Full Version: Infiltration Challenge
Substitue 'Spike' in for Ghost and 'Glory' in for Horror and you will have your answer...
Buffy / Angel == Cool Shows 
I preferred it when Spike was evil / teamed up with Drusilla though.
I preferred it when Spike was evil / teamed up with Drusilla though.
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| However, just as you hear the other side elevator doors open again, you do catch a sudden bout of choking coughing coming from the same direction (think a really vicious case of bronchitis, the kind that sounds like they're about to throw up a lung). As Trogdor and Ghost (more or less instinctively!) glance in that direction, they spot a small clump of hair (unattached! it's not like it's part of someone's head!) caught in the elevator doors on the floor (your side). |
My read on this is that hair loss + bronchial coughing equals either radiation poisoning, or more likely a magical effect with similar symptoms to radiation poisoning. Because of this, although I'd agree that it's a good idea to wait for the other gang to arrive / hellhounds go outside ( and with hindsight, maybe we shouldn't have come down here before the diversion was in place ), I don't think that Ghost or Trogdor should risk any further delays after that.
If we do wait around for 10-15 minutes we should definitely send the spare drone down the closest of the two vertical shafts, while the other one watches the kennel, hopefully the drone can find level -2 while Ghost is on hold.
Trodgor should also have a stealthy look to see want's happening on the other side of the elevator, and Ghost needs to make sure she well hidden from the main corridor if she's waiting around for this long.
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| Substitue 'Spike' in for Ghost and 'Glory' in for Horror and you will have your answer... |
Hahaha, I get it now! lol
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| My read on this is that hair loss + bronchial coughing equals either radiation poisoning, or more likely a magical effect with similar symptoms to radiation poisoning. Because of this, although I'd agree that it's a good idea to wait for the other gang to arrive / hellhounds go outside ( and with hindsight, maybe we shouldn't have come down here before the diversion was in place ), I don't think that Ghost or Trogdor should risk any further delays after that. If we do wait around for 10-15 minutes we should definitely send the spare drone down the closest of the two vertical shafts, while the other one watches the kennel, hopefully the drone can find level -2 while Ghost is on hold. Trodgor should also have a stealthy look to see want's happening on the other side of the elevator, and Ghost needs to make sure she well hidden from the main corridor if she's waiting around for this long. |
I'd like to second all that.
Hmm, don't strong radioactives up the background count?. We may want to consider having Ghost mask up, while this would greatly limit her perceptions, it would slightly reduce the amount of radioactive dust she would be breathing. Though any exposure would probably be simple enough to get fixed later on. Seems like a rather stupid way to work with radioactives though. And why bring them to Seattle?
Since Ghost and Trogdor are going to be there a while, taking a close look at the hair might yield some clues, color, length, condition of roots, and so on. A clump of hair with bloody roots was probably pulled out forcibly, while hair that fell out due to radiation might look different, dunno. Also a close smell of the hair will probably tell Ghost things like whether it is human or animal, male or female, etc.
Any simple way to detect radiation? maybe ask an air elemental or hearth spirit? Diamond has two air elementals on tap, though getting them close enough without someone holding its hand might be difficult.
It may be something that they are digging up that is causing this effect (buried toxic waste, or similar though working without chemsuits seems to be sorta silly).
Since Ghost and Trogdor are going to be there a while, taking a close look at the hair might yield some clues, color, length, condition of roots, and so on. A clump of hair with bloody roots was probably pulled out forcibly, while hair that fell out due to radiation might look different, dunno. Also a close smell of the hair will probably tell Ghost things like whether it is human or animal, male or female, etc.
Any simple way to detect radiation? maybe ask an air elemental or hearth spirit? Diamond has two air elementals on tap, though getting them close enough without someone holding its hand might be difficult.
It may be something that they are digging up that is causing this effect (buried toxic waste, or similar though working without chemsuits seems to be sorta silly).
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| Hmm, don't strong radioactives up the background count? |
AFAIK yes (I'm at work so I've not got my books with me).
The background count would also be increased by toxic waste, or buried magical material.
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| ...why bring them to Seattle? |
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| It may be something that they are digging up that is causing this effect (buried toxic waste, or similar |
I'd assume that the effect is being caused by whatever is being excavated.
The Aztlan sourcebook and the Dragonheart books both discuss Loci, powerful magical stones/constructs that are buried at nexus points in the mana-lines.
Maybe they've found a Locus or something similar, anything magically powerful enough to create a strong background count could easily have a toxic effect on those nearby. I'm thinking like warpstone for those familiar with the warhammer setting.
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| though working without chemsuits seems to be sorta silly). |
This would contribute to the high staff turnover though.
If the effect is magical maybe it can't be easily protected against.
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| Since Ghost and Trogdor are going to be there a while, taking a close look at the hair might yield some clues, color, length, condition of roots, and so on. A clump of hair with bloody roots was probably pulled out forcibly, while hair that fell out due to radiation might look different, dunno. Also a close smell of the hair will probably tell Ghost things like whether it is human or animal, male or female, etc. |
Also, if the hair has just fallen from the elf it will probably still have a residual aura that can be read, given the elf's unique (so far) nature it should be easy to recognise.
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| We may want to consider having Ghost mask up |
Definitely, though after thinking about it I think that Ghost is probably fairly safe on this level as the background count isn't very high yet. I'd worry more when she gets closer to the source and the background count rises, I think that Trodgor will be at risk then as well, even though he isn't physically present.
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| Hmm, don't strong radioactives up the background count?. We may want to consider having Ghost mask up, while this would greatly limit her perceptions, it would slightly reduce the amount of radioactive dust she would be breathing. Though any exposure would probably be simple enough to get fixed later on. Seems like a rather stupid way to work with radioactives though. And why bring them to Seattle? Since Ghost and Trogdor are going to be there a while, taking a close look at the hair might yield some clues, color, length, condition of roots, and so on. A clump of hair with bloody roots was probably pulled out forcibly, while hair that fell out due to radiation might look different, dunno. Also a close smell of the hair will probably tell Ghost things like whether it is human or animal, male or female, etc. Any simple way to detect radiation? maybe ask an air elemental or hearth spirit? Diamond has two air elementals on tap, though getting them close enough without someone holding its hand might be difficult. It may be something that they are digging up that is causing this effect (buried toxic waste, or similar though working without chemsuits seems to be sorta silly). |
just to clarify, we're saying it's not necessarily radiation per se. we think it may be magical side effects *similar* to radiation.
I'd rather save our tasks for the elementals...
... or are you saying we should check for radiation so we can eliminate it as a problem? 'Cause if it's not radiation then it probably is magical?
Well, I guess the magic atifact theory *would* explain the washed out auras, the high turnover, etc...
But why make this place the new head office? And why were the gaurds uncomfortable thinking about the night gaurds?
Here, very briefly ... but I don't think anyone was asking me anything yet? [/quick scan]
(Ack - out of time. One and a half more weeks. Enjoy the respite
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(Ack - out of time. One and a half more weeks. Enjoy the respite
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Finally back - but a few more RL things to resolve first. Tomorrow I'll do a more thorough read-through and answer.
Let's see if we can't get this concluded ... and if there's still the interest, a new one started up
Let's see if we can't get this concluded ... and if there's still the interest, a new one started up
Game on.
Time check: 2041 ... and hindsight is almost always 20/20. (Almost - because how do you know the alternative would have turned out any better? Grass is always greener and all that.)
I apparently really screwed up on the way I described the vertical shafts. Sorry about that. What I'd intended was that those two vertical shafts opened up from the main floor main ducts into the otherwise inaccessible areas of -1, and that through the drones you could get glances down them. One (meshed off) opens up into the hellhound kennel (that's the one the drone was teetering over), the other (ending in a meshed-off fan) somewhere further down the -1 passage (along which that elf had been heading) in what seems to be a closed room. You've gotten only glimpses of that room - the fan's in the way - in those moments when the fan stopped and then reversed.
Re-reading the last two pages, some other things I don't think I addressed earlier:
I apparently really screwed up on the way I described the vertical shafts. Sorry about that. What I'd intended was that those two vertical shafts opened up from the main floor main ducts into the otherwise inaccessible areas of -1, and that through the drones you could get glances down them. One (meshed off) opens up into the hellhound kennel (that's the one the drone was teetering over), the other (ending in a meshed-off fan) somewhere further down the -1 passage (along which that elf had been heading) in what seems to be a closed room. You've gotten only glimpses of that room - the fan's in the way - in those moments when the fan stopped and then reversed.
Re-reading the last two pages, some other things I don't think I addressed earlier:
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| will growing up in a high background count area make you aura looked 'washed out'? - Crusher Bob Diamond and Trogdor both had Magic Theory at 4, but only Trodgor saw the wageslave, what did he make of that? - Entropy Kid |
Closest he'd come is guessing it's some sort of essence loss, but it's definitely not cyber.
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| I was thinking they were turkish.. sweet.. Ukranian isnt so bad.. the rules are just slightly off... Same with Gorgian.. or Serbian.. or.. Well okay.. they are all pretty closely related.. I mean if you think about it they all originate in greek, word origens are similar. - phelious fogg |
Uhm, not! And it might be wise not to suggest that to your average Serb. (There were these two King Arthur-style battles against the Turks at Kosovo ...) But I'm nitpicking, and it's not all that relevant in this context anyway
I don't know if you're waiting around that extra 10-15 minutes. The way I'm reading it, there's still "if's" about that. But this is what happens in the next minute anyway.
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| Advent informs the group that the guard at the building under construction has moved into a clear transmission area and has flipped open his wrist telephone. - Talia Invierno |
Sounds like you're not interfering with this except to have Advent listen in (no problems there). The guard's dialing Lone Star on speed dial, with a few nervous glances in the direction of the incoming gang activity.
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| Since Ghost and Trogdor are going to be there a while, taking a close look at the hair might yield some clues, color, length, condition of roots, and so on. A clump of hair with bloody roots was probably pulled out forcibly, while hair that fell out due to radiation might look different, dunno. Also a close smell of the hair will probably tell Ghost things like whether it is human or animal, male or female, etc. - Crusher Bob |
The colour matches that of the elf who just went through. So does the scent. It's brittle and very fragile, looks like it just fell out spontaneously.
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| Also, if the hair has just fallen from the elf it will probably still have a residual aura that can be read, given the elf's unique (so far) nature it should be easy to recognise. - Raiko |
Yes, to all.
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| Any simple way to detect radiation? maybe ask an air elemental or hearth spirit? - Crusher Bob |
I don't think a spirit could understand the concept beyond "toxicity" - and that could have many meanings. Also, some background radiation would always exist naturally, which could confuse the question further. (Convince me otherwise!)
I'll confirm that strong radioactives could raise a background count, although part of that would depend upon the use to which they had been put: ie. radioactivity as a result of a well-maintained nuclear reactor producing energy might have a very different astral effect than equivalent radioactivity as a result of an atomic explosion.
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| Diamond has two air elementals on tap, though getting them close enough without someone holding its hand might be difficult. |
Diamond would know it's possible to order an elemental to accept another's orders as his own, if you want to go that route. The other person might not have a very good idea by themself of what an elemental can do besides fight, though.
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| Does anyone think it would be a good idea for Trogdor to have a (very cautious) peek into the parking area at the other side of the lift to see what the elf is up to, or is it better for Ghost and Trogdor to press on together, before the elf comes back. Personally I'd prefer Trogdor to have at least a quick look. Trodgor should also have a stealthy look to see want's happening on the other side of the elevator - Raiko |
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| I'd like to second all that. - Shanshu Freeman |
I'm taking this as done and very cautious - not that the elf on the other side of the door seems to be paying all that much attention to his surroundings anymore. He's lying crumpled on the floor now, convulsing. All his hair has fallen out, his skin is pale and hanging loosely, shrivelling almost as Trogdor watches. He's still dual-natured but it's fading rapidly ... along with his aura. His hand spasms once, and dust begins to drift from his fingers. In a matter of moments, the rest of his body disintegrates into a pile of soft dust in and around a heap of clothing ... and his aura ceases to exist.
The whole thing took something less than a minute.
There's no one else in Ghost's immediate vicinity. And she's not yet masked up - won't until you specify (so as to take maximum advantage of her enhanced senses).
Hah! Shadowrun by committee! 
-Siege
-Siege
Brainstorming
Hmm, I'm stumped. Speaking as Diamond, I'm tempted to do one of two things: either abort the mission for severe weirdness, or bump up to the 'assault' alternative plan and clean the place out. Whatever is down there is probably not something we want these people messing with.
Iirc an essence drained body (e.g. vampire) just leaves a more or less normal corpse behind, not a pile of dust. The effect would need to be magical, since any purely physical effect would also dump a lot of heat, (not to mention what happened to all the water in the body). The next worry is whether this effect is 'cumulative' or 'single and slow', since Ghost, Trogdor, and the kitten (remember the kitten?
) may have doomed themselves by walking in the door.
Again speaking as Diamond, preparing a constant data dump of what the team knows, for posting to Shadowland (or similar) may be worth a thought, though I'm not sure how Shadowland 'works' in this game. But the idea would be to prep some info on this that would be distributed if the team gets killed is probably worth the effort, though most of the team is still 'safe'.
Question, does the team have enought firepower to kill 'em all and let Kibo sort them out? If we are going to escalate to assault, best stop the call to Lone Star (or has it already started?).
Iirc an essence drained body (e.g. vampire) just leaves a more or less normal corpse behind, not a pile of dust. The effect would need to be magical, since any purely physical effect would also dump a lot of heat, (not to mention what happened to all the water in the body). The next worry is whether this effect is 'cumulative' or 'single and slow', since Ghost, Trogdor, and the kitten (remember the kitten?
) may have doomed themselves by walking in the door.Again speaking as Diamond, preparing a constant data dump of what the team knows, for posting to Shadowland (or similar) may be worth a thought, though I'm not sure how Shadowland 'works' in this game. But the idea would be to prep some info on this that would be distributed if the team gets killed is probably worth the effort, though most of the team is still 'safe'.
Question, does the team have enought firepower to kill 'em all and let Kibo sort them out? If we are going to escalate to assault, best stop the call to Lone Star (or has it already started?).
Remember, we can't scrub the mission or, as the implied threat goes, "Heads will roll, including yours. Possibly literally."
If Diamond has a sealable bag of some sort, collecting a sample for analysis later might be an informative option.
I wish we had sent in an environmental sensor of some sort to provide more details in real-time.
Otherwise, proceed with the mission. Although I do like the datadump idea for a "worst case" scenario.
-Siege
Edit: And an open assault is as bad as failure, given the "no evidence" parameter of this assignment. And since we don't know what the hostiles might be, we have no way of knowing if we brought the right sort of firepower, never mind enough of it.
If Diamond has a sealable bag of some sort, collecting a sample for analysis later might be an informative option.
I wish we had sent in an environmental sensor of some sort to provide more details in real-time.
Otherwise, proceed with the mission. Although I do like the datadump idea for a "worst case" scenario.
-Siege
Edit: And an open assault is as bad as failure, given the "no evidence" parameter of this assignment. And since we don't know what the hostiles might be, we have no way of knowing if we brought the right sort of firepower, never mind enough of it.
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| Siege wrote: And since we don't know what the hostiles might be, we have no way of knowing if we brought the right sort of firepower, never mind enough of it. |
Ever feel like someone just wrote your epitaph for you?
I want mine to be: "He though of the experience points". 
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| I want mine to be: "He though of the experience points". |
*rofl* I think I should add that to my list of favorite last words...
-Siege
The full classic line is: "Look, a demon prince! Think of the experience points!"
I dunno about demon prince, but most of our more spectacular disasters could have been phrased with the DnD version of "hey, y'all watch this!"
Which, happens to be, "But think of the experience!"
-Siege
Which, happens to be, "But think of the experience!"
-Siege
I say we stick it out, I'm curious to find out what's down here anyway. 
I don't think it's a good idea to wait 10-15 minutes anymore though. I think Trodgor should scout ahead and see whether it will be possible for Ghost to sneak past the hellhound kennels.
If it's not possible to sneak past then we should still wait till the Hellhounds are outside. I don't think that Ghost & Trodgor are in danger waiting near the elevator, they would have noticed something astrally if they were being affected. Also the hellhounds haven't been destroyed so hopefully we'll be "safe" until we get beyond the kennels.
Ghost can take the clump of hair as a sample to examine later.
What side of the building are Diamond & the gang on? I think we should make sure that both gangs end up as far around the building as possible from the car park entrance. Then it we need to use the drones we should be able to send them in without alerting Lone Star, providing Solitaire can open the car park door for them. I don't get the impression that the security in this building will be calling Lone Star for help anyway.
Can Solitaire stop the fan for a few seconds to allow the drone to get a proper look past?
I don't think it's a good idea to wait 10-15 minutes anymore though. I think Trodgor should scout ahead and see whether it will be possible for Ghost to sneak past the hellhound kennels.
If it's not possible to sneak past then we should still wait till the Hellhounds are outside. I don't think that Ghost & Trodgor are in danger waiting near the elevator, they would have noticed something astrally if they were being affected. Also the hellhounds haven't been destroyed so hopefully we'll be "safe" until we get beyond the kennels.
Ghost can take the clump of hair as a sample to examine later.
What side of the building are Diamond & the gang on? I think we should make sure that both gangs end up as far around the building as possible from the car park entrance. Then it we need to use the drones we should be able to send them in without alerting Lone Star, providing Solitaire can open the car park door for them. I don't get the impression that the security in this building will be calling Lone Star for help anyway.
Can Solitaire stop the fan for a few seconds to allow the drone to get a proper look past?
Fyi I don't believe in no-win scenarios. Situations, yes - but not scenarios as I design them.
Trogdor is on-site in astral form only. The kitten is (presumably) with his body
Trogdor is on-site in astral form only. The kitten is (presumably) with his body
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| preparing a constant data dump of what the team knows, for posting to Shadowland (or similar) may be worth a thought, though I'm not sure how Shadowland 'works' in this game. - Crusher Bob |
It's a possible option, but it would take a bit of time for Solitaire to track down the latest access SANs - time away from what Solitaire's currently doing. Dumping the data into deck storage space for off-line storage later might be more immediately feasible.
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| best stop the call to Lone Star (or has it already started?) |
The number's been dialed, but hasn't yet connected.
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| If Diamond has a sealable bag of some sort, collecting a sample for analysis later might be an informative option. - Siege |
Even if he doesn't, I'm sure something can be improvised.
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| . I don't think that Ghost & Trodgor are in danger waiting near the elevator, they would have noticed something astrally if they were being affected. - Raiko |
They've noticed nothing particular astrally about each other. Well, apart from they're both (obviously!) being uneasy about the whole thing.
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| Ghost can take the clump of hair as a sample to examine later. |
Barring objections, I'll assume it's done.
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| What side of the building are Diamond & the gang on? |
They're coming up to the front of the building - by the main gate street-side. The car-park and delivery entrances are at the left side of the building (as seen from the main gate).
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| Can Solitaire stop the fan for a few seconds to allow the drone to get a proper look past? |
She'd either have to go back into the air duct system from above, or she'd have to enter either the dog kennel or the room somewhere down the corridor where the two shafts seem to lead.
Go, Knights of the Dinner Table!
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| She'd either have to go back into the air duct system from above, or she'd have to enter either the dog kennel or the room somewhere down the corridor where the two shafts seem to lead. |
I think you're getting Solitaire & Ghost mixed up.
I did. Sorry.
Revised answer: yes, Solitaire can and has - but it was harder to do than she expected. (+2 to security tally.) They're normally on a timer.
That gives a meshed view of some machinery - what seems to be another ventilation system, in fact. There might be some tanks in behind it, but she can't really tell from this angle.
Revised answer: yes, Solitaire can and has - but it was harder to do than she expected. (+2 to security tally.) They're normally on a timer.
That gives a meshed view of some machinery - what seems to be another ventilation system, in fact. There might be some tanks in behind it, but she can't really tell from this angle.
"Fyi I don't believe in no-win scenarios. Situations, yes - but not scenarios as I design them."
Well, to be fair -- we don't have a copy of the script. Looking at it from a first-person perspective...well...bleak doesn't do it justice.
-Siege
Well, to be fair -- we don't have a copy of the script. Looking at it from a first-person perspective...well...bleak doesn't do it justice.
-Siege
Are the hellhound cages computer controlled or do handlers open them?
Solitaire should stop the com call to Lonestar if possible. Who much longer before the other gang shows up? What's this gang's (the one already there) rep? If Lonestar shows will they run or fight?
If the call gets through, Diamond should be informed and kept updated on the 'Star's progress so he can make his escape if necessary.
Does Diamond know of anyway to contact the other gang? Mobile phone, pocket secretary, anything?
Solitaire should stop the com call to Lonestar if possible. Who much longer before the other gang shows up? What's this gang's (the one already there) rep? If Lonestar shows will they run or fight?
If the call gets through, Diamond should be informed and kept updated on the 'Star's progress so he can make his escape if necessary.
Does Diamond know of anyway to contact the other gang? Mobile phone, pocket secretary, anything?
I can appreciate the perception of "bleak"
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| Are the hellhound cages computer controlled or do handlers open them? |
Separate room with cages, manual exterior door (an elf's just opened it), cages with manual catches.
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| [How] much longer before the other gang shows up? |
About 10 minutes.
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| What's this gang's (the one already there) rep? If Lonestar shows will they run or fight? |
It was about 30:70 before - more likely to run than fight. It's more important to them to hold up their rep before other gangs than before Lone Star.
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| Does Diamond know of anyway to contact the other gang? Mobile phone, pocket secretary, anything? |
The contact used to be through their clubhouse, but they're not there right now. Actually, that should come as a good sign, yes?
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| The number's been dialed, but hasn't yet connected. |
Who wants to spoof the call? Can we do that? "Lonestar, to serve and protect. How may we help you today? Yes sir, we'll send someone out right away. Kthnxbye."
As we have the correct frequency from the scanner, Advent will try to use his RCD & emulation module to spoof the security guard's cellular connection. If this is successful he'll pretend Lone Star are sending help, as suggested by Shanshu.
If he can't spoof the connection, he'll just "up the flux" and jam that frequency using the RCD.
I don't think it's a good idea for Solitaire to handle this job as she would have to logoff the buildings system, then reconnect to the Seattle matrix via the satellite dish, and then reconnect to the building again after the spoof ( increasing the security tally again ).
If he can't spoof the connection, he'll just "up the flux" and jam that frequency using the RCD.
I don't think it's a good idea for Solitaire to handle this job as she would have to logoff the buildings system, then reconnect to the Seattle matrix via the satellite dish, and then reconnect to the building again after the spoof ( increasing the security tally again ).
Hmm, nice idea. Our security tally is getting a bit high for much more fooling around. Sigh, knowing when to stick to the plan and when to junk the plan may be worth a spin off thred...
That could be a spin-off thread: "You know when you're fragged when..."
*Long-dead relatives ask if you have any special requests
*The fat lady is warming up
*The SRT sends you a complimentary tube of lube
-Siege
*Long-dead relatives ask if you have any special requests
*The fat lady is warming up
*The SRT sends you a complimentary tube of lube
-Siege
Better do this quickly - at this rate this connection won't last another 15 minutes today. (Is anyone else having problems accessing Google or e-mail?)
For now it looks like the major question was that of whether it was possible for Advent to intercept and spoof the call. He can do it, but it was so tight for time (and from something apparently unexpected), he just jammed it for a few seconds - came across as a busy signal - and when the guard tried to call again, Advent was set up so he could tap right in.
""Lonestar, to serve and protect. How may we help you today? Yes sir, we'll send someone out right away. Kthnxbye."
Sounds like he bought it. (You knew the relatively high team CHs would come in useful at some point!)
For now it looks like the major question was that of whether it was possible for Advent to intercept and spoof the call. He can do it, but it was so tight for time (and from something apparently unexpected), he just jammed it for a few seconds - came across as a busy signal - and when the guard tried to call again, Advent was set up so he could tap right in.
""Lonestar, to serve and protect. How may we help you today? Yes sir, we'll send someone out right away. Kthnxbye."
Sounds like he bought it. (You knew the relatively high team CHs would come in useful at some point!)
Has this topic died.. 
If not, we'll send Trogdor ahead to see whether it will be possible for Ghost to sneek past the Hellhound kennels unnoticed.
If not, we'll send Trogdor ahead to see whether it will be possible for Ghost to sneek past the Hellhound kennels unnoticed.
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| Has this topic died.. |
Yarr, I hope it's not dead, I'm having a blast.
I would assume that Talia is a bit busy. She said something to that effect a few posts back.
I'd recommend comming up with an altenate to the extraction plan that treats those in the building as 'potentailly infected with something' and we keep them seperated from the rest of the team for some observation. We don't want to ture Seattle into the 'amazing disintegrating zombie city', now do we? Lets hope the extractee is not already a pile of dust in the corner somewhere...
I'd recommend comming up with an altenate to the extraction plan that treats those in the building as 'potentailly infected with something' and we keep them seperated from the rest of the team for some observation. We don't want to ture Seattle into the 'amazing disintegrating zombie city', now do we? Lets hope the extractee is not already a pile of dust in the corner somewhere...
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| I'd recommend comming up with an altenate to the extraction plan that treats those in the building as 'potentailly infected with something' and we keep them seperated from the rest of the team for some observation. |
Good point, one thing we need to consider then is that Trodgor is "potentially infected," but needs to return to his body within another 5-6 hours, and his body is in the warwagon with Solitaire & Advent.
If the plan goes to plan Ghost and (hopefully) the girl will be extracting using the Nightglider. If Trodgor stays astral for as long as possible after the extraction we can use the warwagon as a quarantine area once we get to our hideout. Advent & Solitaire can remove the cyberdeck and RCD from the van (to allow recon of any further target sites), and leave Trodgor's body inside the van. Ghost and the girl can meet us at the hideout, and enter the van once everyone else have got out. I'd say it should be safe for Diamond to use the warwagon as long as Trodgor hasn't re-entered his body.
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| I'd recommend comming up with an altenate to the extraction plan that treats those in the building as 'potentailly infected with something' and we keep them seperated from the rest of the team for some observation. |
Good point, one thing we need to consider then is that Trodgor is "potentially infected," but needs to return to his body within another 5-6 hours, and his body is in the warwagon with Solitaire & Advent.
If the plan goes to plan Ghost and (hopefully) the girl will be extracting using the Nightglider. If Trodgor stays astral for as long as possible after the extraction we can use the warwagon as a quarantine area once we get to our hideout. Advent & Solitaire can remove the cyberdeck and RCD from the van (to allow recon of any further target sites), and leave Trodgor's body inside the van. Ghost and the girl can meet us at the hideout, and enter the van once everyone else have got out.
I'd say it should be safe for Diamond to use the warwagon as long as Trodgor hasn't re-entered his body.
I'm sorry! I was going through all the pages I'd missed, oldest first, hadn't gotten to this. And I'll still have to stall for another day or two - if I'm lucky, I'll have the time tomorrow, otherwise day after - but it's very much still active.
I don't own any SR3 source books and I don't have MitS in front of me so I might be missing the obvious; but is there any incidence of astral disease? Those are a lot of precautions that could slow down the escape I mean egress of the team. There is always the case that this is something new, but I'm curious about the extra caution. I'm not saying don't do it; trying to learn something new potentially.
It doesn't protect Ghost or the target though. They've both been in there and will both probably be exposed (further exposed in Ghost's case) to Trogdor's astral presence. In the case of the target, it doesn't matter once delivery is done (nothing personal, just biz), but something will have to be for Ghost and Trogdor and sooner is better (if there is something actually wrong). If it is new then hopefully the answer is coming up.
Again might be stating the obvious, or (worse) restating what's been already said; but G and T-dor are going to have to be a little extra careful now. Well, maybe. If that guy didn't dust on a schedule, then maybe he'll be missed, and maybe someone will go looking for him. So this will have to be considered a traffic lane for a bit.
It doesn't protect Ghost or the target though. They've both been in there and will both probably be exposed (further exposed in Ghost's case) to Trogdor's astral presence. In the case of the target, it doesn't matter once delivery is done (nothing personal, just biz), but something will have to be for Ghost and Trogdor and sooner is better (if there is something actually wrong). If it is new then hopefully the answer is coming up.
Again might be stating the obvious, or (worse) restating what's been already said; but G and T-dor are going to have to be a little extra careful now. Well, maybe. If that guy didn't dust on a schedule, then maybe he'll be missed, and maybe someone will go looking for him. So this will have to be considered a traffic lane for a bit.
We didn't explore the idea of having a street doc on call in case of a major snafu, but we know that we have to consult academic authorities once we get clear.
An Eagle or Snake would be useful as well.
-Siege
An Eagle or Snake would be useful as well.
-Siege
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Well it's not too late. Diamond probably has a street doc contact, or knows someone how does. Or a Snake shaman contact or knows someone who does. It'll give him something to do while standing around. I know he's keeping the reigns in on the gang, but a couple of comm calls shouldn't distract him too much.
If someone knows a Street Doc, it wouldn't be a bad idea to have him waiting on standby (for a retainer) and put in a call to an appropriately connected shaman, advising him or her that we may have something needing an expert magical opinion.
Normally having a street doc on standby is a bit extreme but I have a bad hunch on this one. And we need to expect to do a complete scrub of all gear and equipment deployed on this job.
-Siege
Normally having a street doc on standby is a bit extreme but I have a bad hunch on this one. And we need to expect to do a complete scrub of all gear and equipment deployed on this job.
-Siege
Today, this first As usual, I'm concentrating on questions and background information.
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| we'll send Trogdor ahead to see whether it will be possible for Ghost to sneek past the Hellhound kennels unnoticed. - Raiko |
The hall is clear at the moment. There was an elf with another wheelbarrow - that's who was opening the door - but he's stepped into the room with the cages and the door is currently closed behind him. (I'm going to assume that Trogdor doesn't enter the hellhound room, so he doesn't see the elf himself - the elf had already gone in - but you've got the drone for a limited view.) Looks like he's going to be busy for a while. He's obviously puzzled over why the hellhounds were reacting as they were earlier, but then he shrugged and began working. Through the drone, you can see that what he's unloading from the wheelbarrow and tossing into the cages looks like ... well, you catch a glimpse of fingers on that piece.
Just tell me if/when she's doing it.
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| Diamond probably has a street doc contact, or knows someone how does. Or a Snake shaman contact or knows someone who does. It'll give him something to do while standing around. I know he's keeping the reigns in on the gang, but a couple of comm calls shouldn't distract him too much. - Entropy Kid |
We'll add one into those unspecified contacts: Galina, a troll Snake shaman and sometime shadowrunner. She works with a network of street docs in that part of Seattle that's borderline Barrens. (It's medicine, not education, but oddly enough it's not unlike Diamond's "day job" - albeit rather more time-intensive.) It's a tad more distracting for Diamond than you're suggesting, Siege, but he gets the call off. [Edit: I meant Entropy Kid. Really.] He catches her voicemail, she'll get the message within the hour. That usually means she can be available maybe 15 minutes after that at the clinic Diamond knows about. If she has to meet the team somewhere else, will probably take more time.
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| If someone knows a Street Doc, it wouldn't be a bad idea to have him waiting on standby (for a retainer) and put in a call to an appropriately connected shaman, advising him or her that we may have something needing an expert magical opinion. Normally having a street doc on standby is a bit extreme but I have a bad hunch on this one. And we need to expect to do a complete scrub of all gear and equipment deployed on this job. - Siege |
As you pointed out, it is a bit extreme and went completely unmentioned before, so I'm disallowing the standby retainer on this one. (Something perhaps to keep in mind for the future?) However, you can get Galina (+ network resources, meaning possibly another reliable street doc or three) within the time span I mentioned.
Actually, I didn't mention anything about time constraints or distractions (), but:
"Hey Galina, we may need some medical opinions in the next three hours. How much would you charge me to be ready just in case? On top of any other expenses incurred while actually using your expertise, naturally. Give me a call back. Thanks."
Some days you just can't spare time to bother with Negotiations and just pay the asking price.
-Siege
), but:"Hey Galina, we may need some medical opinions in the next three hours. How much would you charge me to be ready just in case? On top of any other expenses incurred while actually using your expertise, naturally. Give me a call back. Thanks."
Some days you just can't spare time to bother with Negotiations and just pay the asking price.
-Siege
D'oh! I knew I meant to change that attribution to Entropy Kid! and I backchecked that one too! (Had my new topic post destroyed twice by bouncing in the past hour ... sigh ...)
(Talia sets a new tradition by just assuming there's a "Sorry about that" with respect to something buried into every post.)
And you'd better believe the asking price is going to be steep for this one. Ever seen Kurosawa's Red Beard? That's what Galina's like - only female
(Talia sets a new tradition by just assuming there's a "Sorry about that" with respect to something buried into every post.)
And you'd better believe the asking price is going to be steep for this one. Ever seen Kurosawa's Red Beard? That's what Galina's like - only female
It's the price you pay for not planning ahead. Pun intended.
However, if anyone would rather we _not_ have medical attention waiting just in case, speak up now. Or click twice on the mic.
We can always use the trauma patch method of "oops."
-Siege
Edit: Tal, for long posts, write them in notepad first. That way you're less likely to lose the whole thing for a computer glitch. /edit
Good idea ... if you're not having to switch computers immediately after trying to post.
Is there still interest in this? Should I go on to Ghost's and/or Trogdor's venturing down the hall?
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| Is there still interest in this? Should I go on to Ghost's and/or Trogdor's venturing down the hall? |
YES THERE'S INTEREST
I've been waiting with baited breath for the next installment. I wanna see what happens!
Keep up the good work
I'm still interested.
Providing Trodgor can't see anyone approaching, then lets get Ghost past the kennels.
Providing Trodgor can't see anyone approaching, then lets get Ghost past the kennels.
On an ancient version of Netscape just now - not what I would call condusive to more lengthy replies such as what's needed here. Look for one tomorrow (Explorer! ).
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