Nikoli
Jun 10 2004, 03:07 PM
D'oh. forgot that part.
BTW, what is the nuyen to MP ratio you are using. Some older modules in 1st edition had somethign similair to this run, as far as money in a computer, download and transfer sorta thing, but I need to know what size chip to get, otherwise the Johnson will have to spring for the chip.
Dashifen
Jun 10 2004, 03:19 PM
Becuase I honestly have no idea what the canon answer to this question is, I'm going to say 100 nuyen : 1 MP of data. So if you want to cover yourself for a large cash "withdrawl" in the order of 100,000 you'll need at least 100MP of data on the chip.
Also, I'll post a picture (side view) of the outside of the building when I get back to my laptop and can draw it. This computer doesn't have any graphics programs, so I'll do it later. That should help you to understand what I'm talking about as Trace zips around the outside of the building.
Nikoli
Jun 10 2004, 03:24 PM
I don't currently have access to any SR books (work), what is the cost for a very basic pocket computer, like 10 MP or less, with a disk drive from matrix and a 500 MP drive?
Dashifen
Jun 10 2004, 03:48 PM
Here's a side view pic of the building. I'm also at work so if anyone has an answer post it. If not, I'll figure it out when I get home.
Picture
Nikoli
Jun 10 2004, 04:18 PM
Once I get home I can, except for the disk drive. A friend borrowed that and it got stolen from him, the replacement hasn't arrived yet.
TinkerGnome
Jun 10 2004, 04:33 PM
Note on OMCs. Matrix and most versions of SR3 have the wrong price. The errataed (in SR3) price is .5

per MP. In other words, dirt cheap.
Nikoli
Jun 10 2004, 04:36 PM
Sweet. What is the SI for an OMC?
Nikoli
Jun 14 2004, 07:50 PM
I'll post my search test tonight. (my new Matrix book finally came in)Since we have the time, I'm starting a long search
Search test
[ Spoiler ]
Detailed Search+Low profile+High init+Info broker contact(+ Data Archive Familiarity?)
8+2-1-2=7 (Unless Data archive familiarity helps)
19:11:11:10:5:4:4:1
all 4 of the known successes into data aquired, any extra into reducing time, paying out of the 5k nuyen stick
800 for 20 MP storage unit, 1000 for 2 1000 MP OMC's, leaving 3200 to pay for the search.
Looking for information on the owner, the building, the next fight, the fight on the night of the run, etc.
Dashifen
Jun 15 2004, 01:54 PM
QUOTE (Nikoli) |
I'll post my search test tonight. (my new Matrix book finally came in)
Since we have the time, I'm starting a long search Search test
[ Spoiler ] Detailed Search+Low profile+High init+Info broker contact(+ Data Archive Familiarity?)
8+2-1-2=7 (Unless Data archive familiarity helps)
19:11:11:10:5:4:4:1
all 4 of the known successes into data aquired, any extra into reducing time, paying out of the 5k nuyen stick 800 for 20 MP storage unit, 1000 for 2 1000 MP OMC's, leaving 3200 to pay for the search.
Looking for information on the owner, the building, the next fight, the fight on the night of the run, etc.
|
Okay, I'll get back to this and to Hellcow's contacts shortly. I haven't forgot about you guys
Soluna
Jun 18 2004, 02:32 PM
I don't think we have a plan yet, Tinker. We have to wait for my character and Nikoli's to get back with the matrix info and we can't do that until the GM gets back to us. Hang out and enjoy pizza, I guess
TinkerGnome
Jun 18 2004, 02:33 PM
I'm not being impatient, I just wanted to give it a bump. That and I see that Dash is working on his play for the rest of the week from another thread. Next week, we're moving faster, I'm betting
Dashifen
Jun 18 2004, 02:38 PM
Yes! I'm here but I'm also in the play, trying desperately to get my laundry done (haven't had a chance to do it in a while because of the play) and all sorts of other life things. After tomorrow we'll pick up again because I'll be free all day to sit around and lurk on the forums waiting for posts

Hang in there.
Nikoli: One thing, you're doing a detailed search. You do know those could take hours, right?
TinkerGnome
Jun 18 2004, 02:47 PM
1d6 days, isn't it? Unless your response increase is greater than 1, anyway
Nikoli
Jun 18 2004, 03:44 PM
It's 1d6/2 days. thing is, I don't have to keep any more than a basic eye on that. I can still talk and eat, definitely eat.
(think the stereotypical sarving kid routine from Dick Tracey, now bump the age till 17 and he's been living in a homeless shelter for the last few weeks)
TinkerGnome
Jun 18 2004, 03:46 PM
Base times double if your response increase isn't over 1, though.
Shadow
Jun 18 2004, 04:25 PM
Hey Dash, I am a little unclear. Is the money on the third floor or the first?
Nikoli
Jun 18 2004, 04:40 PM
I'm an Otaku, our base response is better than almost all cyberdecks, it's based on init, which is 4d6 or higher, mine is 4d6
TinkerGnome
Jun 18 2004, 04:46 PM
Heh, that thought just occured to me

Yeah, you can probably pull one off then
Soluna
Jun 18 2004, 09:40 PM
I didn't think Ikarus and I were there in the vixen with everyone else. I thought we left and went to an apartment? Sorry guys I'm just confused...doesn't take much
Nikoli
Jun 19 2004, 03:32 AM
I am in the aprtment, but there is supposed to tbe pizza there
Dashifen
Jun 21 2004, 02:14 PM
Okay -- I think in my absence, things have gone somewhat ary. As I understand it, everyone but Lynx and Icarus (Soluna and Nikoli) are at the Vixen in the secure room provided by Niere McKay, the bar's owner. The other two have left and gone to an apartment provided by one of the team members (I misremember who) to allow Icarus the time to do his matrix search. There is definately pizza at the Vixen and if Nikoli wants pizza at the apartment, that works for me too. But, for the time being, remember that the two groups can't communicate without calling each other on some form of remote communications.
Okay, I've also gone through the Matrix sourcebook and by my reading of the paragraph (p. 59) about response increase to mean that it's an integral part of the cyberterminal and, therefore, not available to otaku. However, the increased time for trode and tortise users represent the weaker connection of those technologies. Therefore, I don't feel the need to increase the time any more than it already is.
Here's a question for the group: the base time for Ikarus's search is 2 days based on the number of successes and my roll. If you all want me to, I'll advance the timeline, say you've put down 200 nuyen to reserve the room for tomorrow night at the Vixen, and then you can get down to planning and pizza all at once? That should also correct the problem of having the team split up but wanting to discuss. This doesn't present a problem at all, from my point of view, because you'll still have five days to prepare for any other things you need prior to fight night. Sound good?
Nikoli: Sent you a PM about your search results. Put the information into play when it seems best to do so.
Edit: And, my play is done, so we're back to full speed ahead. I'll try to check for posts at least twice every weekday like I was doing prior to June 1
Nikoli
Jun 21 2004, 02:58 PM
I'll await the IC bump. and Otaku, according to the way it is listed, start at a 4d6 Matric init, the rules in my copy of Matrix state 4d6 matrix init or higher, not a certain level of response increase. but, you are the gm and it's the same number of successes either way.
Dashifen
Jun 21 2004, 03:22 PM
Right. I gave you the lower TN for the matrix initiative. The problem that TinkerGnome mentioned above was about response increase. Seperate things. The message was more to him than you.
Nikoli
Jun 21 2004, 03:31 PM
okidata
Soluna
Jun 21 2004, 04:38 PM
Movin ahead two days works for me. As long as I can sleep in the apt while he's doing his matrix search...and have some pizza.
paul_HArkonen
Jun 21 2004, 05:01 PM
two day boost works for me
Shadow
Jun 21 2004, 05:55 PM
Works for me as well.
TinkerGnome
Jun 21 2004, 06:05 PM
I'm fine with it... unless we find out about a fightin the meantime. That's my main interest right now, really.
Dashifen
Jun 22 2004, 04:59 PM
QUOTE (Shadow) |
Hey Dash, I am a little unclear. Is the money on the third floor or the first? |
Right now, technically, you don't know where the money is. You know the ward covers a room on the first floor that was marked "unknown" on the maps that the johnson gave you. Of course, you can deduce that something behind the ward must be worth protecting, but ...........
Number 6: Going to send you a PM about what you got out of your contacts. Should be there by the end of the day. I ahve to get back to work in about 5 minutes, though, so I'll have to send it later this afternoon.
All: I'll have some new maps with more information for you all shortly, watch for a link in this thread. Until then, I send Nikoli a PM about the search results and I'll let him fill you in on what he found.
Shadow
Jun 22 2004, 05:07 PM
So... does anyone have a plan?
Number 6
Jun 22 2004, 05:26 PM
Waiting for the info, could be (hopefully is) important. I've got some basic ideas. Did we ever find whats on the 3rd floor? What about getting construction plans of the buikding to get an idea whats where in the warded room? Main pillars and bathrooms should be in about the same place.
Soluna
Jun 22 2004, 05:34 PM
I think the third floor is the public gym exercise place...we could find out more about that and maybe infiltrate from above, since I'm sure a public gym will have less security and guards than the main entrance to the fight.
Dashifen
Jun 22 2004, 09:44 PM
The third floor is the public gym which would not normally be open during the fight (it's after hours for the gym). I'll go through the IC thread, but I thought I mentioned that the third floor does have one entry point in the form of a staircase leading from the third floor to the first floor. However, the exit from the staircase was not on the original maps, but is on Ikarus's overlays. This means that it's behind the warded section in some way.
I'll have the images for the new maps available to you all at the latest tomorrow lunch time.
Dashifen
Jun 23 2004, 01:29 AM
New first floor map. The redish section is the part that Trace can confirm is warded.There's nothing new on the second floor except for the fact that the staircase now found in the picture above is also on a slant through the back boxes. That staircase is the one that leads from the third floor.
Shadow
Jun 23 2004, 06:18 PM
My plan assumes I read the map right. Enter through the 3rd floor, take the concealed stairs down, and sack the money room.
Number 6
Jun 24 2004, 03:18 AM
Sorry I took so long to reply guys. I'm still waiting for info from the, um, 6 or so contacts I have applicable to this mission.
Have we considered burrowing up through sewers, or through the hills? Whats on the other side of that hill anyway?
Soluna
Jun 24 2004, 11:24 AM
Probably a concrete wall or something like that...anyone skilled in demolitions...lol j/k need stealthy approach. Going thru the sewers is a possibility, albeit a smelly one

Shadows plan is the one I thought of initially, but I think we can explore the sewers option more if people want to do that.
Dashifen
Jun 24 2004, 12:54 PM
Sorry Number_6, I forgot about them. Silly me. I'll send you a PM this morning.
As for the staircase that Soluna mentioned. It goes directly from the third floor (public gym) down to the first (the fight arena). However, the bottom of the stairs is behind the secured hallway. That means you don't know what kind of security is at the bottom of the staircase nor do you know what you might be facing in the hallway.
Nikoli
Jun 24 2004, 12:56 PM
Are there any house controlled vending machines in the gym?
Dashifen
Jun 24 2004, 01:09 PM
How do you mean? There are vending machines, but they wouldn't provide you a data access point into the gym's databanks, but rather the databanks of the company who owns the vending.
Nikoli
Jun 24 2004, 01:43 PM
Just thought I'd check, vending machines are suaully slaved to the local host. i figured if the gym owner ran those, they'd still be connected to the gym server
Dashifen
Jun 24 2004, 02:32 PM
Nah, I hadn't thought of that, but I would rule that the gym owner's allowing the vending machines on site, for which the machine's owner is paying him a "rent" fee for the space, but the machine itself is sending the cash electronically back to the owner of the machine and not the gym.
Nikoli
Jun 24 2004, 03:01 PM
Sounds good, and I got to thinking, chances are vending machines are on the Maser grid, which means they don't need a wire to anywhere, the power grid in SR is a computer network, just slightly slower than the normal.
Shadow
Jun 25 2004, 07:23 PM
Since it is easier to hash out a plan OC than IC, here is what I have so far:
- Enter on the third floor
- Lynx disables all the electronic security she can find
- Go down the stairs
- Take the cash
- Exit the way we came
Nikoli
Jun 25 2004, 07:37 PM
Sounds good, just remember Ikarus needs cover. He's useless in a fight (aside from whacking someone with his skateboard, which is more likely to get him killed than stop someone)
paul_HArkonen
Jun 25 2004, 08:18 PM
Makes sense to me, I can cover Ikarus no problem, and I'm sure that Slash'll be a much bigger target than the decker.
Soluna
Jun 25 2004, 09:41 PM
We also need to try and anticipate how many security guards are there on a fight night so we can guess how much resistance to expect. Maybe Ikarus can do another matrix job to see if he can get that info. There's bound to be people in the money room, even if it's just counting it and making sure it's legit. We also need to have a back-up plan for escape because if there is more security than we can handle we don't want to go in and get cut off from the staircase out and have no where to go, since it sounds like that staircase is the only way from the third floor to the first. That is only of course if we want to go out the way we came in. Maybe the sewers or the ventilation system could be our our. In any event they could serve as a back-up if the way in can't be the way out.
paul_HArkonen
Jun 26 2004, 12:51 AM
that makes sense, although i think we should go for ventilation rather than sewers
As for the plan to get out, have the sams make a lot of noise then run like hell sounds like an effective plan, where we run could be out the front door, through the fight (now that actually is an idea) or into the vents.
TinkerGnome
Jun 26 2004, 02:29 AM
Distraction is a good thing, too.
Shadow
Jun 26 2004, 05:08 AM
Distraction... hmm. A fire elemental materializing in the fighting ring might prove a good distraction.
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