Store it online somewhere. Instead of downloading into headware, they transfer it to their "website" or a "Resonance Realm/Well" or whatever.

Technos need a signal boost even if they are in the vehicle? Or just if they try to control the vehicle near or beyond their Resonance based signal range?

EDIT: Oh, and do you have the choice of AR (i suppose this is the old virtual dashboard mode) or VR? What are the benefits of VR over AR? You can still get dumpshock in VR, correct? What about AR, any risk of damaging feedback?

So, Riggers don't exist. They all either retired or became Deckers with grease under their fingers.
Lame.

hmm, good question. at first control of a building was the realm of a decker doing overwatch. then came the sec rigger. and now that rigging and decking have merged i have a feel we are back at overwatch. but maybe a kind of overwatch where one "rigger" goes along with the sec team on patrol while another stays back at base to monitor things.

kinda like those rigger teams from rigger3.

heh, i keep pushing the edge of these threads dont i?

Official (p233) - Technomancers have no form of organic storage memory whatsoever, so if they want to download a file, they need to mentally transfer it to a physical storage device.

There is a piece of Cyberware called the "Control Rig" which has a 0.5 essence cost. It basically is a VCR (in terms of description), except that it provides a benefit of +2 dice on all vehicle tests when you are using "full-VR" to control a vehicle. It isn't clear to me whether anyone with a Commlink and a Sim Module can do "full-VR" to control a vehicle (and get ginormous benefits to initiative, I might add), but a person with a Control Rig would be able to do it better.

Probably in the future "Arsenal" supplement. Vehicles and drones literally get one page (front and back), and have two upgrades, Rigger Adaptation and Weapon Mounts (1 mount per Body/3 round down, holds up to an LMG).

You can "jump into" a Rigger Adapted vehicle or drone, and still control your other drones (using their Pilot rating for tests).

Again, I'm not seeing any text that forbids someone without a Control Rig to "jump into" a vehicle/drone, and certainly a technomancer can spoof commands to a drone to make it do things the current subscriber doesn't intend it to.

I believe so, if you have a Rigger Adapted building.

No mention of used cyberware at all.

AR requires a Commlink, and is analogous to astral perception (you can see the Matrix and manipulate it), and you can't get dumpshock, although being attacked with attack programs or viral ware, or being in spam/static zones, can give you penalties. Highly congested areas can also give you a sort of "background count" penalty, similar to spam zones. AR uses meatbody initiative and initiative passes. VR requires a Sim Module and a Commlink, and is analogous to astral projection... your body flops over, and your persona flies off to whereever. Full VR is also used when you "Jump In" a drone or vehicle and take it over... you effectively become the vehicle. In cold sim, you get an extra initiative pass and use Matrix initiative instead of meatbody initiative. In hot sim, you get a bonus to your initiative, another initiative pass (for a total of 3 passes), and +2 to ALL tests done in the Matrix (note: This bonus only applies for Matrix actions, not vehicle tests, although I will note that now you can do Matrix Actions while you are Jumped Into a drone/vehicle without penalty). VR causes dumpshock when you are jacked out, and you take damage from Black IC/Blackout (only Stun damage if in cold sim, Physical Damage if hit with Black IC while in hot sim). VR is basically similar to the old way of decking or rigging.

How many vehicles are on this page? i can't and don't want to believe that they don't intend to integrate vehicle design rules into Arsenal. i mean one front &back page of vehicles... what kinda bullshit is that supposed to be? no one is gonna play rigger anymore......

we should send in a team !!!

Whoa. I never said that. Vehicle Riggers are automatically using Full VR (cold sim or hot sim) when they are rigging ("Jumped in" a vehicle), which means that they use Response (of their commlink or whatever hardwired system they are running) + Intuition for Initiative and at least one extra initiative pass (two if Hot Sim VR).

Ah, so there's basically a high-initiative, three-pass rigger that's the maxiumum now. Still slower tha a VCR 3 Rigger, but it will do, I guess.

And it's wireless. That makes operating drones while in a building easier, I guess. And another guess: Riggers will HAVE to learn hacking skills, if only to defend themselves against any deckhead infiltrating their systems.

Oh well. Guess it will do. Not what I would have liked, but meh.

What's up with hot/cold sim anyway? Does hot sim mean more intensive connection, and does that mean that a rigger who's dumpshocked from a vehicle using hot sim gets physical damage or something like that? (I hope not, that would make hot sim'ed riggers pretty much unable to jump into small body 0 drones, unless they want to die with them if anything hits them - if there still are such small drones, that is).

Well, I wouldn't write off the 4-pass rigger just yet. New tech might come out in the upcoming Arsenal book.

It might or might not be wireless. You can still hardwire yourself using a Control Rig and Sim Module through a Datajack, eliminating any wireless vulnerabilities. You probably will want to have a relatively high Firewall rating on your drones to prevent hijacking, of course. While a lot of Riggers will learn technical skills, they will probably focus more on Electronic Warfare and their Signal and Firewall rating rather than Response/System and Cracking skills. There is a whole column that describes the differences in focus between a Rigger and a Cracker.

Trust me, the Vehicle Rigger is still around (check the Smuggler archetype when you get the book).

Anyone with a Commlink can do the same things that Technomancers do, if they are skilled enough and have the right programs. It's not that Technomancers have become better, but they are simply an equivalent option. Hackers/Riggers get the benefit of cyberware and gear and are pretty cheap to maintain Karma-wise, while Technomancers are expensive Karma-wise, but don't rely on any gear at all.

Making a rigger a much more viable profession as runner.
I never liked the idea of investing VERY heavy into something external that could as well be stolen as was pretty much not replaceable ingame.
Not the practice of a nice GM, but when making a char I pref to take a look at such an angle as well.

This allows for the conjuror to have a combination spirit/done army!

They always could, the difference is now the odds are better that they succeed than wrap the getaway car around the front of a semi.

The Control Rig is the only device that I see involved, aside from perhaps a Simrig (to achieve full VR). Adds +2 dice to control tests when fully emersed "jumped in" to the vehicle. Does not work for other drones in network that aren't vehicles (pg 331).

Please remember that in full VR mode however, the Hacker/Rigger gets additional bonuses. For instance you now use the Matrix Initiative (Response + Intuition) and receive an additional Initiative Pass (total of two now). This is "Cold Sim" btw, which is a mode of VR.

"Hot Sim" requires a bit more modding to the Commlink but it gives the following:

Intiative is now Response + Intuition + 1 and an extra initiative pass (for a total of three now).
+2 Dice to all Matrix Tests (this qualifies to me at least for rigger a vehicle directly).

I pulled this from the VR Section (pg 228-229) and "Jumping Into Drones" (pg 239).

I am personally of the opinion that it might be possible to "overclock" a Control Rig in a way that Technomancers through Emersion can get the "overclock" initiative boost. This would give yet another initiative pass and bonus to initiative. But that is my opinion.

Actually this was talked about very briefly during the "What's Up with" seminar at Gencon on Saturday (20th). Rob does not want a book like Rigger-2/Rigger-3. He does want to give the ability to mod vehicles, but I don't believe he wants to go into the full-on "Build Your Own from Scratch" argument. While as a player/GM I find this an incredibly limiting viewpoint as a developer I can understand it from the POV of someone who does not want to have to deal with all the bitching/whining that arising from people who have conflicting opinions/perceptions of how the B/R rules worked originally.

I personally do not understand this question. The "AI" rating is the Pilot Rating, which has always been around for drones and was always used to determine how well a particular vehicle/robot (and now Agents) could work their way through a problem. There is still the need for subscriber lists (pg 238) but there seems to be a bit more flexibility with moving drones in/out of a subscriber list in general. Something I always thought was messed up in the old rigger-related rules.

It actually gives the comparison that Technomancers and Hackers who focus on rigger drones and vehicles do exist. (First Sentence under Rigging and Drones pg 238).

I do note that some of this stuff is going to be interesting to see how it plays out under much heavier playing here.