I have a better idea, why wait for THEM to come to us? Let's keep every kind of tab on their movement and actions and INVADE the horrors. There are several things that would work to our advantage.

1. Surprise

No-one in their right mind would suspect their food to attack them, how many times did your food in the refridgerator jump out and assault you?

2. Odd Allies

We need to see how they live and possible negotiate with some low-life horror who could be corrupted by the charisma 14 elf conjurer with a Etiquette modifier of -10 to the TN and with a specialization of "Bribe Horror" "Horrible negotiations 101" and "Astral Fast Talk"

3. Beachhead Assault

If we get to THEM first they have to knock that station out as well before they can go through. Release FAB3 bacteria in their metaplane combined with soap operas, cheap beer and cheap drugs.

4. Dump an astral nuke in their metaplane.

Take a powerful sustaining foci with a sustained area effect slay horror spell at a nice F20. Have harlequin or a good suicidal dragon walk over to the astral plane and put the foci in the middle of "the bridge". Cast spell and run like hell. Anything coming within a 1000 meters of that astral detonation and has the name "Horror" somewhere is pretty much screwed.

5. A new frontier to explore. Well, it COULD be something fun out there...

That'll work badly, if at all, while the only connection is the bridge. Once the sides have met, it'd be like sealing the US-Canada border only harder. Besides, Devourer would have a field day with the guards.

~J

Edit: and the food in my refrigerator attacks rather frequently

What happens when they fall off the bridge? Do they go splat? Or can they climb up the other side? If so, what is stopping them for climbing down their side of the cliff and climbing up ours?

Oh, one more thing, there's gravity on the metaplane?

You can't sustain combat spells.

As for the "falling-down-and-climbing-back-up", you're stretching the metaphor of the plane too far. If anything, there isn't actually a bottom and falling off either leads to certain death or a return to the plane they were coming from.

~J

Who knows what kind of spells we will be able to sustain in 2000+ years. In earthdawn they could build a friggin castle from pure air so in 2000+ years we will probably have a tank built from awakened nanites and made into a spell foci with an all awakened initiate crew firing "Kill IT" spells and horror eating bacteria called FAB XXIII or something.

I wouldn't worry because I *don't* think that horrors would actually take any weapons with them. It's more feasible for them to work behind the scenes and we will end up fighting ourselves when those loyal to horrors show themselves. That is why I think one should strike first.

Ok, so I can't sustain combat spells, In that case I create a manipulation spell that "Disitegrate Horrors" or something equally nice.

Hmm, how would a horror on the physical plane enjoy to get hit by a narcoject dart filled with FAB?

passions, let it stop!

hehe that said, glad we are all playing along in my absence.

Potentially, but there was a discussion elsewhere where it was suggested that by canon sustaining things like that has eventual nasty effects (background count, etc). Now, this background count probably wouldn't be Horror-aspected, but it's still not a good thing for humans.

~J

Oh yeah, the Fire Elemental powered blast furnace. I forgot that one...

Ysrthgrthe is *also* the man, though a lot less than C's H. IIRC, it's MO is to pick a victim, mark them, and torment them, all well and good. The difference is that Ysrthgrthe gets very protective of its chosen victim, and if anyone or anything else tries to hurt them, Ysrthgrthe destroys them. So there's a really nice love-hate thing going on here.

Y's also really into being briefly nice to the victim, just to keep them doubting what's going on.

I forgot about the immortality thing with Chantrel's Horror. That adds a ton of goodness to the whole thing.

It's actually amusing... a few Horrors will in fact assist their victims in combatting other Horrors (Hunter of Hunters, Cauthrunne) before doing horrible things to them.
Ysrthgrthe is having some problems with becoming a bit too human, though...

~J

Hunter of Hunters likes to imitate a Horror Stalker and join up with another such Namegiver. They journey off, defeat a Horror, and then Hunter of Hunters challenges the real Horror Stalker. It takes a particular delight in killing the Stalkers, hence its name.
Cauthrunne gives people weaponry and armor that are used in battle of any variety.
Then there's also Twiceborn and her handlers who have their own designs and will fight any Horror getting in the way of them.
And no, Ysrthgrth won't be sacrificing himself for the cause anytime soon. As previously mentioned, he's becoming relatively human in that he's becoming jealous of others playing with his toys and very attached to those he feeds on. Makes him less likely to cooperate with the Horrors, actually, though cooperation is not something we have to worry about anytime soon.

~J

I just opened up the old Horrors book to page 59.

Thus my view of this debate has changed.

Yes, you can beat the horrors, it will give you the strength to crush them all, and then the magic to break those that strength cannot crush, and then it will help you win at chess, and then it will help you open that stupid jar of pickles... Then you will look in a mirror and see that you have become a puppet, all you fought to make you will personally destroy, all you thought beautiful you will personnally tarnish, and then with nothing else worth believing in, you will merely fight, kill and die.

Eeewwwww. So you and your group rub one out at every gathering? That must be hell on the drycleaning or carpet cleaning. Not to even mention how many pages of your BBB get stuck together.


Horrors are a bunch of featherweights. A group of sadistic evil runners with cracked up characters can do more evil and harm to the world.


But me. I prefer smoking up. Lots of it. My character home grows and passes around to children, waiters, bellboys, the Johnson. He did a job for the Carribean League and requested the payment be all in leaf.

Who was on page 59 again?

~J

Tempter.

True indeed.

~J

Not so unfounded. I'll mention more about this particular Horror when I get home to my books, unless someone else beats me to it.

~J

Mmm, Tempter. See, there's just so many Horrors out there that make one go "aghaghaghaghagh..." I love those guys.

won't be me that beats ya, kage. i just packed away all my rpg books in anticipation of moving next week

Working on a reply, but due to an injury my left arm is out of comission for a while (deep cut, keeping it elevated until the bleeding stops) so it'll be a little while.

~J

You alright?

(not that I could do anything form here...but I thought I'd ask)

Basically, Tempter latches onto an individual, typically one of honor and with a strong sense of duty, and then starts offering advice and suggestions. At first it's all legit and in accordance with the principles of the
marked individual, and in a tight spot Tempter offers to help them out with a Karma Boost. As time goes by, the advice becomes more and more questionable as to whether or not it fits the character's code of conduct, and the karma boosts offered for more and more trivial matters. Eventually this aid is accepted once too often and the Marked individual becomes a construct.

~J

Edit: Yep, mostly alright. If I weren't. I'd be off getting medical attention instead of writing this post
Thanks for asking, though.

Just the one, claims to be "a benign entity cruelly slandered in legend". The really dangerous part of it is that this Horror is capable of providing large amounts of help when someone needs it the most, so it's very hard to resist. To compare, this Horror is worth a full third more Legend Points than Chantrel's Horror.

~J

Tempter would be pretty bad, especially since by nature it tends to go for the more influential and powerful people, the "pillars of society". Start them going bad, and no one knows who to trust. Chantrel's is probably the most... well, horrific of the Horrors, but unless Chantrel's started hitting at a time when many leaders of metahumanity were vivid dreamers, it wouldn't probably be all that important to the overall battle. On the other hand, Tempter would be swaying those best equipped to combat the Horrors.
As for what it sounds like, it probably sounds like a spirit that has decided to accompany you. Not necessarily mistakeable for one's own voice, but not impersonating an ancestor either. It's pretty much assumed that it won't be trusted at first, but after the advice turns out to be spot on for a while, and it helps the target out of a really tight spot that one time...

~J

Postscript: off topic, is it bad if you can see white through a cut in your arm? Not bone, probably subcutaneous fat, but it's still unnerving.

Thanks; I figured about the scar, I've managed to keep the bleeding down (disturbingly far, actually, considering the depth of the cut...). Bleeding has stopped with the pressure of the bandage, though if I take it off it starts bleeding again (though not quickly, just sorta seeping blood).
Ah, antibiotics. Time to go find some of those...

~J