As far as I understand Shadowrun Returns is set 2050ish. That means you have to take some locations of the list. Chicago doesn't become Bug City before 2055. Old Berlin is too crazy, can't be done. Nope. The new setting is much saner, but that's 20 years later. Neo Tokyo is just Tokyo, which admittedly would still make it Tokyo. But metahumans were totally disenfranchised back then to the point where such characters would have to have their own game. Well, of course if you get a little more handwavy with the canon or simply set a different time frame these problems could vanish.

Hmm. I'm a little worried now given how focused they are on tablets....

They are (if I'm getting the concept right) building something akin to the classic top-down or isometric RPG/strategy games, like their already released Something Steam Pirates...that kind of design should work great of both tablets and PC.

Demonseed, do Steam Crimson Pirates have interesting gameplay aside from missions/battles ? How is its "rpg" side ?

By all we hear til now, this Shadowrun is looking more as a "Tactics" type of game with some RPG elements thrown in than the contrary.

I dont see any problem with what you described here. On the contrary, all locations sound more fun to play exactly because of the more "wacko" vibe.

If any of them were more realistic - and all looked like each other - whats the fun ?

Sounds "fun," doesn't it?

Like one of the Tirs, or London... Or Rio.

They are (if I'm getting the concept right) building something akin to the classic top-down or isometric RPG/strategy games, like their already released Something Steam Pirates...that kind of design should work great of both tablets and PC.

Yeah, that's the impression I get. I have Crimson Steam Pirates on the iPad and it's a great game. Very well designed and good looking; it gives me high hopes for Shadowrun Returns.

Having played the game, can you shed light on what they might mean by "contextual gameplay"? I figure radial menus with different content depending on where you click, or does CSP have something else than that?

Sox IS awesome . .
It's basically our own little corner of the Fallout Universe right there . .

It's a post apocalyptical nuclear wasteland where formerly 2 great nations had cities . .
There are mutants there. Glowpunks. Smugglers. Raiders. Robots. Enclaves and Bunkers . .
That's close enough to Fallout for me . .

It's a post apocalyptical nuclear wasteland where formerly 2 great nations had cities . .
There are mutants there. Glowpunks. Smugglers. Raiders. Robots. Enclaves and Bunkers . .
That's close enough to Fallout for me . .

Makes me homesick... Save for the "Two Great Nations" part...

You misunderstand, I apologize. It's not that I dont think the area is FO-esque, it's that if I want Fallout, I'll go play it. I'm funding shadowrun, and expect to play as much.

Still it's unclear how much they will stick to established canon anyway. Maybe they really only go for the flair and some of the big plot elements.

I'm a bit dissapointed that they chose to go 2D when they could use Neverwinter Nights 2 engine or similar ones not to mention multiplayer over the web so you could create adventures and perhaps even have a GM.

Oh well.

Let's not kid ourselves, nothing less than a fully immersive VR game ran by multiple genius-level AI will satisfy us. So 2D, 3D, doesn't matter much as long as it got style.

I'm a bit dissapointed that they chose to go 2D when they could use Neverwinter Nights 2 engine or similar ones not to mention multiplayer over the web so you could create adventures and perhaps even have a GM.

Oh well.

Linux support now added to the 1 Mill stretch goal!

Wonder if we will get something like a Mech-Lab for Cyber/Bioware-Installation . .

Wonder if we will get something like a Mech-Lab for Cyber/Bioware-Installation . .

How much would licensing the NWN engine cost?

Similar game engines cost in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. It'd eat the production budget like wow.



-k

It's not just about the engine. It's also about the graphical resources. In 2D you need a few artists to draw backgrounds, objects and characters. In 3D you need to model your objects and characters, then you need to animate them (using motion capture and/or rigging and/or manual animation), and texture them, which takes more people and/or more time. Unless you go for a very simplistic 3D, it will be far more expensive than 2D.

not to mention skill wise it´s a totally different ballpark doing 3D then 2D, not much use having a fancy 3D engine if no one at the office knows how to work it.

It's not just about the engine. It's also about the graphical resources. In 2D you need a few artists to draw backgrounds, objects and characters. In 3D you need to model your objects and characters, then you need to animate them (using motion capture and/or rigging and/or manual animation), and texture them, which takes more people and/or more time. Unless you go for a very simplistic 3D, it will be far more expensive than 2D.

If you recognized the names and faces behind the project this wouldn't be a question. Read through the credits in the Shadowrun 1st, 2nd, and 3rd editions and you'll see a bunch of names behind Shadowrun returns.

If you don't know, look at Rage. Four DVDs and it was shorter than some DLC I've bought!

And if anyone knows that good graphics doesn't make a game, it's us!

If you don't know, look at Rage. Four DVDs and it was shorter than some DLC I've bought!

Look at Dwarf Fortress: 7 megabytes and more content than Skyrim.

Look at Dwarf Fortress: 7 megabytes and more content than Skyrim.

And no arrows to the knee.

@Mirilion: it's explained here. It was both clever and well executed.
If you're interested you can get a C source code doing this here.

@Mirilion: it's explained here. It was both clever and well executed.
If you're interested you can get a C source code doing this here.

The Elite universe contains eight galaxies, each galaxy containing 256 planets to explore. Due to the limited capabilities of 8-bit computers, these worlds are procedurally generated. A single seed number is run through a fixed algorithm the appropriate number of times and creates a sequence of numbers determining each planet's complete composition (position in the galaxy, prices of commodities, and even name and local details— text strings are chosen numerically from a lookup table and assembled to produce unique descriptions for each planet). This means that no extra memory is needed to store the characteristics of each planet, yet each is unique and has fixed properties. Each galaxy is also procedurally generated from the first.

However, the use of procedural generation created a few problems. There are a number of poorly located systems that can be reached only by galactic hyperspace— these are more than 7 light years from their nearest neighbour, thus trapping the traveller. Braben and Bell also checked that none of the system names were profane - removing an entire galaxy after finding a planet named "Arse".[8]

Am I the only one who wants to visit the planet Arse? Just to see what it's like?

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