How bad would it be to just jump out?

McQ - Can you give me a clearer answer on their foci? I was looking for any foci, and expecting weapons, not only looking for weapon foci.

Sparky--They have no foci.

Shadow--You'd soak 10S impact if you just jumped out of the truck and it would drive until it stopped or hit something.

Ok, I was thinking the crash could be a great distraction.

Handling test,

13, 9, 2

Use karma as needed.

The crash would be the "hit something" part of my earlier post.

You're fine for the handling.

Delaying until they move. If they move for the door, we will stop them, bodily. If they attack, we attack.

Moving day starts today. I won't have internett access most of the day. I should tonight though and I should be able to get caught up on most of my threads tonight. If I am holding up the game feel free to make a GM call and have my character act without me.

Sparky, they are attacking. I need 4 opposed melee tests as well as attack rolls from the watchers and Herne.

Sparky--I'm going to push the dice rolls on for you tomorrow if you don't post them, so that we don't bog down.

Sorry, I keep meaning to ask in my lamer-I-don't-know-SR3-at-all way... what do I roll for opposed melee (for everyone)? Or you can roll it. I trust ya.

4 tests, each test consisting of dice equal to your Melee skill (and in this case, plus weapon focus rating). You can add as much combat pool as you like, but keep in mind you're rolling 4 tests in the same phase, and the pool is not going to refresh until the next combat round, and there could be up to 4 combat turns in this round. Additionally, you'll be rolling your skill again when your action comes up to attack them.

Their attacks = 4 rolls + Your attack = 1 rolls x 3-4 phases = 15-20 combat rolls before combat pool refreshes. And that's assuming you don't take the +2 modifiers per opponent to attack more then 1 opponent with each complex action. Could be upwards of 24-32 sets of rolls per round if you're doing that.

Your base TN is going to be 4. You have two points of reach, which you can assign to either reduce your TN or increase their TN by +1 per each point of reach (assuming they don't have close combat, which they probably do. If they have close combat, your reach bonuses will be negated).

The second attack to come in will have modifiers for friends in melee. Effectively, you'll have a +1 to your TN, and they'll have a -1 to their TN. This will increase for each additional opponent until your allies can act to actually engage in combat. So, the 4th roll coming in is going to have a +3 to your TN and a -3 to their TN.

Information you need from McQuillan is whether or not they're using close combat, because that will modify your TN's and decide whether or not you'll want to use karma.

Personally, my suggestion is to spend whatever you can in the first round or two to try and kill them outright. The longer the fight goes on the worse it's going to get for you because all your allies but Herne can be dropped fairly easily by a skilled combatant, and they're you're only way of negating the massive "friends in melee" penalties.

Alright so here we go...for illustrative purposes I will be posting both sides of this combat. Please do not try to reverse engineer the skills etc. for the bad guys.


Edana (Astral Combat 6 + Focus 10) Base TN 4
14 10 08 05 05 04 04 04 04 04 03 03 03 02 02 01 (TN 4, 10 Successes)

Bad guy1 (Pool of 10) Base TN 4 +2 Reach modifier from Edana's Whip. TN 6.
11 05 05 04 04 04 04 01 01 01 (TN 6, 1 Success)

Bad guy1(9 net successes. Every 2 successes scale damage up one level, 6L goes to 6D +1 Choosing to do Stun.)
1 success on damage soak, bad guy1 is KO'd

Edana (Astral Combat 6 + Focus 10) Base TN 4 +2 for switching opponents. TN 6
13 10 09 08 05 05 05 04 04 03 03 02 02 02 02 02 (4 Successes)

Bad guy2 (Pool of 10) Base TN 4 +2 Reach. TN 6
11 09 09 07 04 04 04 04 03 01 (4 Successes)

Bad guy2**Ties go to the attacker unless the defender chooses full defense.**
Damage Soak (6L) 1 success, takes a Light Stun

Watcher1 on Bad guy2 (pool of 4) TN 4 -1 FiM. TN3
05 04 03 03 (TN 3, 4 successes)

Bad Guy2 (Pool of 10) TN 4 +1 FiM +1 Wound TN 6
22 11 05 05 04 04 03 03 02 02 (TN 6, 2 successes)

Bad Guy2damage soak (4L stages to 4M) 2 successes, takes a second Light stun

Watcher2 on Bad guy2 (pool of 4) TN 4 -2 FiM. TN2
07 05 03 02 (TN 2, 4 successes)

Bad Guy2 (Pool of 10) TN 4 +2 FiM +1 Wound TN 7
10 10 05 05 05 05 04 02 02 01 (TN 7, 2 successes)

Bad Guy2damage soak (4L stages to 4M) 4 successes, no damage

Watcher3 on Bad guy2 (pool of 4) TN 4 -3 FiM. TN2
05 03 03 02 (TN 2, 4 successes)

Bad Guy2 (Pool of 10) TN 4 +3 FiM +1 Wound TN 8
22 11 05 05 04 04 03 03 02 02 (TN 6, 2 successes)

Bad Guy2damage soak (4L stages to 4M) 1 successes, 3rd Light stun takes bad guy to moderate

Watcher4 on Bad guy2 (pool of 4) TN 4 -4 FiM. TN2
05 05 02 01 (TN 1, 3 successes)

Bad Guy2 (Pool of 10) TN 4 +4 FiM +2 Wound TN 9
11 10 05 05 05 04 04 01 01 01 (TN 9, 2 successes)

Bad Guy2damage soak (4L +1) 2 successes, Light stun takes bad guy to moderate+1

Hearth Spirit attacks Bad Guy 3 (Pool of 4) TN 4
07 05 05 01 (TN 4, 3 successes)

Bad Guy3 (Pool of 10) TN 4
05 05 04 04 04 03 03 03 02 02 (TN 4, 5 successes)

Hearth Spiritdamage soak (5M stages to 5S +1) 1 successes, Hearth Spirit takes S Physical

Herne on Bad guy3 (pool of 6 + 3 Astral Combat) TN 4 -1 FiM. TN3
17 10 07 04 04 03 02 01 01 (TN 3, 6 successes)

Bad Guy3 (Pool of 10) TN 4 +1 FiM TN 5
10 09 05 05 04 04 03 01 01 01 (TN 5, 4 successes)

Bad Guy3 damage soak (6M stages to 6S **Chooses to do Physical**) 0 successes, BadGuy3 takes S physical

--End Edana's Turn--

--Start Bad Guys turn--

Bad Guy1 Unconscious

Bad Guy2 strikes out at Watcher1 TN 10 (4+4+2)
15 11 10 05 05 05 04 03 03 03 02 02 02 (3 Successes)
Watcher 1 melee (TN 2) 08 05 04 01 (3 Successes) Soak 6M Physical (takes M Physical)

bad Guy3 strikes out at Hearth Spirit TN 8 (4 +1 +3)
11 10 09 08 04 04 03 02 02 01 01 01 01 (4 Successes)
Hearth Spirit melee (TN 6) 10 04 03 03 (1 Success) Soak 6S Physical +1 (Takes S and is destroyed)

Bad Guy4 strikes out at Watcher 1 TN 3 (4-1)
16 05 05 05 05 05 03 02 02 01 (7 Successes)
Watcher1 melee TN 7 (4+1+2) 11 07 04 01 (2 Successes) Soak 6DPhysical +1 (Takes D and is destroyed)

Bad Guy4 strikes out at Watcher 2 TN 5 (4-1+2)
11 08 08 08 05 04 03 03 02 02 (5 Successes)
Watcher2 melee TN 5 (4+1) 11 10 04 03 (2 Successes) Soak 6S Physical +1 (Takes S Physical)

Bad Guy4 strikes out at Watcher 3 TN 8 (4+4)
11 05 04 04 04 03 02 02 02 02 (1 Success) (Soak 4L+1 takes Light Stun)
Watcher3 melee TN 4 --05 05 03 01 (2 Successes)

Damage Meter
BadGuy1 unconscious
BadGuy2 4 boxes Stun
BadGuy3 6 boxes Physical
BadGuy4 1 box Stun

Watcher1 Destroyed
Watcher2 6 boxes Physical
Watcher3
Watcher4

Hearth Spirit Destroyed

Initiative is as follows:
Edana 46
Gellawyn 32 (Delaying to the window)
Badguys 31
---Downtown 25
Kraxus 13 (Will Cast Levitate)

Shadow--You're up. I know that you are in progress of moving, but will give you tonight to see if you can get caught up. Otherwise I will push you along into the hospital.

Ahem... Fuer'yon?

Very nice roll up, McQuillan. Thanks for laying that out. Helps tons.

Fuer'yon goes by Fenris' orders...

AHEM. Fuer'yon!

Hrm...sorry, I guess you missed the part where Fuer'yon turned his back on the combat. My apologies, I should have made that clearer. In response to your lack of control of your emotions and the way you lashed out at him, Fuer'yon has decided your on your own for the moment.

I saw the part where Kraxus was incredulous about Edana 'challenging' him. We'll have to get this settled. AFTER I mop the floor with these ghouls.

And for future reference Sparky, your Hearth spirit should have had a combat pool of 6 dice, and a karma pool = to the number of tasks it had when you originally summoned it.

I included the combat pool in the soak tests for the Hearth spirit, though it did not excessively use its karma.

My apolgies, I meant that more as a note to Sparky, since all of this was done to try and teach her the ropes. I didn't see any mention of the pool or karma used, so I wanted to let her know, for when she starts handling all of this on her own.

Rolls for Gellawyn shooting out the window.

Reaction test for quickdraw: 14 13 10 10 05 05 05 05 05 04 04 04 03 02 01 01
Plenty of successes

Centering against penalties (running, TN 8 - 6): 13 09 04 04 03 02
All successes, so penalties are reduced by 3.

First bow shot at window with Ex arrow (TN 4): 07 05 05 05 05 04 04 03 03 02 01 01 01 (7 successes)
Damage: 14M
Window has a barriar rating of 4 (adjusted rating of 8 ). Power of attack is twice the adjusted barrier rating, so for every 2 points over base barrier rating a 1/2 meter hole is opened (2.5 meter hole) and the barriar rating is reduced by 1 (total -5), barrier destroyed.

Second shot at ghoul with hammerhead arrow at nearest ghoul (TN 6): 09 09 08 05 05 05 04 04 03 03 02 02 02 (3 successes)
Karma: 11 09 08 05 05 04 03 03 03 01 (3 succsses)

Adjusted damage is 11D + 2 successes (stun)

Subtracting ten...

--Edana 36
Gellawyn 22
Badguys 21
Downtown 15
Kraxus 3

Sparky you are up.

Damage Meter
BadGuy1 unconscious
BadGuy2 4 boxes Stun
BadGuy3 6 boxes Physical, 6 boxes Stun
BadGuy4 1 box Stun

Watcher1 Destroyed
Watcher2 6 boxes Physical
Watcher3
Watcher4

Hearth Spirit Destroyed

@ Badguy 3, Edana (Astral Combat 6 + Focus 10) Base TN 2
09 08 05 05 05 05 05 05 04 04 04 03 02 01 01 01 (TN 2, 13 Successes)

@ Badguy 2, Edana (Astral Combat 6 + Focus 10) Base TN 2 +2 for switching opponents. TN 4
13 07 05 05 05 04 04 04 04 03 03 03 03 02 01 01 (9 Successes)

Go Sparky go!

(this is me bumping to keep us current)

Sparky--You need to decide what herne and your watchers are up to.

BadGuy3 is dead. He's at 10 Stun, 10 Physical.
BadGuy2 is down and bleeding.

ok Gellawyn is going to shoot at Bad Guy 4

Centering to remove penalties TN 3
01 02 04 04 05 05 (4 succcesses)

Karma
03 05 (2 successes/6 total -3 penalties)

1st Shot TN 8
01 01 01 01 02 03 03 03 03 03 04 07 11 15 (3 successes)

2nd Shot TN 8
01 01 01 02 02 03 03 04 05 05 05 08 11 11 (3 successes)

Using hammerhead arrows so Base damage is 11M Stun.

Oh no... the whip is talking?

That can't be good. Did stun damage kill that guy? Is it possible to pull punches? Because if so I would have wanted to. She is expressly not out to kill. If there is nothing to do by the rules (IE - enough stun can kill no matter what the intent) then that's... bad.

Anyway. You've probably seen it, but I'm out for the week. Will post as I can. Herne and the spirits are to stun damage any remaining bad guys. Edana will continue fighting until baddies are down and then move back into the room with Michael. There will probably be a call in here somewhere her lawyer contact.

Stun rolls over. Effectively he took a Deadly wound and failed to soak, which caused 8 boxes of damage to come in. 4 filled in the Stun bar on top of the Serious he already had, the other 4 then rolled into the Physical bar killing him. If he didn't already have a Serious Physical, then it would have simply been a moderate wound. (Internal hemorraghing or deep tissue damage)

If you ever want to pull a punch, you can choose to withhold dice from a test, but you have to decide that before rolling any of the dice.

Dropping out of combat at this point.

All the thugs are nursing full stun bars and various levels of physical damage.

Bumping us to keep us current.

Hey all--I'm dropping off for the rest of the week. Look for bumps on Monday when I am back from GenCon.

Anyone with an appropriate knowledge skill (TN 6) (Gang ID etc.) will recognize that these guys are local street thugs for an all ghoul gang called the Flesh Eaters.

Feel free to talk amongst yourselves but please don't stray too far from the clinic.

Hey all I talked with McQuillan last night to get the dirt from GenCon Indy and I mentioned converting this game to SR4 especially since they have Street Magic out now. Any interest?

Totally interested!

I'd ask who has access to Street Magic...

Right now I believe there may still be a few things that are lost in the conversion simply because not every ability has been updated for SR4. If people want to look at their characters and think about the conversion process we can talk about it over the next few days. For ease of continuity, I would probably continue in the same timeline, which will effect the Hackers and Technomancers (both of which are so prevalent in our group... ) and state that wireless access still is not available.

I've got the .pdf of Street Magic. So I'll be reading it over the next few days and figuring out how Edana, Herne and the Uber-Whip-of-Astral-Annihilation fit into the picture.

I'd be more then willing. I think a number of abilities didn't carry over, but no biggie, there's new ones.

It's going to be a bit of an adjustment dropping down to the lower power level though. Just to double check, how much karma did the characters have at char gen again?

Karma was left fairly vague...for the new comers it was make a character and we can adjust the power levels slightly.

For Edana, she was initially built at 100 Karma, earned 40 weekly karma from Chasing the Prize, plus some incidentals, and as of next week you will have earned a total of 52 more karma for Balance Due. Some of that was spent on Initiations and skill ups...

I'd be comfortable saying +200 karma and 50k after the initial 400 bp. Though because of the slightly skewed economy, the 50k may be lessened if people seem to have a lot more money and gear than the SR3 incarnations.

So talked some more with McQuillan about the thread and he said to run it all past you folks.

I would like to convert to SR4 (so I can start learning the system better and stop confusing myself switching back and forth) and then I would like to get us back on track with the storyline. I think we have 4 stable players now (Fenris, Sparky, Shadow and me). Word on the street as they say is that Shadow has dropped off because of moving and should be back to more regular posting afterwards.

So I would like to recruit one more player with the understanding that we are looking for a very committed player who can commit to posting at least once a week if not more. What I am looking for from you all is whether or not you have enough interest in this thread to do the work in a timely fashion and get it back on track. Sound off and let me know.

I did most of the heavy lifting on SR4ifying Edana this weekend. But she's got some major MAJOR holes. But a lot of cool new things too. :/ McQ? You ready?

I'm all for getting the thread back on track. I like the characters, the concepts, and am definitely up for revamping the character.

Anybody have ideas on a fifth?

I was going to offer up Blitz, I've played with her before and she is also looking to get more experience in the new rule set as well. That's my input.

I'm comfortable with adding Blitz if she is interested. (All talk along that thread has come through middlemen.)

What I would really like to see though is a continuation through dealing with Ulick before we implement any sweeping changes. So please all, keep the IC thread moving...if you need anything from me let me know, but right now it looks like it's inter-party dialogue.

You got it boss man. I believe we are waiting for an answer from Edana at this poitn in the IC thread.

I'll see your bump, and raise you.

Enchanting (to see if I know about talking foci)
01 05 08 09 09 11

Magic background test: 11 05 05 03 02 02 02 02 01 01

Anything 'bout spirits that might help?

Conjuring background test: 03 03 02

bleh, karma: 09 03 01

Nothing on enchanting.

Magic background: Foci have been used before as anchors for ritual spellcasting, which include communication spells such as mindlink.