I don't intend to use the notes field at all It was just mentioned as a good thing by someone and there's no reason not to go ahead and use it. There are some notes already on weapons which appear to have been placed in the "accessories" field instead. Moving those to the "notes" field doesn't add to the program at all.

Personally, I'm just fiddling so I can have legality on character sheets.

Oh, we were talking about NSRCG supported misconceptions a while back. One that got me was the edge "Good looking and knows it" and the flaw "Ugly and doesn't care". These both need to have a note added that they are example edges and flaws and the GM should be consulted on their use I was originally under the impression that they were "real" edges and flaws, but that's not exactly the case.

And while we're on the subject, it was mentioned in another thread that under the rules it's possible to spend Spell points to initiate at chargen (SRC, pg 15, under of course "Resources" because putting it under "Magic" would be too easy ). But using Spell Points for such things should probably trigger some sort of warning in the "GM Info" section, because it's an optional rule..

Also, are there any rules for familiars in NSRCG?

Bug report: Costs no longer appear anywhere on the gear page.

Bug/unsupported item: Mnemonic enhancer doesn't appear to decrease skill learning cost (per errata, all levels should decrease karma costs by 1).

Bug: Raising a skill or specialization does not appear to cost karma. The program acts like it does, but when you Finalize/commit changes the karma available resets to whatever it was and the skills remain.

nvm, found it

Response to Nikoli removed. He found it.

Possible bug: humans don't get Karma Pool every 10 Karma; they get it every 20 Karma like other metas.

actually, if I remember correctly, the humans are the only ones that DO get a karma pool every 10 karma. I'd double check my books, but I'm certain it was there.

Also, after finalization of the character and addition of additional nuyen, is the program supposed to subtract the money when new gear is purchaed?

That kind of dovetails with my feature request from a while ago to allow the user to select which credstick money is subtracted from when buying gear. For finalized characters it would also be useful if the program asked the user to enter a price each time they bought something (since there is no way for the program to account for street price).

Some way of differentiating certified credsticks, forged credsticks, corp script and (now) paper money would be very useful as well.

Minor bug. Nicitating membranes are compatable with retinal modifications provided it's not a flare comp retinal mod. I get a big "illegal character" mark if I combine them, though.

Otaku bug, cannot add even a lvl 1 complex form, says programs cannot exceed MPCP, MPCP is currently 8

I can't take Dragon as a totem. We who hear the call are most displeased. Please rectify at once.

When I remove a cyber weapon from augmentations, the weapon entry on gear remains and has to be removed from the sr3 file manually (annoying)

I am using the newest version of the program and not using multiple copies (I checked)

You say you're following Canon on the Karma pool, where are you referencing the 1/20 number for humans?

Geeze, that was easy to fix. Here's the new incompat.dat. It shoudl work properly. I tested it and it only complained about flare comp and/or cyber eye replacement. The rest should be kosher

That still leaves the skill bugs I was having (ie, it's not subtracting karma when you raise skills, mnemonic enhancer doesn't work right) and the gear page not showing costs.

Hmm... okay, I did another uninstall/reinstall with the last version from the web page, created a "blank" character (new, finalize, save as test.sr3) and then added 50 karma, clicked "set". Added a skill and the little progress bar changed in the upper right. The karma page doesn't update with the new amount spent. Clicking the Finalize button again (which is labeled commit changes, I think... is this what you do to commit changes?) and suddenly the bar in the upper right resets to the old value (just karma pool spent). The skill is there, but it still shows just the karma pool karma as having been spent.

The gear page is showing me (for rope, for instance):

Ack. I didn't notice it in the blue. Duh. I can't believe I'm wrong about the karma, though... I might be doing something that messes it up, but I'm not imagining tha tone

I went to the site and DLed 3.66b but when i install it and goto options it says 3.65 what am i doing wrong?

thats cool. Hey man great program i think its really great that you taking the time and effort to do something like this. And also ill have to check my books for the exact page number but im pretty sure all foci can be bonded at the rate of 1 spell point per force.

Nope. Bonding costs a number of spell points equal to what they would normally cost in Karma, if the GM allows chargen bonding.

~J

hmmm it appears we have a little contradiction in the rules.............Big suprise.

Probable Bug Report:

When you turn off the rules, and add some Edge or Flaw to the character, it gets added with a 0 value. If you subsequently try to remove any of these 0-value Edges or Flaws, it is quite impossible, even if you turn Rules on. It is quite annoying, because if you want to get rid of them, you have to manually edit the file

Okay this may have been covered, but I don't know for sure, I scanned the thread but didn't notice it, so forgive me if I recover old ground.

Is this only my copy of the NSRCG?

I can't get my copy to save the adjusted BeCK's starting value under the options screen. Also I can't remove the 6 limit on edges and flaws-when you play a ghoul it lists the racial modifiers as flaws, thereby generally pushing you over the six flaw limit.

I think I found a bug with the program, and then a problem with the dat editor.

In the program, I update somebody's karma, then finalize, etc. Then I load up another character to work on him, and it changes the karma to whatever the previous person's was set to. If I exit the program between characters, it's fine, but if I don't it can mess some up if you don't remember what they were.



My other problem is either with the DAT editor or Microsoft Office. First off, I'm using XP, but never have any problems installing any of the char gen stuff. I have had some problems with installing office though, so it's possible the error stems from that, not the DAT editor.

When I installed Office, it had trouble finding a few files off the cd, so I told it to skip. Office still runs fine, so didn't seem to matter.

Now whenever I open the DAT editor, it tries to install something. But it can never find whatever it's trying to install, and gives a error message, which I can cancel. The thing is, it keeps trying to find files 5 or 6 times every time I start the program. While I can cancel them, it's rather annoying. After I've canceled them all, the DAT editor runs fine, no problems at all.

I've tried uninstalling Office, and then the DAT editor gives me no trouble at all. Any idea why the editor is looking for these, or how to fix it?

BTY: It gives the same messages it did when installing office:

Would it be possible to incorporate a ally spirit design page in NSRCG?

that sounds great. Im looking forward to that change.

I also keep getting this message:

Oh and before I forget- you rule Mcmackie!

I was wondering if it would be possible to add in the lifestyle edges and flaws from the Sprawl Survival Guide starting on page 137. The group that I play with loves these things and it would be nice if the program handled the math.

Great program. Thanks.

Bit_Buckethead