There were a couple survivalist shops. You can both pick up the same contact or different ones. Let me know what you decide.

Vega will ask if he can come along as well, that way Sledge and Vega can each add one as a contact and help with the negotiations.

I've been using $1 = 3 nuyen for a lot of my conversions... as there is no real comparison (or else I've been living off water/electricity rationing without knowing it, eating the cheapest food available, and apparently my car is part of public transportation... all without me really being aware... that or middle lifestyle doesn't cost $5,000 per month. My lifestyle isn't quite at the SR worlds middle lifestyle, but its way above SR's low rating, so a 1:3 conversion sounds about fair. Not everything converts at the same rate as the street value of gear and services is different than the value of an item in in the underworld of 2055, but it will work for most non-combat related gear and services). so the 1,200 nuyen should be close to the cost of an expensive gadget that is $400 in 2006 of the real world. The 2,000 nuyen price is the cost applied to a rich person by a survivalist who has a questionable income running a store that doesn't have prices listed on all of the merchandise. (Hence prices are negotiable if they like you).

Also, the smugglers wanted jackets, not vests. My typo, so you can keep the 22,000 for the vests, but they still want the last 100 jackets if you're willing to sell them.

(If anyone cares, I've been modifying the rolls based on availability (+2 dice for the vests and bikes, etc.), but also lowing the price because of the bulk (+2 dice for them, and lower the price down about 10% to a convienient number).

The smugglers are the best equipped to handle bulk armor (or bulk anything, for that matter), but the cost of running a boat and crew forces them to pay much lower prices, but they aren't affected by price modifiers in Seattle (recently used in a crime, market saturated, etc.).

Han negotiates a trial of the geiger counter. If the area is really contaminated, he won't need the geiger counter anymore. If it is mildly contaminated, he will want to monitor the situation regularly, and will want to buy both counters.

Short of magic, you're not going to convice a store owner to let a teenager to "try" an expensive toy that he is only likely to need once.

Ed's "found" a couple of containers of goodies this month. He's anxious to get rid of all of it at once (he wants to see each container whole, including the container with is worth about 15,000 Nuyen used or about 1,000 nuyen as scrapp iron)
Jan ’56: Medical Supplies
(he wants 300,000 nuyen, less than 3% of its market value)
1,000 rating 6 medkits with extra supplies
1,000 biomonitors
10,000 various antidote patches
10,000 rate 5 stimulant patches
10,000 rate 10 tranqu patches
10,000 rate 5 tranq patches
10,000 trauma patches

Jan ’56: Container of UCAS armor
(he wants 300,000 nuyen, less than 10% of its market value)
100 Chameleon Suits with rate 4 thermal dampening and helmet (market price: 12,100)
100 Full Body armor with helmet, chem. Seal, chemical protection 3, fire resistance 3, nonconductivity 3 and shock frills. (market price: 16,650)
100 each Taser Shields, Riot Shields, Ballistic Shields.

wow lets buy all those goodies!

*I'll have to research the body mall...

*Bob doesn't have antyhing useful to add for local clinics other than to give you the locations of ones you could find in a phonebook. Seattle has multiple public clinics, but the public ones propably aren't going to do buisiness with a child (rules about who they can buy from and all that... ).

*The few miserable squatters further into low city don't look like they've seen a doctor in a long time (a couple hits on an assensing test tells you not to spend too much time around these people). Those on the outskirts are reluctant to share any information (or talk at all). Make an etiquette test, and post a brief description of how you approach someone (intimidate, lie, bribe or tell some portion of the truth).

*Have you guys decided what foci / guns you're selling? You should have ended up with a few hundred thousand, right?

*If you mention them to the survivalists, they're only interested in the medkits, and only a few of them at that (They think everyone should have one, but most shoppers would buy a medkit from a more trustworthy source).

*Ed will deliver the goods to you, but you'll have to get them to your customers on your own.

*Also, something I think I forgot to mention (too many thins oing on), the bartender found a few locations, I'll try to have descriptions ready by gametime. He's going to need at least 1,000,000 to get started (make a serious downpayment (little collateral), renovation, stocking, advertising, and hiring employees).

*Remember, you can ask/bribe your contacts for favors. They are ral people, so just having a contact doesn't mean they can always help, but you can always ask.

*So we have Bob, the troll bartender/owner.
*Ed Murphy, the clepto dockworker.
*Maria, the AZzie talismonger.
*Mac, the chop shop boss.
*The baron, leader of a large but small potatos gang.
**Two smugglers who work for the same captain, running a SEA, AZ, Carib. route.

* As for using a gieger counter, if you buy one. It still requires a computer+logic check. Finding out how much you can take is also a matter of question, you have to set the level at which the alarm goes off for long term exposure (and when the alarm goes off for short term exposure, its already too late to escape damage).

*Did I miss anyone? How much cash can you get together for Ed? What questions have I missed?

*Do you really want some hints form the GM, I don't like ot suggest detailed actions because it feels like I'm dictating actions then...?

*You don't get Ed's next offer until you buy or turn down this one.

Before Han passes on the deal, Sledge wants a chance to chat with his smuggler contact and the ship captain. and see if we can work out a deal with the smugglers for both cargo containers. Sledge and Han can stress that the they can be delivered ready to go, all it will cost them is 30% market cost (3.25 million) to start the negotiation.

I didn't remember you asking about the smugglers, as they would be interested. (I just reread the last couple days posts, and see that you did, sorry). The smugglers are interested in the armor and medical supplies, but only have enough room right now for one container worth of merchandise, and are particularly interested in the armor. If you tell them what you have, they offer 500,000 nuyen, and tell you they can come back in a two months for the medical supplies.

Damaleon, make a negotiation test for the smugglers, if Han doesn't object... and we'll see where it ends up between 500k and 1 million... Also, remember to think about how much of the medical supplies you might want to keep. And if you want the medical supplies, you'll need to buy and store them now.

I haven't drawn up the plans for the paint shop yet, for now, lets assume a container fits without the attached semi. You could always buy an extension if you really wanted too.

Ed and the Smugglers work out of the same dock... lets assume Tacoma.

The NPC mages would like some conjuring supplies and a little pocket cash. The dwarf focusses on sire spirits and the elf focuses on air spirits, but they both suggest acquiring multiple sets of conjuring materials for every spirit type.

What rules did you guys decide to adopt for the magical group? As a note, I'll do fully encourage the "Oath" requirement, but I'm going to house rule a chance of magic loss if you break your oath (somehting that favors the character if it was unintentional and the group forgives him in character, and something very unfavorable if he just ingores his oath). Its an easy ordeal if you take it though, (and there has to be meaningful rules to take it).

Did you choose to pay to aspect the power site? Did you buy a water tank and/or additional generator (did you want a separate generator for this building)?

Keeping the astral area clean does seem to have some impact on the effect of radiation, sugesting that maybe radiation has a mana component. However, physical cleaning is the only way to make the place truly safe. Simple research will tell you how to do some basic cleaning, but serious (months worth) or research and some ammount of skill (Requires a relevant knowledge skill, the mechanics group or demolitions can be used as complimentary skills).

Simple cleanup includes thorough cleaning, and removal of as much physical matter as possible. Which means removing all the dust and dirt in the area, and removal of as much of the walls and furnature as possible. The 200k included removing all non-essential material from the basement, shielded flooring, and replacement of the lenolium in the rest of the building. Replacement of all of the glass would be better, as would removal (and replacement) of everything not an essential (non-load-bearing walls, doors, windows, plumbing, wiring, etc.) which could easily cost in the millions of nuyen (if you could convince someone to build a new building, it would be cheaper to do that, but work crews don't really want to work out here).

Research with the geiger counter doesn't show any immediate danger, you wouldn't want to live there for years, but assuming the Azzies didn't do more to you than you're aware of, you shouldn't mutate from the radiation here. As for spells, mutation and cancer can't be healed, however, an increase body spell will let you resist the ill effects of radiation longer.

OK, did I miss anything? its past my bedtime, more tomorrow night.

First, I decided Dragon is a better fit with Sledge, and may or may not get a reaction out of the dragon the next time we talk to him.

Okay, considering how big this could be for Han and Sledge, and the group in general, Sledge spends a point of edge, and with Han's assistance, and apparently the intervention of Dragon, he manages 9 hits on the negotiation test.

Figured we would wait until we meet in Saturday to decide what we sell in terms of magical gear, so right now, party funds are around 90k after dealing with the survivalist, and Han has his stash for wheeling and dealing that's over 200k I think.

We will decide if we keep the power site then too. Will likely depend on how much we can make off of this deal and the medical supplies.

Vega has a suggestion for some the excess gear and supplies we have, and will be keeping from the container, and pulls Swoop assigned to run it by him, as he doesn't have the necessary magical knowledge to know if it's possible.

"Here's what I am thinking, is it possible for you, Serric and Derric to use earth spirits to bury and hide some containers of gear in various areas in the Barrens? I know we could just dig a hole and cover it up, but that leaves a lot of evidence. Could an earth spirit do it without leaving a trace? If it can work, we can leave small caches of gear, like a pair of Predators, some clips, and armor jacket or 2, enough gear for an emergency for a one or a pair of us in low security zones, outside of our usual places. We can do it with gear we salvage, so we aren't loosing out on too much in terms of credits. That way if we get separated or desperate, we have several places we can get gear, maybe even a 100 of cert cred so we can hit a coffin motel. So what to you think?"

I would suggest we keep 10-20 medkits, a couple boxes of supplies, and about 100-200 of each type of patch.

you just described"safehouses" which was what i thought were trying to have 1 more of

If you want Ed to just deliver it to another spot on the docks, that's fine, he'll do that for free. The containers, however, are numbered, so you'll have to buy one (he gets rid of "found" containers ASAP). Like-new containers are 15,000 nuyen. And a driver will give you evenign lessons for 500 nuyen.

With Sledge's newly-acquired silver tongue, he talks the smugglers up to 700k for the armor (after you remove the ten chameleon suits). And the smugglers head out.

Ed's deal for Feb isn't as good, but its cheap, and keeping him happt is always good, also, the supplies just might come in handy some day.
Feb '56
Military Survival Gear
(Ed wants 150k for the lot, right about 10%)
500 sets of climing gear (100,000)
500 GPS units (100,000)
500 Hazmat Suits (500,000)
1,000 flashlights (25,000)
10,000 lightsticks (50,000)
1,000 magnesium torches (20,000)
500 microflare launchers (25,000)
1,000 microflares (25,000)
500 pairs of Rappeling Gloves (35,000)
500 respirators (rate 6) (300,000)
500 Grapple Guns (250,000)
50 100m spools of microwire (25,000)
50 100m spools of standard rope (25,000)

As for hiding a container, that's a tall order. I don't believe an earth elemental can hide it without leaving a trace, but there are plenty of places in glow city were the only prying eyes are cockroaches and the rare squater. So burying a container isn't a problem if thats what you want to do. See if you can come up with some creative ideas for hiding places for them. You can also buy smaller conainters (20' containers are 8,000, remind me to give you some interesting ideas tomorrow about containers).

What I described was a box of stuff buried underground, don't see how that is a safehouse. A safehouse can be slept in, and while you can sleep in a hole in the ground, I doubt these would be big enough to fit in, and I wouldn't want all that dirt on top me if I planned on waking up

Not enough room to sleep in? When you said "containers" I thought you meant 40-foot shipping containers, which would be more than enough room to sleep in.

I said what we kept from the containers, not the containers themselves. Something the size of a cooler with a couple of guns, armored jacket or two, and a certified credstick with a 100 on it for a decent meal and a coffin motel stay. Just a few emergeny caches, for the almost worst case senario (you lose everything but your life). At least, that's what I was refering to in the post about 5 spots up.

sorry when your being hunted a hole in the ground is where i thought people hide sadam certainly thought so anyway a safehouse is what i thought we were making the building into is this whats going on ? everyone can just bring me up to date tomorrow as ill need to fix my characters anyways

Any comments on the container of survival gear offered by Ed?

The containers are tracked electronically, the numbers on the side are just extra. And I thought new containers were $5,000... I'll check it out.

And the survivalists ae interested in a few of everything, but they can't store very much, so won't buy more than 10% between the two of them. Since they aren't mainstream stores, they don't sell for full price, so they can't pay the normal 30% starting point. for negotiations. Did anyone pay for them to be contacts?

Yeah, I have Vega add one and Sledge add the other

guys sorry i cannot make it today something came up

Sorry you won't be ther crimson.

I'm leaving in a few minutes. I need to get gas, so it'll be about 4:45 when I get there.

As discussed last night, we won't be meeting next time, and pendng Jon's schedule, we might miss two more meetings this year, so remember to check back here before showing up.

Dionysus, you still interested? If you are, I'm planning on the easy way to add you, by just having your characters take the place of a couple of the chracters whose players left (haven't heard from two players inseveral months, so I"m assuming they won't come back). Just a reality change, in character, the characters will believe that your characters are the ones that have always been there...

Crimson, since you missed last night, would you like to discuss any IC actions here before anyone starts discussing the last adventure? Of note, the party now has significant magical resources, including weapon foci, if you're interested (rate two knives and katanas, and rate 6 knives). I know weapon foci don't do a lot for you, just wanted to make sure you had a chance before the party sold them (not that the party is in need of cash at the moment).

Swoop asks, "How about calling our new Magical Group 'CounterThreats'? Do you think we can attract members with a name like that?

"CounterThreats: saving Seattle.

"Do you think our name should say something about our Aztlan chummers? Would we gather more interest that way"

I thought you had 1.5 million nuyen!!! What did it all get spent on?

Forgot about all the different kinds of foci.

Being that we are limited to 5 times our Magic in Force points for Bonded Foci (p. 85 of SR4, unless that only applies to creation), Sledge is interested in only 8 foci being set asside for his later use.

Quick question, Counterspelling Focus description says it is effective if it is countering a spell of the appropriate catagory to the type of focus, so does that mean they divided among the spell types as well?

1. Shielding F6
2. Weapon F6 (ritual knife)
3. Summoning (Man) F6
4. Binding (Man) F6
5. Sustaining F6
6. Summoning (Fire) F2
7. Binding (Fire) F2
8. Counterspelling F6

That along with the Combat and Power foci already put aside are as many as he will be bonding in the next couple years of play.

OOC:

Okay, just these then:

1. Shielding F6
2. Weapon F6 (ritual knife)
3. Sustaining F6
4. Sustaining F6
5. Centering F6
6. Power F6

Only combat counterspelling foci (I had forgotten when I wrote the list that counterspelling foci were dependant on spell category). And good catch on the efficiency of metamagic foci (shielding and centering). Remember, you can only gain as many dice on the roll from foci as the relevant score being boosted.
*Power foci boost all magical skills except counterspelling, so the limit on dice for any specific test is equal to the skill.
*Shielding provides a bonus to counterspelling, so a shielding focus should run out of usefullness as soon as your reach initiate grade 6 (I'll check up on this further).
*Centering adds to drain tests, which has no relevant skill, so until further notice, centering foci can't add more than your initiate grade to drain tests (which still makes them the onlu foci useful at high force, as initiate grade isn't limited).

As for lifestyle, as far as I know, your only expenses are utilities at the paint shop and gas station, and food. So 500 total total nuyen per month per character, its been 6 months, and there are 12 characters in the goup. Thats a total bill of 36,000 for something better than squatter, but not as good as low. When you're out of combat, you can work to increase the quality of life, all it takes in money and a contact who can legitimize your legal purchases. Life isn't perfect, but the group has access to millions of Nuyen, one local contact who can legitimize moderate purchases, and they know a couple people who MIGHT be able to help liquidate some of those resources, and are in the process of getting mroe contacts or even allies (if they take advantage of all of their opportunities).

After the current adventure, there should be another 6-month time pass. This adventure should take about one month of incharacter time (three or four game sessions).

Also, BA, Derric and Serric each wanted to have about 10k in certified cred to carry around. Is this agreeable? They suggest the same for other party members...

As for what Derric and Serric want for Foci, They both want some time to think about it (I'll look over the list again sometime soon).

For the group name; neither Derric or Serric are very excited about counterthreat, but they don't care enough to come up with a better name. The pursuit of power is more important than the importance of the name used to refer to ones peer group.

Now that I think o fit... Persuit of Power... Pure power... maybe its just sleepyness getting to my brain, but I like the word POWER... any ideas for a name using POWER.


Hnnn... Word(s) of Power... nope, WOP sounds to silly...
Maybe something complicated to feed the hermetic stereotype...
Ehhh... wait until the next adventure is over before deciding on a name in character, unless we agree on counterthreat anyways.

Wow, simultaneous post... think you'll match the timestamp on this one too, or am I fast enough?

Goodnight BA, 11pm, past my bedtime

It does have a nice ring too it. Sounds good to me.