Holy fucking asscrackers, guys, how long are we going to hash this over? I'm concerned about Catalyst, too, but there's sweet fuck-all we can do about it, and the discussion has now resulted in two threads self-destructing. Go read a book or something. Or, you know, play Shadowrun.

Holy fucking asscrackers, guys, how long are we going to hash this over? I'm concerned about Catalyst, too, but there's sweet fuck-all we can do about it, and the discussion has now resulted in two threads self-destructing. Go read a book or something. Or, you know, play Shadowrun.

Yeah, frank sadly went down the religious route and someone rose to the bait and countered with evolution needing the same faith as religion.

You realize of course that killing that thread is FULL CONFIRMATION of the truth in those posts about the Email.

Well, no. Killing the thread was a direct response to violation of the ToS. Randall's letter is as close to full confirmation of anything as you're likely to get.

Wait... did someone actually post the text of the letter while I wasn't looking? Last post I saw it was still just one guy saying he saw the letter somewhere.

Thanks AH
(again; any chance that you'll get to share your PACKS at some point?)

Yes, Frank posted the contents of the letter. Which led fairly directly to us having a bright, shiny, new thread.


If the Runners Toolkit is published without my PACKS, I'll post my PACKS for comparison.

Yes man, you are just far too clever for us on the internet and ahve seen through our clever corporate disguise, hows the doctorate and the first mil coming by the way?

Frank didn't need to post the actual letter. That's not fun. That kind of real information is killing my hope that this is still an april fools day thing.

Well, look what happens when I decide to spend the day with my family!

I'm mainly popping in to say I'm still here to say what I can, but also to insist that there are some things that are private that I will keep private, even if other people don't feel compelled to do so.

Jason H.

Don't feel bad I missed all the excitment too silly me I was playing Shadowrun with my friends .

Don't feel bad I missed all the excitment too silly me I was playing Shadowrun with my friends .

Grexul

My screenname is missing an 'x'.

I tried sending you a private message, but you have them disabled. Anyway, if your name was an innocent mistake and not part of an image you're going for, you can send a message to Adam or most of the other mods here and ask them to change it for you. Adam was kind enough to do so for me when my name was too long for the new forum software (I was going by Doctor Funkenstein then).

Thanks for the info, I haven't found how to enable PMs yet, so I haven't been ale to PM anyone. Grexul has been the name of several my PCs over the years, in SR and D&D. It came from an old fantasy novel by Lin Carter.

Grexul

My screenname is missing an 'x'.

Thanks for the info, I haven't found how to enable PMs yet, so I haven't been ale to PM anyone. Grexul has been the name of several my PCs over the years, in SR and D&D. It came from an old fantasy novel by Lin Carter.

Grexul

My screenname is missing an 'x'.

Jeez I play one session of SR and miss some crazy thread drama?
Would anyone care to stifle wild speculation and provide myself and the other neophytes an idea of wtf just happened?

A letter to freelancers was posted on private freelancer forums from the Managing Developer of CGL.

At least one of the free lancers decided it should be public and used the anonymous remailing services of FrankTrollman

Posting private correspondence is against the terms of DS, apparently, and Frank has now been super-banned from Dumpshock. Though it must be said as Frank is no longer allowed to defend himself on these forums that the letter was posted on a forum for the freelancers and he was asked by one or more of those freelancers to let us the community see it. If you send someone a letter, you have no legal power over what that person gets to do with it or share it with. The moral issue of whether to share it or not, obviously is impacted by the contents. In this case, one or more of the freelancers felt the content needed to be shared with the fans.

Rules

1. Personal attacks, flaming, trolling, and baiting are prohibited. This includes any form of racism, sexism or religious intolerance.

2. No spamming the forums, and no commercial posts allowed. This includes "bumping" or posting useless content for the purpose of bringing a thread to the top of the forum.

3. No sexually explicit or offensive material. This includes links leading to materials of this nature. DSF is accessed by many people in many different settings, and we want the forum to remain accessible to everyone.

4. Discussion of politics, religion, and sex are prohibited, except as they directly pertain to Shadowrun or another game. Discussions on these subjects will be watched closely, and any innapropriate posts may result in warnings or suspensions.

5. No posts that contain pirated materials, requests for pirated materials, or advocacy of pirating are permitted.

6. No alternate accounts. Users of DSF may post under one account only. If multiple accounts are discovered to belong to one user, the additional accounts will be terminated. Do not share your password with other users. You are responsible for the actions of anyone else using your account.

(Usage constitutes ownership, at least in this case, when the original owner of an account passes on full posting and usage privileges to another person, and said person makes routine use of the account, especially if the original owner ceases to use the account.)

7. Your account must contain a real, working email address. You do not have to display this address publicly if you do not wish to do so (see the board settings).

8. You acknowledge that Dumpshock Forums staff does not pre-screen all content, but that the DSF Administration and Moderators have the right (but not the obligation) in their sole discretion to refuse, edit, move or remove any content that is publicly available. The DSF Administration reserves the right at all times to disclose any information as necessary to satisfy any applicable law, regulation, legal process or governmental request, or to edit, refuse to post or to remove any information or materials, in whole or in part.

9. Please understand that any PMs directed toward moderators or administrators in relation to administrative matters may be viewed by the entire forum staff.

You know over the years I have been required to sign something known as a NDA...(Non Disclosure Agreement) and I am betting the individual or individuals that requested Frank act as proxy had signed one as well.

So...yeah somebody(s) intentionally bypassed their NDA...they have every reason to be worried about being blacklisted within the industry.