I figured, but I hate to get props when I don't deserve them.

I would expect that you total up both essence loss due to cyber, and the cyber hole before you compare it to essence loss due to bio and the bio hole.

So if you had 2.5 essence worth of cyber and 2 essence worth of bio (for a final essence loss of 3.5) and you lost 1 essence worth of cyber then I would expect you would have a cyber essence hole of 1, and 1.5 essence worth of cyber and 1 effective essence worth of bio and thus the same 3.5 essence loss.

If you then gained a point of bio, your total bio would be 3, and your total cyber would get halved, and thus you would have 4.25 essence used with a 0.5 essence hole for cyber.

So it all works out if you include the holes on each side of the equation.

Huh? Maybe it's because of the late hour, but that didn't make any sense to me at all, I think it's far better to go with FrankTrollman's take.

"Something I found by reading the rules about cyberware suites and the Zeiss Example:
Shouldn't there be a reduction of capacity used by options in a cyberware suite, too? Or is everything shrunk by the same factor so it doesn't have any effect at all?

While writing, I guess it's the second option.
Even so, I think there should be a reduction (a capacity reduction at least) for add on modules used in a single cybereye (be it per Augmentation or because someone used an ocular drone for the other eye and bought any stuff just for the eye without the drone, as the drone itself can be updated by improved the built-in camera)."

Something I already wrote in the Errata thread, but now I think it fits better in here.

Question: What happens to a runner who has both Move-By-Wire and Skillwires? Only the highest rated one applies? Added together? Two separate systems each allowing (Rating x 2) skillsofts?

What happens if you have both and have a Skillwire Expert System installed with both already implanted?

I'd say two entirely seperate systems each allowing (Rating x 2) skillsofts to be loaded and active, and a single Skillwire Expert System would provide benefits to both systems.

Platelet Factories / Traumadampers

Does it reduce stun / physical damage from spell drain? It is not described as "healing" but instantly reducing the incoming damage.

SYL

Platelet Factories + Trauma Dampers + Biomonitor + hooked-up Medkit/Savior Medkit = win for magicians. Pretty much a win for everyone, really. Moreso in this edition that previously due to the huge boost First Aid received.

..that isn't broken, but the Med Alert / Guardian Angel was?

First, I didn't say it wasn't broken. Anytime anything is "pretty much a win for everyone," that indicates it's grossly broken. However, it's a fact of the gear and the game mechanics, so it's not going anywhere any time soon.

Second, if the Guardian Angel were introduced and updated to be as powerful compared to the new system as it was in the old? Yes. Yes it would be ridiculously broken. A standard medkit hooked up to your body (and there's no reason you can't have it installed into your clothes or anything else; they imply you can do that with any number of items int he game) already does more than the Guardian Angel did in 3rd Edition, afterall. Especially when coupled with those implants above.

What does a 'hooked up' medkit do? Automatically apply first aid using only it's Rating as dice?

Per BBB, indeed.

The Guardian Angel was broken in the context in which it existed -- ie, 3rd Edition rules. If it's functionality compared to those rules were brought over, it would be retardedly powerful. It would function as a Medkit 6, lower all First Aid thresholds/DVs by 2, revive them if they fell unconscious, automatically detect and attempt to stabilize them, AND function as nano-symbiotes. All for 0.3 Essence or about ~2 Capacity.

If all it did was act like a medkit, no, it wouldn't be broken compared to existing rules. The Guardian Angel was no ordinary medkit, though. It was a medkit on crack with half a dozen other implants rolled into it for almost zero Essence impact. Only thing holding you back was the cost of it.

I have no idea what you're trying to say then. The equivalence of what a Guardian Angel could do in 3rd Edition (heal, bonuses galore, auto-resus., shorten healing times, etc.) is available through a variety of options in 4th Edition. If the Guardian Angel were ported over and made as powerful compared to a Medkit in SR4 as it was in SR3, it would be terribly broken. In other words, a Medkit alone in SR4 is awfully close in functionality to what an Guardian Angel did in SR3.

Assuming that one is not going to adopt the suggested canon 35-pts. limit for Positive and Negative Qualities, are the Biocompatibility (bioware) and Type O System Positive Qualities supposed to be stackable, or incompatible ? Is it realistic to assume these Qualities may be the result of genetic modifications performed on the embryo, or bestowed by (experimental) genetic treatments ?

A more generic issue: Is the present state of 2070s SR meditech advanced enough to suppose experimental cutting-edge procedures might already allow some characters with these Qualities to have at least some of their biotech bestowed by either embroynic genetic modifications, or adult transgenics genetic treatments, instead of surgical implantations of vat-grown organs ? Leaving all other rules (money costs, Essence Costs, etc.) unchanged, except for the effects of Biocompatibility (bioware) and Type O System. So it would essentially be a background change.

I think there was a note under genetics that all bioware systems are available as genetic modifications, for the same essence and nuyen cost. The only difference being that your recover using the rules for genetic mods rather than implants.

My question: the modular cyberlimb lists it's cost as a 1.1 multiplier. Does that apply only to the base limb, or does it multiply the cost of all the equipment in the limb as well? What about to custom jobs or optimized limbs? Can you even make an optimized limb modular? Can you switch optimized limbs on a modular system?

If you get this on a full cyberarm, does it allow you to disconnect at the wrist AND the elbow?

When doing so, you obviously don't have the equipment in the arm you just removed. This requires us to keep track of what installed options are where in the arm: what is in the hand, what is in the lower arm, and what is in the upper arm. Given an obvious cyberarm, according to the tables it would appear that a hand holds 4 capacity, a lower arm holds 6 (10-4 for the hand), and the upper arm holds 5 (the remainder.) Half that for synthetic. So if I specified that my commlink was in my upper arm, then when I switched my lower arm for a jackhammer, I'd still have it. But if it were in my lower arm, I would not. Am I interpreting this correctly?

Apply your bulk cyberlimb enhancements wherever you want them, or apply them evenly? This is tricky, because if I put all my bulk capacity enhancments in my upper arm, what happens if I try to attach a bulky lower arm?

What about mix-matching obvious and synthetic components? Can I attach a synthetic lower arm to an obvious upper arm, and vice-versa?

The text suggests that I can put my hands directly onto my elbows, because they use the same attachment hardware. Can I put hands at the end of my cyberlegs? How about lower arms replacing lower legs? Can I put raptor-legs on my arms and legs and become a quadraped?

Speaking of raptor legs, that 10 capacity they list is for the lower leg, correct, since that's the space they take up? So whatever I had in the 8 capacity of my upper cyberleg would be unaffected by my replacement (per the logic above).

Are all raptor legs obvious? I would think that, given the existence of satyrs, SURGE, and Transhumanists, that there would be synthetic versions. For about 30,000 and with a capacity of 5, if I grok the formula correctly.

That's all I can think of right now.

But there are metahumans who have digitigrade legs already. If you are a satyr, why would raptor legs be unnatural-looking?

Why couldn't someone who wanted to be a satyr get raptor legs that looked natural?

I mean, even if everyone could tell, couldn't you apply the same synth-skin to raptor-legs anyway just because you wanted to?

What about cyberlimb enhancements? should that follow the bulk rule and split the capacity use all along the limb? then all your attachments would have to have the same amount of augmentation, or operate at the lowest level. That sound right? Or should I treate it as other equipment and determine where the capacity is in the limb? Then I could attach a super-agile lower limb when I wanted it.

Wouldn't covering an "obvious" cyberlimb with flesh just be a slightly off-beat "case-mod"? I mean considering that the capacity levels are different between the two classes it leads me to think that more then just slapping flesh is involved with making a cyberlimb look "natural"

What I'm saying is why can't I get all those adjustments done to my raptorlegs, even if it doesn't fool anyone, because that's the casemod I want?

I mean, I'm house-ruling it, but I think it could be a good addition to the errata that it is a possibility.

Once it's Beta or Delta Grade, corps will probably do it. Becaue the implant ist customized anyway...

synthetic kid ste--er, raptor legs should definitely be made available, in errata or at least in a FAQ somewhere. sure, they're not going to fool anyone into thinking your legs are normal, but they'll look cool, and you might be able to convince someone you're a satyr. you could convince someone you're a SURGEling, except that those are just a myth. like eskimos.

Actually, that would a crappy deal, as you can't get higher grade Genetech.

Point.

So, how about those spell-slinging cyberzombies?

..yeah, Awakened CZs are nastier. But even with their own domain, they don't really pack that much of a magic punch.

BTW- Reception Enheancers really give more Dice on Matrix Perception tests, too?

What about astral?

CZ'ed adepts are crazier.

1st level killing hands (pointless) + Elemental strike (awesome).

Smashing blow, on a maxed out CZ troll, has him doing 26P punches to barriers.

Berserk gives you +1 to all physical attributes and -1 to all mental for a short time. CZs can have that on top of all their ware and still never hit their augmented cap.

Wall Run.

Can cyberzombies', with their single point of magic, learn counterspelling or bond weapon foci?

Only if they have one of the Awakened qualities that allows that.