So a being can be born with less than 6 essence? That's interesting...

Cybereyes are indeed limited to "Eyewear" options. Datajacks are now mostly redundant in that function what with wireless links and both Ultrasound and Radar sensor require more than simple visual sensors in SR4.

No, and that's actually an oversight on my part. It was left out of Tweaking the Rules by accident and will likely appear in future errata. The suggested Optional Rule is Strength/2P. With the new customized limbs and the option of redlining Strength that can be quite powerful.

Fair enough, although the Bounty Hunter sample character needs an errata because he has ultrasound installed in his cyberyes.


If you are using an implanted smartlink what else do you need to be able to issue mental commands to your gun? Just a Datajack/Trodenet or an actual sim-module? (In fact is a sim-module needed to issue mental commands to your non-implanted gear in general?)

Also how does your answer affect people using smart-glasses instead of the implanted version?

Thanks,

I saw a few references to them, but none of the ones I saw approach the (nearly overpowered) Guardian Angel system of old. Which is a good thing considering how First Aid works in this edition.

They got rid of the brand-names of a few other implants (Kid Stealth Legs, for example; a name I always hated as there's nothing stealthy about a God damn cyberfreak with chicken legs... bah!), so I'm sure those various implanted medkits are filling the given role of a GA system. ie, an implanted Medkit.

Keep in mind that standard medkits in SR4 have a limited AI and can function independently if hooked up to someone.

Depends on the nature of your sex life, wouldn't it?

Take this with something of a grain of salt, as the last time I saw the Type-O System quality in galley proofs it erroneously stated that you were a universal receiver rather than a universal donor, so I haven't seen the final wording yet.

But conceptually, being a Type-O system would leave you perfectly matched to the standard bioware that is off-the-rack (since you're actually one of the people they use to make off-the-rack bioware). Thusly, a standard grade platelet factory would have the same relationship to you that a delta grade version would to anyone else - already laboriously genetyped and matched to surface protein expectations of your own body.

As such, delta grade bioware would have no meaning to you - really it would just be a way to flush money down the toilet because your body is already matched to the stuff that they keep in refridgerators in case someone needs a transplant in a hurry.

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Cultured Bioware has to be made to your body regardless (as the nervous system quite importantly does not follow exactly the same pathways in different people and is not transportable as a distinct organ), so there really isn't an "off-the-rack" model that they can just throw into you. So it'll still take time to grow you one to your specs.

A good argument can thus be made either way. But if Type O costs anything like what it did in galley proofs, having it apply to cultured ware as well is reasonable. The standard cerebral booster shell has to be grown and contorted to fit your brain - but once it is attached it happens to fit your system as well as one that was custom fitted by a delta clinic to a person with the random and unique protein markers one normally finds.

-Frank

...they don't. In fact, the rules are pretty clear otherwise unless it's hidden in some flavor text somewhere. Implants that take up Essence but don't have a [ Capacity ] listing are not installed in a cyberlimb, but in the "meat body" instead.

Again the example of the cybernetic balance tail, by what you have said it can not be installed on a cyber limb.

Again this is beginning of another case of Text Wars of RAW.

Because it can't. It's not a cyberlimb accessory. You pay Essence to have a Balance Tail installed whether you have a Cybertorso or not. Just like Wired Reflexes, Dermal Sheaths, or Bone Lacing. The last two probably aren't very good examples, but you get my point. Same goes for Cybereyes, single or paired.

See the rule mentioned above. It basically says "if it costs Essence and doesn't have a [ Capacity ] rating in braces, you can't install it in a cyberlimb."

OK cyber eyes and cyber ears can not be installed in a cyber limb also then, they have capacity but take up none. Also the same for the single cyber eye.

That is a CROCK.

Does your meat skull have a Capacity rating? No? Can you install a cybereye into one? Yes? What's the cost? Essence instead of Capacity? Yep.

Same difference. You can install a Single Cybereye anywhere you want on your body. Even in a cyberlimb. However, it doesn't subtract any Capacity from that limb, but instead eats up a little more Essence because it's having to be wired into your meat system just like everything else.

The key here is that being installed "in" a cyberlimb has two distinct meanings.

The first meaning is where an object is physically located - which can be anywhere if it's a wirelessly active device.

The second meaning is where the device is installed as part of the cyberlimb and thus does not cost any essence. And that's limited to things that don't require some sort of neural modification to make them run.

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So your cybereye has a whole section in your brain which is used to translate the images from the camera to your visual cortex and your occular motor nerve to the focusing mechanism of the camera. So it can't be installed "in" your cyberlimb for the purposes of using up capacity - it still uses Essence because it's still hooked to your brain on its own lookout.

But the actual camera portion of the cybereye, that can be literally anywhere. It can be on the back of your head or in places we don't talk about in polite company. It can even be "in" your cyberlimb if you really want it there.

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Damned English Language and its vague prepositions!

-Frank

No comment.

Damn it Tarantula such elegant and simple solutions/interpretations are not to be allowed.

One good response/answer.

Now since a cyber implant can have another cyber implant,,could KK's breast weapon equipped character be possible?

Implanted Breasts "using capacity" of the Cyber Limb ie Torso, with a gland full of neat drugs, with implanted fangs. Would the additional implants cost essence?

About five different people explained that to you multiple times, mate.

By default, it's assumed all implants are working together however you want to reasonably explain them. If you have both a pair of cybernetic breasts and the cybernetic venom sac or whatever it's called now installed into a cybertorso (thus making it a single item all working together), sure, you could have the venom sac "routed" to the breasts if you really wanted to.

You'd probably get further if you tried using less sophomoric examples, by the way. I think it was a mistake including sexual organs in the main rules for that very reason.

If the implant doesn't have a [ Capacity ] value, then yes, you have to pay for it with Essence instead. None of that really matters after the fact. You're a single entity and everything you have installed is now part of you. As long as you describe how everything is working together and it's believable, it's only up to the GM to decide if it's viable. The rules themselves allow it for the most part.

Short of one of the devs stepping in and saying that was the intent I have to disagree, as long as you have the implants installed it doesn't matter how you manage to pay for them, if you really want poison dripping cyberbreasts then you can have them, although I wouldn't expect to get your moneys worth out of that combo.

My mistake I was referring to the Cyber Gland not the bioware one.