Jack_Spade
Jun 18 2018, 09:29 PM
@armor: Mike would have collected those to get rid of them on the black market as well - it's usually a bad idea to keep souveniers from a heist. But if you want, you can keep them, but he'd recommend you to give them a really, really thorough wash so there aren't any DNA traces left from Zola, Schmitt or Ramirez.
@Volker
Per the rules the answer is clear: The more expensive the deck, the more expensive the nanite maintenance system.
Swapping out an implanted deck for another won't cost more essence.
Cerebral Boosters are Cultured Bioware, so they have next to no resale value. Still, I'd allow you to use the upgrade rules from the German Version: You pay [New Version - Old Version]x1,2 for the upgrade and we'll frame it as a retroviral gene therapy that unlocked existing features in your bioware.
As for the date: We are now at December 5th, 2076 or 77 - I'm never sure if I ever stated the year we were in.
Gilga
Jun 19 2018, 03:06 AM
No idea about the date actually.
What does this nanite system do (seems exciting)?
Volker
Jun 19 2018, 05:06 AM
[I can't delete the post! :-/]
Volker
Jun 19 2018, 05:06 AM
Cool, thanks for the answers.
I'm under the impression that the IC thread is drifting away into parallel universes...
@Jack: Have you read my last OoC post?
@gilga: She never returned to the table!
Gilga
Jun 19 2018, 05:31 AM
I edited to clear that returned does not mean joining the table. A drunk/drugged/broken girl at the bar, testing the limit how far she can fall before her troll bodyguard interferes. This is what Yael sees.
Volker
Jun 19 2018, 06:11 AM
ah, sorry

in that case, we are in the same universe ^^
Jack_Spade
Jun 19 2018, 04:56 PM
QUOTE (Volker @ Jun 18 2018, 11:14 PM)

I'm perfectly okay with his reaction if he's just being forget a jerk or a moron, but bnc absolutely doesn't look like a hooker. She's wearing long jeans, a band shirt and a hoodie if I recall correctly. You may consider this... Or not
But she does look like a drug addict - painfully thin and right now with dilated pupils. Combine that with that rather strong come-on and you hopefully can understand where those two guys are coming from
SquirrelDude
Jun 19 2018, 05:22 PM
To be fair, bnc's pupils aren't dilated because she doesn't have human eyes anymore.
Jack_Spade
Jun 19 2018, 05:36 PM
Oh right, well, same difference with the red nose
Volker
Jun 19 2018, 09:34 PM
sure, I'm absolutely fine with the reaction. She absolutely looks like a drug addict - she is! - but neither does she wear more than the slightest make-up nor typical hooker clothing nor does she look underage (she's just turned 21). I just wanted to make sure she doesn't resemble a hooker ...
She still does resemble a needy young woman who's on drugs and desperate. But there's still a difference between calling someone a whore because you want to insult them and acutally thinking they are one.
Yeah, anyway. Interesting question, though, whether or not cybernetic pupils would dilate. After all, they are controlled by the same brain signals as ordinary ones, I guess...
EDIT: Sorry again for bnc being, well, bnc. I hope you enjoy playing with her... I just can't play her different. I hope it doesn't drag you down ... I can remember that Kerstin's player actually cried after we played the shower scene. Myself, I guess, I'm kinda addicted to her ... I feel how tough it is, but still, I just feel her so strongly, I can't do it any other way.
Gilga
Jun 19 2018, 11:12 PM
No problem with bnc, I actually like her quite a bit... (and we have a month of downtime so no rush

)
SquirrelDude
Jun 19 2018, 11:18 PM
Also, all you people bitching about having "only" 800,000 gold to spend, and I'm over here trying to build a character with "just" over 500k.
Gilga
Jun 20 2018, 04:25 AM
In prime runner settings
SquirrelDude
Jun 20 2018, 05:13 AM
Prime Runner Settings don't make retinal duplication or synaptic boosters cheaper.
Gilga
Jun 20 2018, 11:17 AM
Prime makes it easier for mages that can do priority E-resources and still enjoy foci with high availability. (E.g. Magic A, Attributed A, skills A, meta-type C) Would have given me my own character + edge 7 instead of 2, +1 magic, 10 more skill points and a few extra spells. It does not give that much more money than regular gen in my opinion - so I get your pain.
Volker
Jun 20 2018, 02:37 PM
QUOTE (SquirrelDude @ Jun 20 2018, 12:18 AM)

Also, all you people bitching about having "only" 800,000 gold
Spent too much time playing WoW?

And I ain't complaining. I just said that I'm far from the point where I don't know what to do with my creds.
SquirrelDude
Jun 20 2018, 03:08 PM
Divinity Original Sin 2, actually
Volker
Jun 21 2018, 05:05 AM
^^
Is there any particular reason I missed why nobody's posting anymore? O.o
Gilga
Jun 21 2018, 05:31 AM
I did not want to rush it and thought that Slob would say something. I'll post later today.
SquirrelDude
Jun 21 2018, 03:29 PM
Partly waiting to see if Jack's NPCs have any strong objection to drinks being poured on their head.
Jack_Spade
Jun 21 2018, 04:45 PM
Nope, that guy had a brain and saw that bnc was in a group with a troll and an ork - not everyone sitting in a bar is spoiling for a fight. Especially against a frail girl - if you win it's nothing to brag about if you lose it's even worse...
Gilga
Jun 21 2018, 07:46 PM
I just LOVE Yael when she is drunk!
SquirrelDude
Jun 22 2018, 04:49 PM
QUOTE (Jack_Spade @ Jun 21 2018, 11:45 AM)

Nope, that guy had a brain and saw that bnc was in a group with a troll and an ork - not everyone sitting in a bar is spoiling for a fight. Especially against a frail girl - if you win it's nothing to brag about if you lose it's even worse...

Never underestimate stupid
Volker
Jun 27 2018, 12:53 PM
Shall we open a second thread? I enjoy the verbal duel with Kazuya, but I also feel bad about gilga not being able to join.
Gilga
Jun 27 2018, 03:27 PM
Yael need to rest with 6 boxes of damage. I am enjoying your convetsation. Don't rush it for me.
Volker
Jun 27 2018, 09:51 PM
okay ... if you're fine!
Volker
Jul 1 2018, 11:21 AM
Do we receive (and spend) our money in Europe?
Also, Jack, I guess your oncoming run will suit the moral codex of both bnc and the soulless grim reaper Slobbertooth's gonna play?
EDIT:
Also, what costs other than new gear do we have to pay? The flight and the new SIN comes from Gerhardt IIRC. I assume that we will have to pay lifestyle costs as normal.
Is there anything else I forget?
If I get new augmentations, operation costs are already included in the list price, aren't they?
Jack_Spade
Jul 1 2018, 12:09 PM
You receive the money once you meet up with Mike at the airport.
That is correct: Flight and SIN are part of your pay. Livestyle you'll have to find in Europe for the coming three months. Augmentations are always including the operation.
As for the coming run: Let yourself be surprised.
Volker
Jul 1 2018, 08:08 PM
Okay, thanks, that's good.
@gilga
I think we should agree on a common lifestyle. If nothing else, on an OoC basis it's fairer if we both subtract the same amount of money from our incomes.
After this heist, I believe, high is suiteable. Not only because it is comfortable and our characters would like to spend their lives in a nice way, but it also offers an amount of protection we are going to need with all the money we earned. Anything lower, we'd be assaultet like nothing.
Can we agree on high lifestyle?
Maybe I'll customize it a bit. I think it was Prime Runners where you can tweak your lifestyle, isn't it?
@Jack
I'm changing deck, as you know. Two questions:
a) Can i simply transfer the programs running on one deck to the other? I think that shouldn't be a problem, I guess.
b) Can my old deck be used without implanting it? Yael would purchase it from bnc for 100,000 and use it as an ordinary deck. I guess, this, too, would work, but I'd like to have your okay on that.
Jack_Spade
Jul 1 2018, 08:39 PM
You can swap the programs with no problem.
You also can use the un-implanted deck - it just doesn't look like a normal deck (has no display or physial buttons and is shaped like horse shoe)
@all
If it's ok with you I'll remove Krestov and Slobber from active play by making them miss their flight. That should provide us with a new start in Europe.
SquirrelDude
Jul 1 2018, 09:58 PM
Unless the run immediately starts upon arrival in Europe, Slob could reasonably land and then get on a bus/train towards the coast.
Will be a few days before I have the new char. done. I am away from my PC for the next few days.
Volker
Jul 2 2018, 06:41 AM
Rad!

About Krestov, I don't know. It's okay for me, anyway, though it doesn't fit, really, as Krestov's usually very, very reliable. And also with the group.
Slobbertooth said he would quit anyway, so, as he said, unless it's necessary, I would just let him split on his own. And, if that's possible, I'd do the same with Special K. He never enjoyed Running anyway.
Gilga
Jul 2 2018, 10:45 AM
I think that they can just take a different flight or just disappear after arrival, go to their personal affairs. Perhaps Krestov would go to his own country or something?
Jack_Spade
Jul 2 2018, 05:32 PM
I thought more something like getting delayed at customs for being goblinized while travelling.
Krestov is reliable, but he wouldn't risk leading anyone to bnc and Anna if he suspected he was followed...
Gilga
Jul 2 2018, 08:43 PM
About lifestyle, I kind of envision Yael trying to get into university again. Which means a student lifestyle, perhaps with a new roommate. Sure the money can be stolen (but perhaps this is how we explain how Yael lost so much money and has so much more karma). She's also going to have more spells, higher attributes/skills so she dedicated most of her time to physical exercise and magical studies. Perhaps, she and bnc do not even talk much until the next run where bnc calls in a favor and Yael remembers that at the end of the day, she needs the risk to feel alive.
SquirrelDude
Jul 3 2018, 12:18 AM
QUOTE (Jack_Spade @ Jun 3 2018, 01:59 AM)

Did you ask/get a response on this?
I didn't forget, I've just been preoccupied.
Jack_Spade
Jul 3 2018, 05:56 PM
I actually forgot. I rectified that now.
Volker
Jul 4 2018, 08:54 AM
Oh shit, yeah, right! I'll take care of that asap!! I have difficulties, tbh, to come up with something, but ideas are taking shape. Sorry this takes so long, I'm not neglecting it (well, maybe a tad).
Something else: A friend is going to be part of our group soon. His character is someone from bnc's past. ATM, he has difficulties creating an account because the captchas don't work. I gave him the login data of SgtBoomCloud's account, as he is inactive anyway. So, don't be confused, if he writes.
SgtBoomCloud
Jul 4 2018, 10:23 AM
Hoi, Chummers

To clarify: As Volker said, I am NOT SgtBoomCloud. Volker kindly gave me access to this as a dummy-account, while I can get the admins to help me get an actual account. The captchas are currently not working, therefore no registration.
Volker, Jack_Spade and Gilga know me as Luckace, I did my very first shadowrun with them.
Anyways: I heard you were starting a new run and are up for recruiting new blood? If so -> I'd like to to throw my hat in for that!
I offer a character who actually did a run together with bnc (but since I'll rewamp him anyways, the part together with her could theoretically be cut out, if that's a problem), he is a mage (all-rounder, I think mostly manipulation, detection and a little bit of combat; there wouldn't be much overlapping with Yael's skillset) from Austria and can also work as a (supportive) face.
Bears two major questions:
1) Everyone ok with me kinda "intruding" in your OOC-thread (I couldn't find a "recruiting"-thread)? Will there be an official recruiting-process for possible newcomers, where I shall post anew?
2) What requirements - IC and OOC? Any reglementations for the chacacter, how often are we posting, ...?
Gilga
Jul 4 2018, 07:01 PM
Welcome abroad.
Jack_Spade
Jul 4 2018, 07:24 PM
Yeah, great to have you once more on the team.
As for posting: Post often so the story can go on. At least once a day would be great if you are within an active sequence where we depend on your reactions.
You can pick your style as long as you are consistent. I prefer the scheme: red: talk, green: electronic, blue: mental
As for recruiting: I'll be setting up a post some time this weekend. I already got a request in the shadowruntabletop forum, so we might actually get a good sized crew together.
You playing an old acquaintance of bnc is great - makes it much easier to pull you into the story.
Volker
Jul 5 2018, 07:57 AM
QUOTE (Gilga @ Jul 4 2018, 07:01 PM)

Welcome abroad.
That's actually a matter of perspective. From his point of view, you are from abroad

QUOTE (Jack_Spade @ Jun 10 2018, 06:55 AM)

In generally, I allow any kind of generation method.
Considering that there will be a pretty big Karma and Nuyen difference, I'd like to give you two options:
You can use Prime Runner generation (Sumto14 with 18 AVA) or you can make a normal Character and enjoy 60 bonus Karma.
Oh and by the way: Since you have a very generous money package: You can freely convert Money to Karma at 2000 Nuyen per point
I assume that counts for luck4ce, too, doesn't it?
Also... Maybe it could be wise to talk to me first. Knowing bnc doesn't necessarily makes having contact with bnc easier ^^
She has no intention at all to go back to Linz or make contact with Kerstin or Dmeyk. As Wraph (or how is he spelled?) is and/or was associated with bnc's sister, it might actually prove a difficulty.
Jack_Spade
Jul 5 2018, 04:55 PM
I assumed you two already hashed that out between yourselves. But don't worry either way, I think I have a pretty solid hook to get bnc into this run...
SgtBoomCloud
Jul 5 2018, 08:37 PM
All right, prime runner sounds good. I'll stick with that, then.
I'm currently reworking his stats and background, fully fleshing him out might take me a couple of days. He's a Christian Theurgist, so I'm currently searching the bible for miracles that can be expressed via shadowrun spells. (just classic stuff you do on a Thursday night

).
Looking forward to running with you guys again!
Volker
Jul 6 2018, 08:24 AM
QUOTE (Jack_Spade @ Jul 5 2018, 04:55 PM)

I assumed you two already hashed that out between yourselves. But don't worry either way, I think I have a pretty solid hook to get bnc into this run...
To be honest, we didn't discuss anything of that, as we don't know what your plan is.
EDIT:
How much time do we have? Can we roleplay our arrival in Munich? Do we have time for implantations and stuff?
Jack_Spade
Jul 6 2018, 07:06 PM
You have roughly one month in Munich and the ADL
SquirrelDude
Jul 6 2018, 10:17 PM
Was Karma rewarded for the job, btw? I want to get Slob updated before I put him on ice.
Jack_Spade
Jul 7 2018, 07:01 AM
I don't know if you asigned the Karma that I awarded between chapters, but all in all this run should have given you all about 50 Karma + whatever you convert from your money into Karma.
Volker
Jul 7 2018, 09:24 PM
I think he was referring to the last part of the campaign.
One month is not a lot...
In that case, I won't spend all of the money I intented to, but will make a list of what she will purchase immediately and what she will be planning after a month. I'll send it to you, both.
Volker
Jul 7 2018, 09:24 PM
I think he was referring to the last part of the campaign.
One month is not a lot...
In that case, I won't spend all of the money I intendet to, but will make a list of what she will purchase immediately and what she will be planning after a month. I'll send it to you, both.
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