... well, I can find all the continents and a few major countries.
Approximately what you'd expect the general populace to have - 0. Now, if you'd focused on that class and retained detailed information but weren't a specialist, that would be the 1 you'd expect from High School equivalency. That's pretty typical. Level 2 is the kind of thing you'd expect from, say, a minor in Geography.
Screen Name _____ / Character Name / Gender / Race / Main Role / Special / Secondary Role
ravensoracle __ / __ ?_____________ / _Male_ / Human / Infiltration / Mundane / Support & Minor Face
ravensoracle __ / __ ?_____________ / _Male_ / Human / Infiltration / Mundane / Support & Minor Face
QUOTE (Karoline @ Oct 25 2009, 06:24 PM)
are you sure that your level of knowledge doesn't fall under a 0 skill? I mean unless you've had actual classes or hospital practice, I doubt you have more than a 0 in first aid or medicine. Same with negotiation. Unless you've taken debate classes or are trying to convince dozens of people a day to do things, you still likely fall under a 0 skill.
By the time I was 14, I was a 2nd-degree black belt in TaeKwonDo; I competed at both State and National levels (unarmed combat). After that, I basically poured all of my focus into music. I've been in more bands that I can remember, both in America and around the world (artisan). Working on my sound has provided me with a very broad understanding of electronics and hardware, and I've done my fair share of repairing them over the years as well (hardware, software, electronics, industrial mechanic).
I've moved from the States to Australia several times, and we're actually planning on heading back down there in a few months; while I was there, I learned an absolute ton about their culture and their history, and now I'm proud to say that I relate to Australia every bit as much as I do to America (etiquette).
Over the years, I've done a lot of work with computers. I had a job working as the assistant network admin for the county I live in, and went on to install wireless internet for a local provider. I've also done a lot of computer repair for people (again, electronics).
While doing some research for a thief character I was creating a few years ago, I learned a lot, not only about how locks work, but also how to subvert them (lockpicking). I still remember a fair bit about it. Negotiation? Man, I'm a musician. Being in a band means constant negotiation, not only with clubs and whatnot, but also with your bandmates. Artistic differences can be a real bitch. Learning how the people around you think can be really advantageous, you know?
As far as First Aid and Medicine goes, I think I do know a fair bit more than most people; several of my relatives are firemen, and I'm looking into being one as well. In fact, I start my EMT training this Tuesday.
That's just a very brief history of me, personally. And again, I'm just a nobody from the middle of nowhere. If I were a Shadowrunner, who lived on the streets, and who's life depended on having a diverse and powerful skillset, I'd know a hell of a lot more. I would never, ever be happy with a character who only had a dozen or so skills. But that's just me.
-milk.
Sounds cool. The only thing I might counter you on is software skill, as that relates to actually writing programs (Which you may or may not have done). I'd imagine you'd have had to do alot of research to get any skill in actual lockpicking (And likely practice it at least a few times), though I can certainly imagine you got a rank or two of a relevant knowledge skill.
I never got past first degree black belt myself
But look real closely at what you would have.
Unarmed 4
Artisan 3 (Maybe more, I don't know how good you were), you would likely have a specialty here.
Hardware 2 (Music Equipment)
Industrial Mechanic 1 (Electronics)
Etiquette 2 (Australia)
Computer 3
Lockpicking 1
Negotiation 3 (Socializing)
First Aid 1
Medicine 1
And I'm sure a wide range of knowledge skills from mostly 1-3 with a few 4s
One thing to keep in mind is that Shadowrunners aren't runners because they want to be (Usually) but because they have to be. Thus it isn't that Shadowrunners are highly skilled, it is that shadowrunners that have been around for a long time are. I figure a runner with 400 BP represents someone who isn't quite on their first run, but is far from a hardened veteran.
There is a good chance that they came from a bad background, where they didn't have the time and resources to be in a band, certainly couldn't visit other countries to learn their culture, and know enough about hardware to know how to break a maglock properly to get it to open.
And even if the runner came from a 'good' background, a fall from grace sort of guy, keep in mind that work days are far longer in SR than they are now-a-days, and likely pay less, so people have less free time to purse any sort of desires, and less money to chase after any hobbies they might have.
So yeah, you're random guy from nowhere, but you're also very privileged in comparison to most people who live in the SR universe.
You also don't have to limit yourself to an arbitrary maximum of how much you can know either.
Edit: oh, and the reason I listed out your skills was to point out that you have under a dozen or so skills, and then I had intended to go on to point out that someone from SR would actually be quite likely to have a less varied skillset than you would. That point kind of got garbled up there.
I never got past first degree black belt myself
But look real closely at what you would have.
Unarmed 4
Artisan 3 (Maybe more, I don't know how good you were), you would likely have a specialty here.
Hardware 2 (Music Equipment)
Industrial Mechanic 1 (Electronics)
Etiquette 2 (Australia)
Computer 3
Lockpicking 1
Negotiation 3 (Socializing)
First Aid 1
Medicine 1
And I'm sure a wide range of knowledge skills from mostly 1-3 with a few 4s
One thing to keep in mind is that Shadowrunners aren't runners because they want to be (Usually) but because they have to be. Thus it isn't that Shadowrunners are highly skilled, it is that shadowrunners that have been around for a long time are. I figure a runner with 400 BP represents someone who isn't quite on their first run, but is far from a hardened veteran.
There is a good chance that they came from a bad background, where they didn't have the time and resources to be in a band, certainly couldn't visit other countries to learn their culture, and know enough about hardware to know how to break a maglock properly to get it to open.
And even if the runner came from a 'good' background, a fall from grace sort of guy, keep in mind that work days are far longer in SR than they are now-a-days, and likely pay less, so people have less free time to purse any sort of desires, and less money to chase after any hobbies they might have.
So yeah, you're random guy from nowhere, but you're also very privileged in comparison to most people who live in the SR universe.
You also don't have to limit yourself to an arbitrary maximum of how much you can know either.
Edit: oh, and the reason I listed out your skills was to point out that you have under a dozen or so skills, and then I had intended to go on to point out that someone from SR would actually be quite likely to have a less varied skillset than you would. That point kind of got garbled up there.
Kerenshara what are your rules for licenses. Do we need a seperate license for every piece of restricted gear like each firearm or will just a firearms license and a C&C work. I want to make sure I have all of them I need. I am also looking at getting a PI license is that acceptable.
Maybe it would help to list several licenses you see occuring with the different characters as examples.
Maybe it would help to list several licenses you see occuring with the different characters as examples.
Thank you, MilkDucks. That was excellent.
Unfortunately, most of us who play the game and had varied backgrounds couldn't be built with BP without running out of points. *grin* Especially with knowledges.
Unfortunately, most of us who play the game and had varied backgrounds couldn't be built with BP without running out of points. *grin* Especially with knowledges.
QUOTE (ravensoracle @ Oct 25 2009, 07:57 PM)
Kerenshara what are your rules for licenses. Do we need a seperate license for every piece of restricted gear like each firearm or will just a firearms license and a C&C work. I want to make sure I have all of them I need. I am also looking at getting a PI license is that acceptable.
Maybe it would help to list several licenses you see occuring with the different characters as examples.
Maybe it would help to list several licenses you see occuring with the different characters as examples.
OK, folks, since we're well ahead of where I expected to be (It's like you folks are really eager to play or something! I expected this to take weeks to prep!) I guess I should address this issue.
Here is how I am dealing with licenses:
If the rating of your fake ID / license exceeds that of the system making the check, I'm not going to even bother rolling. If it's equal, the situation will merrit. If it's less, then we're rolling dice.
For your edification, I will tell you the following:
A RTG 4 ID is sufficient to open a legit bank account. RTG 6 might as well be the real thing. But if you don't use them regularly (creating a data trail), you need to pay to keep them updated - one of the things that makes a very high-end ID "real" is the data trail that checks out AOK when they look.
RTG 1 is a bus pass.
RTG 2 is casual inspection.
RTG 3 will pass most checks and field checks by Law Enforcement.
As to "licenses", the above guidelines hold. You can get "legitimate" permits for items and attach them to a RTG 4 or higher fake SIN, but then the items are REGISTERED to that SIN.
I only require a Gun Permit and a Carry Conceal permit (for each ID). On other items, it is going to depend. For example, NarcoJetTM requires a license either as a medical professional or a Law Enforcement professional. But that medical license would allow you to buy and posess all medical items. An LE License would give you carte blanche to carry LE stuff. If you have questions, ask me speciffics, but if you use that as a guideline, I think you'll figure it out on your own.
Oh, Cyberware is a separate license, but you have to have the individual (fake?) licenses updated every time you add something new.
All that make sense?
Jordan has a license for each restricted piece of gear she has (a fake license, a real license for an actual SIN is I believe, free?):
Assault Rifle
Heavy Pistol
Sword
Smartlink systems
Gel Bullets
Regular Bullets
I didn't buy a second license for each duplicate of the same type of thing, ie. she is licensed to have regular and gel rounds, I didn't figure she'd need a license for each of the two types of regular rounds, or to own a second pistol. I saw it more along the lines of she is licensed to own Predator IVs, the number of Predators she owns is irrelavant once she is allowed to own one.
Do you have a suggestion as to how I should change that to fit within your way of handling licenses? ie, would a person need to have a license to buy regular ammo and gel ammo give that they already have a license to own a pistol that uses that ammo?
Assault Rifle
Heavy Pistol
Sword
Smartlink systems
Gel Bullets
Regular Bullets
I didn't buy a second license for each duplicate of the same type of thing, ie. she is licensed to have regular and gel rounds, I didn't figure she'd need a license for each of the two types of regular rounds, or to own a second pistol. I saw it more along the lines of she is licensed to own Predator IVs, the number of Predators she owns is irrelavant once she is allowed to own one.
Do you have a suggestion as to how I should change that to fit within your way of handling licenses? ie, would a person need to have a license to buy regular ammo and gel ammo give that they already have a license to own a pistol that uses that ammo?
QUOTE (Kerenshara @ Oct 25 2009, 08:58 PM)
Thank you, MilkDucks. That was excellent.
Unfortunately, most of us who play the game and had varied backgrounds couldn't be built with BP without running out of points. *grin* Especially with knowledges.
Unfortunately, most of us who play the game and had varied backgrounds couldn't be built with BP without running out of points. *grin* Especially with knowledges.
I think contacts are the real kickers.
Mom: 2/6
Dad: 3/6
Sibling: 2/6
That professor that you've spent hours talking to: 3/4
A whole slew of friends 1-3/1-3
Girlfriend/boyfriend/spouse 2/5-6
That one friend that knows -everybody in the freaking world- 6/4
I figure most people could spend most of their 400 BP on contacts alone, nevermind actually having skills.
I'm writing up a character sheet for myself right now, I have 17 skills, though most of them are 1, with about an equal number of 2s and 3s. Sadly I don't think I have anything over a 3. Maybe if I got back into martial arts my unarmed would go from 3 to 4. 134 BP tied up in skills ATM, along with 180 in attributes (Including edge). Need to look over qualities and see what I have.
One more thing:
Rating 5 Licenses are available for "F" items, but you need to talk to me because they're going to be expensive.
If you're thinking Betaware of any kind, a single "Restricted Item" quality will get you as much as you like, representing former special forces or whatever... the price will handle most of the rest of the balance.
If you want Deltaware, talk to me. I might be convinced... assuming you can afford the thing(s).
I also MIGHT be willing to overlook availability on something particular if you have a good enough story behind it... and a contact who might help explain it.
OK, I lied, one FINAL thing: fIREARMS
Some of the firearms will have different numbers. When you're ready to buy guns, talk to me. Essentially, a couple assault rifles do more damage to balance out being otherwise "mediocre" and there are some "medium" pistols and SMGs that have slightly different damage curves. The FN 5-7C is one, as is the FN P-92 Praetor. The notable AR is the FN HAR.
Rating 5 Licenses are available for "F" items, but you need to talk to me because they're going to be expensive.
If you're thinking Betaware of any kind, a single "Restricted Item" quality will get you as much as you like, representing former special forces or whatever... the price will handle most of the rest of the balance.
If you want Deltaware, talk to me. I might be convinced... assuming you can afford the thing(s).
I also MIGHT be willing to overlook availability on something particular if you have a good enough story behind it... and a contact who might help explain it.
OK, I lied, one FINAL thing: fIREARMS
Some of the firearms will have different numbers. When you're ready to buy guns, talk to me. Essentially, a couple assault rifles do more damage to balance out being otherwise "mediocre" and there are some "medium" pistols and SMGs that have slightly different damage curves. The FN 5-7C is one, as is the FN P-92 Praetor. The notable AR is the FN HAR.
QUOTE (Kerenshara @ Oct 25 2009, 09:21 PM)
OK, I lied, one FINAL thing: fIREARMS
Some of the firearms will have different numbers. When you're ready to buy guns, talk to me. Essentially, a couple assault rifles do more damage to balance out being otherwise "mediocre" and there are some "medium" pistols and SMGs that have slightly different damage curves. The FN 5-7C is one, as is the FN P-92 Praetor. The notable AR is the FN HAR.
Some of the firearms will have different numbers. When you're ready to buy guns, talk to me. Essentially, a couple assault rifles do more damage to balance out being otherwise "mediocre" and there are some "medium" pistols and SMGs that have slightly different damage curves. The FN 5-7C is one, as is the FN P-92 Praetor. The notable AR is the FN HAR.
What changes are you making to the FN HAR? It was the AR that I had picked out for Jordan, not that I have any clue on whether any guns other than pistols are of any use.
QUOTE (Embers @ Oct 25 2009, 08:16 PM)
Jordan has a license for each restricted piece of gear she has (a fake license, a real license for an actual SIN is I believe, free?):
A real license of ANY kind is included in the item cost, but requires either a legit SIN or a RTG 4+ SIN to attach to.
QUOTE
Assault Rifle
Heavy Pistol
Sword
Smartlink systems
Gel Bullets
Regular Bullets
Heavy Pistol
Sword
Smartlink systems
Gel Bullets
Regular Bullets
The weapons are all one license to posess and one to carry concealed. Ammunition included. The "posess" is a "background check".
The smartlink, if it's cyber, is your "cyber license". If external, it's under your firearms.
QUOTE
I didn't buy a second license for each duplicate of the same type of thing, ie. she is licensed to have regular and gel rounds, I didn't figure she'd need a license for each of the two types of regular rounds, or to own a second pistol. I saw it more along the lines of she is licensed to own Predator IVs, the number of Predators she owns is irrelavant once she is allowed to own one.
Do you have a suggestion as to how I should change that to fit within your way of handling licenses? ie, would a person need to have a license to buy regular ammo and gel ammo give that they already have a license to own a pistol that uses that ammo?
Do you have a suggestion as to how I should change that to fit within your way of handling licenses? ie, would a person need to have a license to buy regular ammo and gel ammo give that they already have a license to own a pistol that uses that ammo?
Does that help?
QUOTE (Embers @ Oct 25 2009, 08:24 PM)
What changes are you making to the FN HAR? It was the AR that I had picked out for Jordan, not that I have any clue on whether any guns other than pistols are of any use.
Uses sporting rifle ranges, is 7P/-2 Damage/AP. The magazine capacity assumes caseless ammo; reduce to 30 if you want cased ammo.
So if I understand correctly I'd need 2 licenses total instead of 6:
Fake License 4 (Possession - Rebecca Morris)
Fake License 4 (Concealed Carry - Rebecca Morris)
and that would cover the Sword, Assault Rifle, and Predator IV that I associated with that ID? Although I guess I wouldn't need to buy any licenses at all since I could just attach them directly to the Fake SIN since its rating 4, and the Morris ID is a 'Security Consultant' who would have a legitimate reason to have the licenses as they would be tools of her trade.
The other Predator is associated with her main SIN(Legal) (would a non-firearm such as a sword need to be associated with any ID since they are generally interchangeable and indistinguishable?)
Fake License 4 (Possession - Rebecca Morris)
Fake License 4 (Concealed Carry - Rebecca Morris)
and that would cover the Sword, Assault Rifle, and Predator IV that I associated with that ID? Although I guess I wouldn't need to buy any licenses at all since I could just attach them directly to the Fake SIN since its rating 4, and the Morris ID is a 'Security Consultant' who would have a legitimate reason to have the licenses as they would be tools of her trade.
The other Predator is associated with her main SIN(Legal) (would a non-firearm such as a sword need to be associated with any ID since they are generally interchangeable and indistinguishable?)
QUOTE (Embers @ Oct 25 2009, 08:43 PM)
So if I understand correctly I'd need 2 licenses total instead of 6:
Fake License 4 (Possession - Rebecca Morris)
Fake License 4 (Concealed Carry - Rebecca Morris)
and that would cover the Sword, Assault Rifle, and Predator IV that I associated with that ID? Although I guess I wouldn't need to buy any licenses at all since I could just attach them directly to the Fake SIN since its rating 4, and the Morris ID is a 'Security Consultant' who would have a legitimate reason to have the licenses as they would be tools of her trade.
The other Predator is associated with her main SIN(Legal) (would a non-firearm such as a sword need to be associated with any ID since they are generally interchangeable and indistinguishable?)
Fake License 4 (Possession - Rebecca Morris)
Fake License 4 (Concealed Carry - Rebecca Morris)
and that would cover the Sword, Assault Rifle, and Predator IV that I associated with that ID? Although I guess I wouldn't need to buy any licenses at all since I could just attach them directly to the Fake SIN since its rating 4, and the Morris ID is a 'Security Consultant' who would have a legitimate reason to have the licenses as they would be tools of her trade.
The other Predator is associated with her main SIN(Legal) (would a non-firearm such as a sword need to be associated with any ID since they are generally interchangeable and indistinguishable?)
OK, here's the rub:
If the item is registered to two IDs, it's a good idea for both to be fake, neh? Generally, guns aren't registered by serial number unless they're "F" availability.
The damage codes for the Praetor are 4P/-2, and for the 5-7C are 4P/-1.
Heavy pistol range if longer than listed.
Heavy pistol range if longer than listed.
She wouldn't be registering anything to two IDs, she has two Predator IVs, one registered to each ID. Unless you were talking about the sword? If its the sword I can just buy a second easy enough.
Sword just needed a check when purchased, no serial number to register.
please excuse my absence. I got the flu and has run me down. I'm better now after two bags of IV, but i'm going sleep a bit and post in the morning.
JoelHalpern ____ / Mach / Male / Troll / Knife Fighter / Adept / Heavy Weapons
I have him pretty well worked out, with a few details to check, including seeing how badly the gear cost gets out of whack, which will determine whether he ends up with Synaptic Boosters 2, or just 1.
I have him pretty well worked out, with a few details to check, including seeing how badly the gear cost gets out of whack, which will determine whether he ends up with Synaptic Boosters 2, or just 1.
My Magigger has shifted slightly from combat to support.
I can't help but use up a lot of the Karma for extra spells. So if you have any special requests for spells, let me know. I may already have it, but he's there to help you out.
I just need to squeeze in a Sustaining Health Focus for Improved Reflexes since I can't fit an IP increaser with my already 1.0 essence devoted to 'ware.
Lots of Technical skills too. Oh, Kerenshara, if he has Arcana 3 can he create some unique spells? I'm thinking of a few Rigger-specific ones I wanna try out. (Like some kind of Limited Physical Barrier that destroys RFIDs of all kinds for smuggling/stealing stuff.)
I can't help but use up a lot of the Karma for extra spells. So if you have any special requests for spells, let me know. I may already have it, but he's there to help you out.
I just need to squeeze in a Sustaining Health Focus for Improved Reflexes since I can't fit an IP increaser with my already 1.0 essence devoted to 'ware.
Lots of Technical skills too. Oh, Kerenshara, if he has Arcana 3 can he create some unique spells? I'm thinking of a few Rigger-specific ones I wanna try out. (Like some kind of Limited Physical Barrier that destroys RFIDs of all kinds for smuggling/stealing stuff.)
QUOTE (Marwynn @ Oct 25 2009, 11:17 PM)
Oh, Kerenshara, if he has Arcana 3 can he create some unique spells? I'm thinking of a few Rigger-specific ones I wanna try out. (Like some kind of Limited Physical Barrier that destroys RFIDs of all kinds for smuggling/stealing stuff.)
We can talk about it, but you can't target a specific PART of another object with an area spell generally. Pulse already does that...
QUOTE (Kerenshara @ Oct 25 2009, 11:42 PM)
We can talk about it, but you can't target a specific PART of another object with an area spell generally. Pulse already does that...
There's also Interference. Stardust has that.
Here's the character sheet for Stardust. Background material will follow, with descriptions of contacts.
EDIT: fixed count in Knowledge Skills 26 Oct 09
[ Spoiler ]
EDIT: fixed count in Knowledge Skills 26 Oct 09
Lookin' like I'm the only mundane character. Awesome.
-milk.
-milk.
I'm playing a mundane as well. I could get a more flexible skillset by making him a mundane with ware than an adept plus I am working out his background and a mundane seems to fit along better with my thought process.
I was going to play a mundane as well, Magic eats up a LOT of karma. But magical support was needed so I figure I'd try out an old character concept.
The spell I'm thinking of is Physical Barrier but with the Limited Target modifier. The LOS only applies to creating the wall itself, not the things that would impact the Barrier.
The Demolish-line of spells have that problem, it seems. You can create a Demolish RFID area effect spell but some claim that you'll need LOS specifically at an RFID to cast it and destroy it, rather than a target that may possess one or several.
I'll whip up some spells if you don't mind, and see what you think of them.
The spell I'm thinking of is Physical Barrier but with the Limited Target modifier. The LOS only applies to creating the wall itself, not the things that would impact the Barrier.
The Demolish-line of spells have that problem, it seems. You can create a Demolish RFID area effect spell but some claim that you'll need LOS specifically at an RFID to cast it and destroy it, rather than a target that may possess one or several.
I'll whip up some spells if you don't mind, and see what you think of them.
* Screen Name _____ / Character Name / Gender / Race / Main Role / Special ______ / Secondary Role
* BlueMax ________ / Orb __________ / Male __/ Troll / B & E ____ / Technomancer / Driver______
* BlueMax ________ / Orb __________ / Male __/ Troll / B & E ____ / Technomancer / Driver______
Just a quick note on stardust peter, you gave him 66 free karma for knowledge skills, but I only count 60 points worth.
QUOTE (Marwynn @ Oct 26 2009, 01:33 AM)
The spell I'm thinking of is Physical Barrier but with the Limited Target modifier. The LOS only applies to creating the wall itself, not the things that would impact the Barrier.
"Limited Target" could be a complete target like: cars, metahumans (generally or by subrace), Comlinks, Bladed Weapons and so forth. But you I would say that you couldn't do things like Brains, Cyberware, Eyeballs, Genitalia, Etc. So the only way Limited Physical Barrier: RFID tags would work is against stand-alone tags, say on a roll of stickers that hadn't been applied yet, or that had been blown as an aerosol onto somebody (as a "vacuum" essentially), but once INTEGRATED into an item, they are CONSIDERED that item. This, Limited Physical Barrier: Cybereyes would not work on IMPLANTED cybereyes because they are "metahuman" once implanted. Same thing for targeting the "Brain" since it's a part of the whole. A Focus can be targeted because though it is attuned to a person, it always remains a separate physical device.
Make sense? This is how it is conceptualized and it's always worked that way going way back. In fact, I would say that Limited Physical Barrier: Metahumans wouldn't work against somebody fully enclosed inside a vehicle or container, but WOULD work agains somebody in a convertible (with the top down) or a motorcycle.
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The Demolish-line of spells have that problem, it seems. You can create a Demolish RFID area effect spell but some claim that you'll need LOS specifically at an RFID to cast it and destroy it, rather than a target that may possess one or several.
This is subject to the same limitations listed above. A camera, while mounted to a wall, is still a camera, so you could Demolish the camera. If the RFID is visible (pretty tiny) on the surface of something (as opposed to integrated internally) then your spell would work fine. If for some reason, there was an external RFID label, like we're seeing a lot of today as rhey are introduced, that label is intended as a carrier for the RFID, so it would COUNT as an RFID. Actually, in that case, I'd say even the wrapper got toasted by the spell.
That help?
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I'll whip up some spells if you don't mind, and see what you think of them.
You're welcomd to do so, I will have a look at whatever you come up with.
OK, so of 10 interested parties (still missing detailed info on a few):
Race
3 Humans
0 Dwarves
2 Orks
1 Elf
2 Trolls
2 Unspecified
Gender
2 Females
4 Males
4 Unspecified
Magic / Resonance
2 Mundanes
2 Adepts
2 Mystic Adepts
2 Magicians
1 Technomancer
1 Unspecified
Roles
Healing would appear to be a hole for the moment.
You're still light on decking, generally, from what I've been given.
You're excellent in close combat and passable in ranged combat.
You seem to have transport covered for now.
You've got infiltration and B&E pretty well covered.
You should be AOK in the Face department.
You could use a scrounger, though one of the generalists may have that set.
You could use a Build & Repair person, though one of the generalists may have that set.
Race
3 Humans
0 Dwarves
2 Orks
1 Elf
2 Trolls
2 Unspecified
Gender
2 Females
4 Males
4 Unspecified
Magic / Resonance
2 Mundanes
2 Adepts
2 Mystic Adepts
2 Magicians
1 Technomancer
1 Unspecified
Roles
Healing would appear to be a hole for the moment.
You're still light on decking, generally, from what I've been given.
You're excellent in close combat and passable in ranged combat.
You seem to have transport covered for now.
You've got infiltration and B&E pretty well covered.
You should be AOK in the Face department.
You could use a scrounger, though one of the generalists may have that set.
You could use a Build & Repair person, though one of the generalists may have that set.
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