Well I do have a response 5 and hacking 5.

Anyone ever watch those "Worst Moments in Sports" things, where you've got three or four pro ball players converging on where a fly ball is going to come down, and then it just plops to the ground between them all....

Is it possible that the current stall is something like that?

Having two hackers is a GOOD thing. Let's make the most of it!

Methinks someone needs to step forward and take charge.

Anyone with Technical knowledge skills can throw some dice out, as can individuals with actual hacking and computer skills.

Nanotechnology, Cybertechnology, and Hardware would all be applicable, as well as, Current Events, Conspiracy Theories and the like. Everything gets you info, some more relevant than others.

Hackers--I need analyze, exploit and the like rolls from you folks. If you aren't sure what to roll, just tell me what you want to do and I will roll the dice for you.

Non-Hackers--There has been talk about breaking into the bar. Are you going to move forward with that plan while these two wrestle with the drugs?

Fortune--When do you plan on inserting yourself?

Hardware + Logic = 10 , Nano cloud what?
2 hits = 3 1 2 5 1 2 3 4 6 3

Analyze 5 (Using Pestos Commlink) + Hacking 4 = 9 , Nano cloud? Why's it so fuzzy...
3 hits Glitch! = 5 4 1 1 5 1 1 5 2

Exploit 5 + Hacking 4 = 9 Seeing through the clouds
4 hits = 1 6 2 6 6 2 6 2 2

He he ...

I am at work now and will give you a bunch of rolls this evening when I get home.

I would roll for Sun but Tech not her thing...

Actually I don't have a bunch of rolls, no relevent knowledge skills. I can give a teamwork roll on the analyze exploit test though.

Analyze 5 + Hacking 5 = 2,1,3,2,3,5,6,3,2,4 = 2 Hits = 2 more dice for Bubbles

Exploit 5 + Hacking 5 = 1,1,5,6,5,5,3,1,5,5 = 6 Hits = 6 more dice for Bubbles

I will be on vacation and away from a computer from July 27th through July 31st. NPC Pesto as needed.

@amra - have a great trip!

Wow - this thread's seen some dry spells, but this might be a record.

Rather than let Al try to force things forward in his usual annoying and blustery manner, maybe I'll just offer a quick OOC summary of what we have been up to and where we are at.

We decided to try hacking the drug nanite cloud and then - possibly - break into Bar Krutenau.

Initial attempt by our two hackers found that the nanites severed/killed any parts of the cloud that were hacked - useful, but no actual paydata gleaned.

Al suggested playing with the cloud's density and trying to hack again.

Pesto agreed that was a good idea, so Al pumped all but one cannister of the drug into his internal air tank.

It remains for one or both of the two hackers our team is blessed with to try the hack again.

Or, to just say IC they are not/no longer interested in that, in which case Al can just step out of the van and vent the crap.

Then we can consider how best to break into the bar.

And hopefully at some point our elven gunbunny will make a grand and long-awaited reentrance.

expect a bump from me in a few hours. I was hoping that the hackers would get some dice rolls up, but I will push them along myself.

I was waiting on Dire since Bubbles is the official hacker. Pesto doesn't want to step on any toes.

I need help. Don't even know what to roll. And Bubbles got big toes, hard not to step on them so go ahead. She probably won't even notice.

I took care of the rolls, see the IC post.

Bishop - just an initial once-around for the nuts and bolts of the target.

Obvious stuff I was looking for -

Surrounding shops (mostly just need to know if they are open or not and what sort of traffic is around).

Bar is stand-alone building, or one floor (which) of larger structure?

Alley on one side? Two sides?

Besides front door, is there a rear door? Take pictures of all doors, send to Bubbles.

Windows? Basement?

A few other things are not so obvious - I'll just make one lump perception test -

Already looked for cameras on the street when we picked up Axe. Cameras elsewhere?

Cars parked out front that were there before?

Sounds from inside?

Perception + Intuition = 6 dice

2 5 2 1 4 4 = 1 hit is better than none

Bubbles should try to scan for wireless nodes and Pesto will use the visual inspection to see if there are any ways to sneak the small drone in.

Surrounding shops (mostly just need to know if they are open or not and what sort of traffic is around).
No shops are open at this hour. There is an assortment of cheap eateries nearby, all closed.

Bar is stand-alone building, or one floor (which) of larger structure?
Bar is a stand-alone building, with alleys on two sides and a service road behind. The eateries nearby are a series of connected buildings.

Besides front door, is there a rear door? Take pictures of all doors, send to Bubbles.
Pictures are taken, there is a front door, back door, and beer hatch (hinting at a cellar) There are two windows along the front of the building, which are each roughly a meter high by two meters wide, placed so that patrons sitting at nearby tables can look out.

There are no additional cameras that you see beyond what you noticed earlier. The same cars from your initial drive by are still there. None are parked directly in front of the bar, but they are on the street near other buildings. You are unable to make out any sounds from within the bar.

DireRadiant
Rolling Computer + Analyze will scan the building itself. To investigate the security system, you'd have to first break into the bar's node.

Ah - the perennial "defaulting to atts for computer tests" question. Whole threads worth of contention on that can of worms. Power to you, Dire. Good luck.

By the way, were you and amra talking about scanning for the building's security system, or just scanning the building for active PANs to decide if there was anyone in there?

@Bishop - back at van looking at pix - are there maglocks on the doors? Mechanical locks? Could a (small, double-jointed) human get through the beer hatch? Heck, I don't even know what a beer hatch is!

I'll assume that the windows were either opaque or that there was no one obviously moving around in them when I went past...

On the back door (on the service road, I presume), are there dumpsters or anything else that would screen at least one side while working on the door? If so, the van, well-placed on the street, might screen the other side.

Regarding either door or beer hatch, any cracks under doors big enough for Clara to slip through?

Sorry to have so many questions - you no how it is planning a set-piece penetration (even if it's just a bar). Any questions that don't have useful answers feel free to ignore!

Dire--Detecting the Node, is EW+Scan you are correct. The Comp+Analyze was to find information out about the system, such as rating and alert status.

Without the skill, just roll the program rating as you basically push "Analyze" and don't have the bakgd to assist the computer for additional success. (If something comes out in unwired, we'll deal with that in the future...)

Adamu--
There are maglocks on the 2 doors, the beer hatch is sealed from the inside. A beer hatch is basically a delivery door for when kegs are delivered. The barman opens the door and raises a platform on which the kegs are placed and then lowered down. Shaun of the Dead near the end of the movie shows one from the inside perspective.

Windows have a light coating on them to make them clear from the inside and reflective on the outside. Peering in very closely you can see that the tables do not have anyone at them.

The beer hatch has about a 1/2" gap. Someone with a crowbarcould open it slightly more to create a gap for a fly-spy drone to enter. There are dumpsters in the service road that look to have been dumped yesterday. There is a small amount of trash in them.

Shaun of the Dead - great movie. Remember that scene. Cool. So basically, not intended for human (or zombie) use, but doable.

Well people, depending on what Bubbles turns up computer-wise, best bet might be screening one end of the service road with the van out on the street, with dumpsters for cover on the other side. Then send Clara in through the basement. If what Clara or Bubbles finds leaves us still wanting to go in, I have a feeling the maglock won't last long with Bubbles working on it.

Need to think about WHO goes in. amra28 - Pesto runs Clara from van, or you want to go in?

Bubbles obviously needed for door.

Al? He wants beer!

Sun??? Go in? Be ready to fast talk anyone that shows up from outside?

And of course, if we run it to trouble, well, it'd sure be nice if we suddenly had a teammate who was, oh, I don't know, a real badass with guns show up....

And Bishop - hate to bring up an unpleasant topic, but should we - uh - well, maybe Mitch should be on guard duty outside...or...

Just getting the planning started - nothing final, of course...

EW 3 + Scan 4 = 7 (Extended test)
2 Hits 5 4 3 3 2 4 6
2 Hits 4 5 2 3 2 4 6
1 Hits 1 3 3 1 6 2 3
1 Hits 2 2 4 4 4 5 2

As a side note, Computer is supposedly a defaultable skill.

Analyze 4
1 hit 3 5 2 1

Has it been explained IC to Bubbles why we need to get into the bar?

Has it been explained to ANYONE?

Admittedly, we are running a pink-mohawk-crowd seat-of-the-pants operation.

Short answer - beer.

Real answer - probably not straight out.

The original idea was to wait for it to open and just check it out as a lead, since the Ragman had a matchbook from the place.

I assume Bubbles knows that, that she saw it as we passed it around. I know we talked about it.

Then the place got more interesting when, arriving, we found a guy known by Al to be a fairly badass player murdered by drugs sitting right outside the place, having been dragged from inside.

I know Bubbles knows about that.

So then the idea did come up IC that sooner might be better than later (and then the GM seemed to encourage the idea), and here we are.

So no, I don't think it was ever explicitly laid out, but Bubbles was there for all the key events leading up to the decision...

More than happy to hash it out IC, though. Always can use more character-character dialogue. Heck, that's half the fun.

Alright, as long as it's clear it's unclear.

Sun will stay outside as look out and for dealing with interested parties.

@BishopMcQ Pesto was waiting for the operation at the Ragman to finish and leave before he brought the drone back.

@Team I was suggesting to look for nodes of commlinks inside to see if there are any people in there. Of course hacking the security system is the next suggestion.

Pesto will stay in the van.

Technically, as far as I know (can't check the FAQ), Computer is only a default Skill when dealing directly with a Device itself (like a toaster or a camera or a ... computer). When actual Programs are involved, there is no mechanism for defaulting (no Attribute is in use), therefore the character must possess both the Skill and the Program for it to work. That being said, Hacking should almost always be a viable substitute for Computer.

You invested the points in Logic, the skill says it can be defaulted, use the appropriate attribute-1 in place of skill and call it a day. In cases where the skill cannot be defaulted, push the big red button on the program and pray that it does what you wanted. I think this gives the player the best chance to succeed.

Is it able to be abused? Yes, though as long as there is communication between the player and the GM I think we will be fine. (And personally I prefer this to the Logic 1 Hacker)

Well, gee, as long as we're all chiming in with our non-GM opinions, I have always been strongly on the same side of this controversy that Bishop came down on.

Now you can't bitch!

Never bitching - actively inviting!

Combine taking a close look at Sun now (although Al takes lots of close looks at her - and is none too subtle about it) with a memory test of past appearances.

Trying to figure out if there is something distinctive that holds true about her appearance whatever guise she takes.
Perception
Intuition + Skill = 6 dice
1 1 5 6 3 6 = 3 successes

Memory
Logic + Willpower = 9 dice
3 4 3 5 5 5 3 4 5 = 4 successes

She's always been wearing a lacy choker with an art deco brooch on it. Was wondering when this would come up

Oh while it's on my mind I'm away in a field from the 23rd (thursday) til the 27th (nex monday). Sun will keep her head down and her eyes open.

Ok, GenCon did a good example of eating my brain, and the timechange is still looming but I am now back.

Can I get a Sensor + Pilot roll from the drone, or percetion is Pesto is jumped in? (I'm presuming the fly drone is heading into the bar...)

Any last minute plans of attack before I push the initial intel on the bar, and a return of our gunfighter with his solar escort?

Pesto is jumped in.

Sensor + Perception = 3,5,6,5,4,2 = 3 Hits