Hey, is there any way to upgrade cyber/bioware in the program? According to M&M when you upgrade you only pay the difference in Plus, i'd like to upgrade some cyberware and put new stuff in the essence hole left behind. Is that in the program already?

Okay, this is weird. Sorry to interrupt.

When I tried making a physmage with Magical Power 4, after I the last of my karma in BeCKS on money, it said that I had overflow in my spell list---I had spent too many points. It was fine before...And then when I went to another page and came back to the magic page, it wouldn't let me access spells.

That and it randomly reset the character attributes while I was working on my namesake street sam/rigger.

That is all.

Oh. Oh. I get it. You mean like version 3.66e! Give that a try. Please no more challenges for a while
P.S. If you want just simple lifestyles (no options), it is equivalent to clicking on the same settings for all (i.e. Low lifestyle on all options will come to exactly the same cost (weird isn't it!))

Hey that is great, but I have only two problems.

1. The math doesn't seem to work. I selected low all the way across the board and added two lifestyle edges for a total +0.15 modifier (Easygoing Landlord +0.05 and Escape Tunner +0.1). The program only subtracted 1000 for the lifestyle instead of 1150 .
2. I then went back to edit the lifestyle and none of the settings seem to stick. None of the radio buttons were selected and the "Selected lifestyle edges/flaws" list was cleared.

OS: Win 98
Version: 3.66e update

Thank you for the prompt response to my request.
Bit_Buckethead

The lifestyle modifier for edges and flaws seem to work now. Didn't do a lot of in depth tests just messed around. As for the setting not sticking, I realized after sending the last message that in earlier versions of the program that once you had bought a lifestyle on subsequent edits the lifestyle selection box was greyed out anyway. So nevermind, I was lost in the bit bucket again.

Bit_Buckethead

I'm getting an attribute reset error in BeCKS. Steps to reproduce:
1. Start a new character. Assign attributes/race.
2. Change race on chargen screen. This correctly resets all attributes to 1.
3. the Attribute cost resets properly on the generation screen, but you still "run out" of Karma as if the attributes had already been bought.

The problem lies in the SpentKarma= and RemainKarma= fields not updating properly in the [Karma] section.

The Encephalon isn't adding itself properly to Int for determining the cost of Int-based skills.

Also, is there any option for allowing someone to exceed the racial modified limits at chargen without using Edges and Flaws?

DAT file error: For some reason, the Lim. Simsense Rig under Bodyware->Smartlink->Smartlink Subsystems is located in the eye, when I don't think it should be. Change to:

Hi mcmackie,
Valkyrie Module and CCOC are now fully capable of being used by external programs.
(VM can insert Cyberdecks that CCOC later edits and so on.)
[ VM and CCOC capable of this will be released tomorrow ]
VM can also be used in NSRCG, since it now even exports Effects the way NSRCG does (+1BOD and so on, and even +1DJK and +1MNE).

The code to use either VM or CCOC in a VB application is about 10 lines long; I will send you it if you want, or you might want to send me the source code of NSRCG so I inject the code myself.

Anyway, talk to me ! all 3 programs are ready to be integrated, let's do it !
-Carmi, aka Venndigram

Schweeeet...

The only potential issue I see is that the cyber section in particular, and also to a smaller extent the deck section are going to be seriously deprecated by this. Specifically, will all our old sr3 files become meaningless?

As far as I can see, these sections are going to be untouched at first; the only change is going to be adding an "Invoke Valkyrie Module" button to the Augmentation Page, and adding a special "cyberdeck" item that will be edited using CCOC.

I just released CCOC and VM that are capable of working together; I hope it will be a good-enough example of the potential we have here. Details in CCOC's thread in Shadowrun->Projects.

Warning: Newb Alert. I would first like to preface this post with the fact that I have not read all of the posts in this thread. (21 pages, yeesh). So... after working with the NSRCG, I realized the HTML output on the program is... less than perfect. Any chance that it can kinda clean it up, maybe use a page for each topic (gear, cyber, skills, etc.), something? When Dreamweaver MX can't even make sense of the HTML that the NSRCG puts out, it scares me.

(P.S. Sorry if this has been brought up already.)

Ah, here's an interesting bug/feature/inconsistency: the NSRCG cannot handle multiple skill specializations properly. This should be possible after chargen, but under the current rules it doesn't appear possible. In fact, many of the rules in pgs. 82-84 regarding skills and specializations don't seem to be followed correctly. Any thoughts on how to fix this?

I'll send over a fix to that error in EDGES.dat that Rodent mentioned in a few seconds, too.

Oh, and another thing: the Edges/Flaws screen does not report the book/page number listed in the Dat file.

(Edit): Nor does the skills pane, even though I was surprised to find the book/page number listed for those in the Dat files too!

I've got a question for ya, mcmackie: what do the "IntelligenceMax=" and similar fields mean? They're supposed to be the named attribute's racial modified limits, yes? But, when I go and manually edit them (in an attempt to make a custom race for a player--long story), it seems that the NSRCG does not actually use these values at any point in the creation process, at least not with BeCKS.

Is there any way to change the racial modified limits under BeCKS without messing directly with the system or turning rules off, which has its own oddities (namely the inability to find out how much Karma the resulting character requires)?

Hi McMackie,

some time ago, I reported a problem with the opening of sr3 files.
Now the problem has gotten worse.
I have 3 copies of NSRCG installed on various PCs:
- 1 copy on my PC at work. The version is 3.62. The program is installed on a WinXP Pro OS installed PC, for which I have the Administrator privileges.
- 1 copy on my girlfriend's portable PC. The version is also 3.62, and the PC is running a Win98.
- 1 copy on my own PC at home. I recently (last week) upgraded to your latest version, and the PC is running on WinXP Pro, for which I also have the administrator privileges.

The problem: I created characters using my PC at work (I know, creating SR3 characters at work is BAD ). I copied the .sr3 files at home, then tried to open them on my own PC: it failed. I tried on the portable PC, it also failed. All .sr3 files created on my office PC have failed to open on my home PCs.
I'll upload the error message ASAP, but it's the same as I already reported.

What kind of data in the files can prevent them to be opened on another PC ?

Why does, when adding karma to an existing character never shows the correct available karma?

ie. Got a basic character, finalised etc. then i add 50 karma, and press the set button, and it gives me 45 available, 5 spent and 6 karma pool.

Am i missed a rule here, whereby every 10th karma gained goes into the pool, or is it a "bug" in the program?

Sorry if its been discussed elsewhere in the thread, but there are 22 pages to look through

Thx in advance

Every 10th karma gained goes into your karma pool if you're human. If you are any other race, it is every 20th.

I think there's also a flaw which will slow this down. [edit] There is. Bad karma. It doubles the amount of karma between pool points (20 for human, 40 for meta). [/edit]

When I make a custom skill, I can't link it to an adept power. HELP!

Also keep in mind that you're only *supposed* to be able to take Physical skills (at .25/lvl) or Combat skills (at .5/lvl) under Improved Ability. This is another place where the NSRCG differs from canon.

If it's possible, I'd like to see an option that gives you Karma pool *without* actually spending the Good Karma point. In other words, adding 50 Karma to a character gives you 50 Karma and 5 Karma pool as a human, or 50 Karma and 2 Karma Pool as a different meta. This is an alternate way to interpret that particular rule, one at least as popular if not moreso than the BeCKS series of houserules, so it should be included as an option.

Street Sweeper ranges show up as normal shotgun ranges, but this is wrong. The Street Sweeper uses taser ranges.

hm, I wonder if this should be some kind of disclaimer. Oh well, here it is:

Alone of all the stuff in the NSRCG, the equipment and other .DAT files are meant to be easily editable by the end-users. This is mostly to save mcmackie's time, so he can spend it on fixing the actual program, and leave the dat files to volunteers. So, if you spot an error in a data file, I suggest you correct it yourself and send it to Mcmackie as an email attachment, noting what you changed (possibly using a DIFF output, or at least saying what line you changed) and why (possibly including book page numbers). That way everyone wins: we get things integrated into the new releases faster; and mcmackie can spend more time fixing the more complicated errors in the program code.

Disclaimer: However, If you are too lazy to edit the .DAT files yourself, you are encouraged to post the error in the Dumpshock forums so that someone else might get off their lazy ass and fix it themselves.

I'm just doing my civic duty as a lazy person.

@Namergon: Do you copy the files to a floppy or other form of mass storage (ie: flash memory, memory sticks, CD's DVD's (what a waste, but who knows) or do you email them to yourself? I've found (especially with floppies) that just about any file utterly hates being on a floppy, and (recently) I've noticed a lot of my mass media storage files went wonky and only worked on one of six cd drives that I have laying about. Emailing them to yourself, in some sort of zipped file (as long as there is no compression, I've found with some programs (winzip) it messes with the file) is probably the 'safest' way to get the files from place to place.

It could also help to have all the same versions of the generator. The best solution if you're using floppies because you cannot for whatever reason email the file to yourself, is to have like 12 floppies and copy the file on to all of them. =P


@Everyone who cares: I'm working on adding all of Rayguns weapons into the dat file, and even giving them a book of their own ('Raygun's firearms') Its slow going, but I hope to have it done by the end of summer. If someone would like to go through the exsisting weapon list, and find all of the stuff from raygun's page that has already been input, that saves me a bit of time. Thanks in advance!

Sorry if this is answered in this thread already - I didn't read it all. Is it possible to change the quantity of a gear entry? Esp. for ammo... If one has "[100] Standard Ammo" how can I change this to "[92] Standard Ammo"?

As of yet, I don't think so, but that's a good idea for something to include in the next revision.

Bug Report: ver 3.66a (I Dl'd it earlier this week)

==Lifestyle purchasing==

I attempted to purchase a home for my character using the SSG calculator built into the program. Upon finishing, I discovered that I forgot to make my lifestyle permanent, so I went to 'Edit' it accordingly.

After which, I thought the resultant amount left didn't quite add up. I still had this feeling of being shortchanged even after I removed the lifestyle.

So I started a new character, and went straight to lifestyle after giving myself 400,000 bucks. I brought SSG all-low for a month. Then I edited that one to make it permanent. Then I removed it. I ended up with about 389,000 or thereabouts, the exact amount left after I brought a month of lifestyle, despite having a blank lifestyle sheet and no equipment or spells yet.

I've created a character, and bought a vehicle (Gaz Willys-Nomad), but when I go to print, it's "Vehicles" is selected in Red, and the HTML file never includes a link, whether the box is checked or not.

This character is not a rigger. Any ideas on what I'm missing?

Is there a way to make vampire characters with NSRCG

Thanx

Rayston

There's no way to do it with SR3, so no.

~J

Would it be possible to alter the Dat files to allow something Like that?

I can probably figure that out if its necessary.


Im the GM and am introducting multiple vampiric NPC's as what I hope to be long term associates.

Thanx

Rayston

Just wait until Running Wild hits the market ...
Maybe then you'll get rules for Vampire-PCs ... and maybe then macmackie will update the NSRCG accordingly, since technically that shouldn't be a problem at all, it just demands the appropriate handling routines in the program itself. Simply changing the DAT-File is unlikely to do it, since even the common house rules on Vampire-PCs include certain special rules that aren't reflected by racial modifiers or a simple listing of special powers ...

Where is the Dikoting option?? Spefically Spurs.....

Gear -> Drugs and Chemicals -> Applied Chemtech

If you're ever having trouble finding a particular bit of gear, click on the find icon (the pair of binoculars), and type the name into the search field.

Thanks, just looking at the poss of a none Adept HtH Character....

Guess i need to download the lastest patch cos i don't have "Applied Chemtech" on mine..

I just tried to open my NSRCG and got the following notice

I've been trying (note that word) to add to the DAT files, but in the program it's self, I just keep getting an 'unknown MOD' message...any chance of a list of the possable MOD's? I know a lot to ask, but i'm getting rather frustrated by not getting what I want done! lol!

grate Program, I almost like it better than playing! lol!