What's going on in post-occupation San Francisco?
Who were the post-coup puppet presidents before Colloton? And what happened to Vice-President Daviar?
Is Cross Applied Technologies still around in any way, shape or form? If not, who's the big dog in Quebec now?
What nations exist in Africa outside the Gold Coast?
Does the Chinese "puzzle" of nations still exist?
What became of the elven Tir leadership? Do elves still make up the majority?
Is the Draco Foundation still active?

Same thing. David Gavilan is Damien Knight

Your welcome. The "historical" movement to make the base into a military installation might be the main reason. What better place to hide something from watchful eyes? Pretty good placeholder if it is one.



Maybe Zincan has powerful protectors and is just a figurehead? Protectors that think IEs are good eatin´?


He would be a shapeshanger with a split personality. He communicates with his "wolf form", and gets power when giving control to Wolf. That makes possession-traditions with (adapted) mentor spirit Wolf and summoned beast spirits a good fit. Weres are hybrids that consider both forms natural.

Forgot Lucien. He is dead, he won´t care.



There are hints of a Kingdom Under The Mountain in the german books I think.

Hvaldos, only in Novels as far as i know . . but hell i would love for that to be official *-*

Zincan survived because of sheer orkiness! Orks seriously rock and elves, well, elves just don't! Without that rockin'ness factor Alaichia just wouldn't stand a chance.

Is he now?

All the evidence of that is digital, and could be easily faked...

Griffins are what you get when a lion and an eagle have sex. It is a rare occurrence in the wild, but more common when both are kept together in captivity.


More realisticly, a Wizard did it. Someone with an odd sense of humor took an eagle and a lion and put them together using the Earthdawn Wizard spell Alter Life, created more either through the same process or via magical cloning, and then the two griffins matted and produced more griffins. When the mana level droped below what was necessary to sustain a magically altered life form they reverted to either lions or eagles and passed their griffin genes down to the line until the Awakening.

I know that, but Lucien Cross was forgotten in the equation ^_^ I only wanted to point that out... I really do like the CatCo back history... it's a shame that this is not much exploited anymore.

AH, are you recording this? I want badly to know if the Seraphims are still around... ^_^

And if ANYTHING fails during a solar flare, everyone on board this station is dead. Brilliant system, especially when the most powerful political gremium on SR earth is on board, right? And a solar Flare will disrupt ANY radio-based communication.


It was very much dumbed down in the follow-up germany book. Was it in the Germany SB FASA released, though? Then it technically would still be international canon.

CATco is still around, but lost it's AAA status.

i don't think it's in an official sourcebook, but i have been proven wrong before *g*

It's been referred to in DidS and DidS 2. Whether it's also made it's way into Germany SB is something I don't know.

ok, so it's semi offical canon at best . . one of my character concepts actually was based on the myths about subterranian dwarven kingdoms . . how it is now, the character in question will still go insane trying to prove that there is something down there *g*
there needs to be a 4th ed germany/europe book with detailed information to make it legit!
preferably written by our dear aunty ancient ^^

Personally, I'd be more interested in what became of Tir na nOg (or rather, how much they choose to trample and destroy it in 4). But yes. Preferrably a myths of Europe book covering al the mysticalaspects of the continent, from prague's shedim trap church to the Bretagne fog to the Tirs (including Pomorya)

And now for an OT question:
- If the Heavenherds are Thera, Tir Taingire is Sereatha, and Tir na nOg is Blood Forest, would Pomorya be Shosara? Or would that rather be Trans-Latvia?

The Blood Wood is actually in Chernobyl.

-Frank

Yes, but it's population (the remainder, meaning Alachia and a few others) are in TNN and playing elven court there.

that's so fitting i don't know if i should laugh or weep O.o

Where'd this come from?

more or less allways been that way . . earthdawn for the most part was located in what is today europe and asia as far as i remember . .

Just for the record, despite his excellent contributions to Spirits in Street Magic and Medtech and CZs in Augmentation, Frank Trollman is not responsible for the advanced cyberlimb rules, someone else is.


Sort of... Here is the untold and unofficial story of the Black Lodge and the Vigilia Evangelica.


Please note that according to SR4 material Pendragon has been MIA since shortly after the Crash 2.0 and the Oxford Student Riots.

Just take a look at this map from the Thera sourcebook.

The Heavenherds fled from Thera across the world. The different elven nations appear to be IE factions.

The Theran Empire (ED) has a map that shows Sereatha rather exactly where Latvia is.

TNN is populated by the blood-wood faction. That may be mainly due to Alachia. Apparently they fled from their original location across the sea, and their arrival created several myths.

Pomorya is the northernmost region of ED Vasgothia. The map shows that most of Pomorya would be the former Deep Forest of Vasgothia, a place where Vasgothias passions fought the horrors to the death. The woman of power, a large statue, has an all-female cult following. The head-priestess speaks a language that is similar to Sperethiel, but is way more complicated. Interesting ED fact: Under the deep forest is a net of tunnels named Earthswallowers Pattern, made by the GD of the same name. A net of tunnels is what brought fun for LA. But I´m getting off the track. No clue which elven faction is in Pomorya.

Interesting. There's supposedly one under Pomorya too (where weirdly deformed, light sensitive Elves suffering from some sort of mysterious disease live).

And TT is pretty much the Sereatha troupe, isn't it (and Alachia since apparently, they're incapable of getting rid of their queen completely). So that leaves Shosara to be 'accounted for' in ED. Since the others all have relocated, I don't see why they shouldn't. Though why they chose that rather wretched place ...

I don't think you can draw a direct line between any of the old Elven Kingdoms from Earthdawn, and their modern day descendants. Their is just too much cross pollination. Alachia and the Oakforest clan are clearly Blood Elves and are located in Tir Tairngire. Ehran who I suspect was in the Theran faction was also in TT for a long time. I presume many of the TNN IE's are from Shosara (especially seeing as how Shosara is now apparently going to be located in Sweden) essentially since we can see that Harlequin does not get along with either grouping we can stretch a bit and assume (I know reaching) neither is based on Sereatha.

Shosara is in Russia (or on the ocean floor), somewhere at the White Sea.

Yes, it was. I was using an expression. The 25 Karma is hearby awarded to you, RunnerPaul.

What happens to all that Karma that goes to the creepy, sleazy Free Spirit on the corner in the dirty trenchcoat when he gives you money?

he takes it back into his shabby old van and has his spirit-fun

@Ryu Shosara was in Russia most likely near Arkhangelsk at one point however Redbrick has a supplement in the works about it, and unfortunately it has been moved to Sweden. Retconned because the map was "inaccurate" or "fuzzy" as to its location, needless to say many feel it is a stretch.

Do you really want to know what a sleezy free-spirit does with Karma?

It would be a question that would be frequently unanswered.

Personally, I figure he just goes into the Astral Plane, with the same dirty trenchcoat, and sells them as drugs to the Spirits there...

Thanks for the info, even if that retcon puzzles me. Any reason for that at all?

I always assumed the Shosarans in TT were those who left the city because Shosara started dealing with humans?

And there is correllation between Sereatha and TT, very much in fact. Erhan is actually mentioned in 'Harlequin' as being from the city of spires. Oakforest is a Sereatha native too, though he spent the Plague in Blood Wood (lucky him). Jenna is, too, I think ... but I'm not sure about that.

And no, you cannot really draw a direct line, but the IEs TEND to sort by faction, still. Hence my question about Pomorya ... it being founded by Shosaran IE would actually give it some kind of sense with regards to the SR background.

I believe Jenna is the late daughter of Alachia. I think she is adressed as somewhat of an inexperienced youth in Worlds Without End.

Uncle Ancient's Immortals Rollcall

As far as I was concerned there was no good reason to move it, however they decided that it fit better overall especially with some intended tie ins elsewhere (all sort of vague). The arguments for the move were in my mind pretty weak, but they got the license and all the product they have put out to date has been quality, so I am of the mind to sit back and wait for it to come out.

I guess this means I gotta turn the nuyen back in?
Does that make this a cash-for-karma deal?

Whats the deal with Leonardo? Magically and resonance active?

Of which supplement do you speak?

Ah, why did you have to bring up the most boring IE ever?

The argument was started by the comment on the bottom of page four http://www.earthdawn.com/forum/index.php?topic=410.45and continues, with Dammi giving official word. I don't believe there is ever a name given for the future supplement.

aside from him being obviously immortal . . is there any indication for him being magically active and not just resonance in the shadowrun-timeline? o.O

Is the Free Spirit that does this kind of deal even sleazier than the one that does the Karma-For-Cash?

Ah, the Elven Nations sourcebook:


Wonder what's the status of it?

I would like to see some kinda Dunky's Will part duex. Stories and information about what parts of the will have been fulfilled and by whom.

Reminds me of the South Park episode about Cartman's evolved Sea Monkeys.

"Yea, I got the whole jug for free. Just had to suck it out of a hose!!"


We have a Free Spirit in our game that runs a casino and often does Karma for Cash transactions through the games of chance at his place.

He died in the second Great Ghost Dance during the war against Spider (in the novel Find Your Own Truth).



Nice 10 karma for that really good explanation.



He displays magical capability in the end of Black Madonna, and is a questor of one of the Earthdawn Passions that he perceives/displays as Isis.

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Now for some questions:

Did Sam Verner/Twist ever get his magical capability back or not?
Did Kyle Teller ever find his wife and kid, and did they survive the CZ?
Did Moleskin just see the future and inspire the Temple of Prima based on that, or is Prima a real Passion?
Are Passions/Idols/Totems etc real beings, or just echoes of the magician's beliefs?
Were Verjigorm and his spawn truly responsible for the creation of the Namegiver races and the world as we know it (ie is Verjigorm God)? If so, how did Verjigorm come into being?
Are the horrors that slipped through at the end of Worlds Without End still active, which ones were they, and what are their stats?
Is Krista Fried (Night's Pawn and Target Smugglers Havens) alive or dead?
Did magic work in a consistent - if extremely minor - way during the down cycle, or only in mana spikes?

Where is Captain Chaos buried?

Forgot some questions:

What even happened to Sally Tsung and Ghost (who are both likely pushing 50 now)?
Are Dr Raven, Kid Stealth, and Wolf still running?
What happened to Striper?
Did Dodger survive the second Crash? (IIRC he was at the IPO)
What's going on with Hangfire and Neon Samurai (and is the latter a decker, street sam, or both - I was never too clear on that)?
Did Kham finally die of old age or go out in a blaze of glory?

Semiseriously:
Captain Chaos is buried with his cyberdeck in the foundations of the now defunct Seattle Shadowland's retirement home. He still hacks the matrix and tells kids to get off his astroturf.

Striper is in "Runner's Companion".

Kham is in "Runner's Havens".