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toturi
Yeah... no need to jump the gun. We'll nuke the Horrors in good time. biggrin.gif
Kagetenshi
QUOTE (toturi)
Yeah... no need to jump the gun. We'll nuke get corrupted, subverted, and ultimately defeated by the Horrors in good time. biggrin.gif

Fixed grinbig.gif

~J
Xavroc
That sounds about right. biggrin.gif I wanna see a group of SRs take on Verjigorm...
Toptomcat
They'd go 'squish.'
Or 'clunk' in the case of the troll sam.
Thanos007
I can't belive this thread is still going. Almost a whole year between two posts and here we are again. Wow...


Thanos
kevyn668
Heh.
Shockwave_IIc
round and round it goes, when it will, stop no one knows.....
paul_HArkonen
QUOTE
They'd go 'squish.'
Or 'clunk' in the case of the troll sam.


Actually I think you mean they'd go "AHHHHHHH" *BAM*BAM*BAM* *Clunk*, *Squish* followed by" Mage: 'AHHHHHHHHH,' *twitch* *explosion of flames* *squish*"
sidartha
Hey! Dunkelzhan belived that given time metahumanity could overcome the Horrors. And I've ALWAYS been one to place my trust in the talons of a Great Dragon. notworthy.gif dead.gif
toturi
QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
QUOTE (toturi @ Dec 14 2004, 11:32 AM)
Yeah... no need to jump the gun. We'll nuke get corrupted, subverted, and ultimately defeated by the Horrors in good time. biggrin.gif

Fixed grinbig.gif

~J

Actually it would be the other way around... We're so evil that even the Horrors will flee from us.
kevyn668
Damn straight.
Kagetenshi
AH, you hanging around? If you've got the time, we could use the text of Ysrthgrathe's open letter to humanity.

~J
toturi
I know about the open letter, it just reinforces my claim that Humans are meaner than the Horrors. They're spawned that way, we actually work hard at it.
Kagetenshi
That's what Tempter and Bone Crown are for.

~J
toturi
And that's what Stalin, Hitler and Pol Pot are for.
Ancient History
QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
AH, you hanging around? If you've got the time, we could use the text of Ysrthgrathe's open letter to humanity.

~J

I'm working on a Revised Annotated Dunk's Will at the moment, but I might conceivably sit down and write that down at some point.
Kanada Ten
QUOTE (toturi)
I know about the open letter, it just reinforces my claim that Humans are meaner than the Horrors. They're spawned that way, we actually work hard at it.

Which just means that they're winning. We're turning into them.
toturi
QUOTE (Kanada Ten)
QUOTE (toturi @ Dec 14 2004, 09:21 PM)
I know about the open letter, it just reinforces my claim that Humans are meaner than the Horrors. They're spawned that way, we actually work hard at it.

Which just means that they're winning. We're turning into them.

We're not turning into them... They are obsolete. We're newer and better.
kevyn668
Yep. That's what we do: evolve. (...stronger, faster, meaner, better...)

Kanada Ten
QUOTE (toturi)
QUOTE (Kanada Ten @ Dec 15 2004, 10:33 AM)
QUOTE (toturi @ Dec 14 2004, 09:21 PM)
I know about the open letter, it just reinforces my claim that Humans are meaner than the Horrors. They're spawned that way, we actually work hard at it.

Which just means that they're winning. We're turning into them.

We're not turning into them... They are obsolete. We're newer and better.

6 to one, half dozen to the other. If you become what you fight, you've lost.
toturi
We're not becoming what we fight, we're becoming better than what we fight.
kevyn668
There are plenty of examples of this. Look at The Punisher or Batman (the Dark Knight version).
toturi
Oh, and talking about Batman? I've discovered a truism about Bats... He never loses. Even if he loses, he wins. Batman always wins.

Even if metahumanity loses, we win. Humans always win.
Gyro the Greek Sandwich Pirate
I'm sure there's a clever way to get the horrors that isn't going into space or nuking them.

I'll get back to you all when I think of one. sarcastic.gif
akarenti
QUOTE (Gyro)
I'm sure there's a clever way to get the horrors that isn't going into space or nuking them.


There is. In the 4th world, there was a Theran province in modern-day India. The holy-men of the indiginous people were aware of the magical cycle and the coming Scourge. Instead of hiding or fighting, however, 144 of the holiest men in their culture engaged in a sort of meditation, charging the area with positive, peaceful emotion. The Scourge never came to the province in anywhere near the force it did elsewhere, and the culture survived the Scourge intact, without resorting to the Rites of Protection and Passage (pp. 72-74, The Theran Empire).

So, if you get enough holy-men together with a purpose and appropriate rituals, you can basically create background count that's aspected against Horrors and their magic. Which, in turn, makes Horrors avoid the area.

Kind of makes a go at explaining why Lung (the nearest GD to India) is so keen on spirituality, doesn't it?
Ancient History
Within the Mind of Ysrthgrathe

The following account was excerpted from the journal of Noleta of Iopos. Most schoalrs believe Noleta was possessed by the Horror called Ysrthgrathe at the time she wrote these words, and that they represent the thoughts of the Horror itself. If this is true, then these passages are a truy invaluable record of the consciousness of a powerful and deadly Horror. Noleta killed herself shortly after committing these words to paper.
-Elko Mar, apprentice scholar, Library of Throal, 1507 TH

I had forgotten what the world felt like to a Name-giver form. It is a pity that this body is all but used up, for I have had such enjoyment with it. But it has been all too short, far too short. Yes, in this body I can remember why Name-givers are always in such a hurry. Their fragile bodies are decaying as they live in them! Each breath they take leads them closer to the grave. What a constant worry that must be for them.

This one foolishly asked for immortality. I gave it to her, of course. Don't I always oblige the requests made of me? But she didn't ask for eternal youth. What an unfortunate oversight.

As I write these words using her withered hands, I bask in the memory of her despair when she realized what she had done. Such wailing and tearful pleadings. But that's always the way of it. These Name-givers are so eager to grasp at what they cannot understand. And then they despair when they realize how they have been misled. Ah, but their cries provide such solace to my soul.

I have known the universe for far longer than I can recall. My memory spans this world, and worlds from long times before; times when we came to the world took it sweet life and caused such beautiful pain. Like now.

True, they were more preapred for us this time. But that only made my work all the more challenging. Their foolish beliefs in their runes and wardings, their childish illusions of saftey and security-how delightful it was to tear their meager protections apart! Not all at once, of course. Granted, such crudity is the hallmark of some of my kind, and in younger times I too took my pleasure quickly and crudely. But age has given me an appreciation of subtelty. I no longer rush to destroy, but rather linger and take what I will slowly.

My honesty no doubt horrifies you Name-givers, for you like to think yourselves better than my kind. But you do not know how we are made in your image. The longer we spend with you, the more like you we become. For do we not feel pain when we are cut? Do we not bleed from our wounds? Do we not take pleasure in our work? Do we not experience what you call the finer emotions?

Without us, you Name-givers would be at each other's throats. Even with the Scourge over, you still battle one another. Over what? Property? We give you something you can look down upon, a dark foil to contrast with your imagined superiority. Without us, you would have to look into your souls and face the ugliness there.

You are greedy and vain, petty and opportunistic. You covet that which is not yours. And sometimes, when coveting is not enough, you take without permission. You trample over each other like elephants-for emtoions, money, land. It doesn't matter. WE are not the evil ones. You are.

But that is neither here nor there.

Personally, I find it most annoying that Name-givers provide such limited vehicles for our pleasures. Oh, I have certainly found more than enough willing to dance with me. But few have fuilfilled my deepest needs. True, the occaisional human or dwarf has withstood years of torment, but they all die unexpectedly and deprive me of my amusement.
Once I managed to trap an obsidiman, but even that experience disappointed me in the end.

I have amused myself from trime to time with these others, but for me the fullest satisfaction came from one source. For years, decades, centuries, I waited for her to come. Our union was a banquet of suffering. All the others were but a preparation for this one, for the wedding of need and longing. I have tried to find solace with others, but I shall always rturn to her-my most constant desire, my faithful victim.

When I rip the love from new prey, does it give me pleasure? A bit, perhaps, but never nearly as much as I took from her. When I steal the self-respect from another, does it please me as well? No. I confess that everything palls before the happiness she gave me. And I shall punish all of them for it. Punish them for not giving me enough of what I need, for not being her.
toturi
Not just Lung... his erstwhile protege Ryumyo as well.

Maybe those Indian Holy Men infused their province with Love. Which was how Karmasutra came about!
Ancient History
They flooded the energy barrier between astral space and the physical world with positive emotional energy, as I recall. However, Akarenti fails to mention that when the mana level stopped dropping, they all vanished into thin air, never to to be seen again. Rather difficult to consult them on their technique, now, is it not?

[/edit] Though I do enjoy the thought of a cult whose motto was "Defeat the Horrors through Ritual Tantric Sex Magic! Make Love. not War!"
Fix-it
wow. Topic is almost a year old.

Voted yes.

Lock and Load.
Gyro the Greek Sandwich Pirate
Ha! So, we win!
Herald of Verjigorm
QUOTE (Ancient History)
[/edit] Though I do enjoy the thought of a cult whose motto was "Defeat the Horrors through Ritual Tantric Sex Magic! Make Love. not War!"

Even if it fails, you had more fun "fighting" that way than the psychos with shotguns.
kevyn668
No worriers. We'd win. Celebration sex for all!! (Even us geeks.)
Fix-it
QUOTE (Herald of Verjigorm)
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Dec 14 2004, 10:55 PM)
[/edit] Though I do enjoy the thought of a cult whose motto was "Defeat the Horrors through Ritual Tantric Sex Magic! Make Love. not War!"

Even if it fails, you had more fun "fighting" that way than the psychos with shotguns.

I'm not so sure about that one...
toturi
Yeah, baby, yeah. Groovy, baby. We've the mojo, baby.
kevyn668
Gimme some sugar.
Kagetenshi
AH: Thanks, I owe you one smile.gif

Horror counter to ritual sex magic: bad sex.

~J
Ancient History
De nada.
toturi
QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
AH: Thanks, I owe you one smile.gif

Horror counter to ritual sex magic: bad sex.

~J

You are wrong... the Horror counter would be No Sex. No sex? The horror! The horror! eek.gif
kevyn668
QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
AH: Thanks, I owe you one smile.gif

Horror counter to ritual sex magic: bad sex.

~J

Silly goose. Have you not heard of the "pizza/sex theorms?"


Sex is like pizza.

Therefore:
1) Even when its bad, its still sex.

Or

2) Even when its bad, its still pizza.

If we take pizza out of the equation, we can assume that, (Bad Sex) = (Still Sex) = "Sex" = (Good Sex)

And since (Any Sex) = Sex = (Good Sex), there can be no "Horror counter to ritual sex: bad sex." Since "bad sex" does not exist.

All "Sex" = "Good Sex"

Duh.

nyahnyah.gif
Ancient History
I'll sign you up for both the "Premature Ejaculation, Manaburn, and You" seminar and the "Toxic Tantric Mages and Prison Rape: A Comparison" lecture at the next Industrial Sex Magic Convention, sponsored by Ryan Mercury, who will be giving a personal briefing on "Sexual Healing".
kevyn668
Sweet.
toturi
Our next episode on the Awakened Sex series on Discovery Channel explores Condom limited Spells and Phallic Power Foci.

History Channel will document the ancient rituals of the 4th World in Sex against Horrors: A question of potency.
Clyde
But can I bring my dikoted AVS ally spirit?
Fresno Bob
Only if you have sex with it.
toturi
This proves the Toturi Theorum which states: All threads will derail into Sex, AVS and Dikoted Ally Spirits.
Kagetenshi
QUOTE (kevyn668)
And since (Any Sex) = Sex = (Good Sex), there can be no "Horror counter to ritual sex: bad sex." Since "bad sex" does not exist.

How the world wishes that this (and to a lesser extent the Pizza Theorem) was remotely close to true.

~J
Fortune
It is for me ... I've never had 'bad' sex, but I've had a lot of mediocre sex that I would repeat in a heartbeat.
Fortune
I have though, had bad pizza! nyahnyah.gif
Lindt
Aye, never bad sex, but defintly bad pizza...

QUOTE
All threads will derail into Sex, AVS and Dikoted Ally Spirits.

Given enough time.
Austere Emancipator
Weird. Since the thread was resurrected, in the last two days the new votes have gone something like 6-to-1 for metahumanity, when it used to be 5-to-4. Oldies are more often horror-fans than newbies?
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