I am just curious, where can I read the rules for purchasing a quality with karma after creating with BP system? I was not aware of these rules when I setup the quality sheet.

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If you want to get new qualities after character creation, just add them and put a negative karma entry in the karma log. Your BP does not matter once the character is out of creation mode, and you cannot spend Karma in the BP system until the character has already been put into play.

Other Improvements

Karma may also be spent to buy new positive qualities, remove old negative qualities, and learn spells and complex forms, as noted below. Awakened characters use Karma for initiation (p. 198) and bonding foci (p. 199), just as technomancers may use Karma for submersion (p. 243).

Positive Qualities

If the gamemaster chooses, he can “award” a character with a new positive quality. This should only be done if the quality is appropriate to the character and her recent developments—the character must have worked hard or changed in some way that fits the awarded quality. Some qualities represent a major change, so there should be a good reason for why the character has transformed that way. Players will undoubtedly lobby their gamemasters to “award” them with qualities, but the gamemaster should only award them rarely and after significant effort/events; the gamemaster could even craft an adventure to dramatize the change.

The quality does not come for free, however—the character must pay for the quality at a cost equal to twice the quality’s BP cost. If the character does not have the Karma to pay for the quality, any new Karma she earns immediately goes to pay off the quality cost; the character may not spend Karma on anything else until it the quality is paid in full.

Note that some qualities might also be considered innate—not something a character could ever learn—and so should not be awarded (ambidexterity, for example). The Adept, Magician, Mystic Adept, and Technomancer qualities may not be awarded; they may only be obtained during character creation.

Note that if a gamemaster ever decides that a positive quality is no longer appropriate for a character, that quality may be permanently removed. The character is not “reimbursed” in any way for the lost points.

It's lengthy, but here's the source and a C&P for your reading pleasure :

In short it's GM's discretion in buying a new positive quality. And with SM & Unwired there's some obvious exceptions on the Adept, Magician, Mystic Adept, and Technomancer qualities, but I'm sure most of us are aware of the "Latent *whatever*" positive qualities already.

I have used Open Office and found no trouble using the cyberparts page.

The settings page now has a dropdown for selecting presets. There is the 'default', which includes the settings I recommend. There is a 'RAW', 'RAW with Options', 'High Power', and two versions for the Shadowrun Character Archive Redux (RAW Karma, and Low Powered Karma System)

Ah I missed the custom column in the Settings sheet. I forst thought you could only select the presets.

I guess with the presets we will be in disagreement again on how RAW the stacking Cyberlimb armor is. Don't let that stop you though. As long as both options are available, I'm happy.

Thanks for the update, and keep up the good work.

These are kinda nice, but it would be much nicer if the presets marked as RAW where actually RAW.
IE. the funkily named and badly explained "house rule" for cyber armor should be on in both of those.

ALERT, OPINION ABOUT TO BE EXPRESSED!
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* Its a sad misinterpretation of the rule.
* Any rule that allows for 20 armor while
* naked is completely broken.
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I know we've beaten this horse to death, but:
Said rule allows 20 armor while naked after spending a "small" fortune buying a tank and then putting your brain-in-a-jar into said tank.
It's like saying the rigger riding around in an armored crypod motor cycle is "cheap."

it's your sheet.

The point is that you don't put your brain in a jar and interface it with a cyborg adapted drone. You get the whole set of cyberlimbs including torso and skull and take the maximum cyber armor allowed (22 in total) and miss out on all the other goodies. Congratulations, you are almost immune to small arms fire but you can't do anything.

Sorry, just had to do this.
The_REAL_SR4CG_with_actual_RAW_rules_not_the_dumb_crap_that_DK_releases.zip
Only thinks changed is that the RAW presets have the cyber armor "house rule" on as well has the reduced price option selected for all races in karmagen, as the pay race BP cost in karma is the rule in the German RC(that includes errata) and in the latest printing of the English RC(that also includes errata). or so i have at least heard, can't verify as i have neither of those.

... as well has the reduced price option selected for all races in karmagen, as the pay race BP cost in karma is the rule in the German RC(that includes errata) and in the latest printing of the English RC(that also includes errata). or so i have at least heard, can't verify as i have neither of those.

I've not seen any link on the official sr4 website, but then that place is not updated all that often, and I don't see anything on the official forums either.

I did not realize there was Runners Companion Errata available. Could someone link me?

You can buy pre-made comlinks and nexi in the Gear tab.

There's till no errata released, even if i have been bitching about it at every opportunity after i learned that the latest English printing includes the same errata as the german version

I can answer some of those questions:

> is that the Mystic Armor 4 or Hardened Armor 4 that is granted by Drake?

The drake skin is probably the hardened 4, the mystic armor would be the mystic armor.

> Also, does the Mystic Armor granted by Drake stack with the Mystic Armor adept power?

No, because the former is the critter power which gives the drake 4 armor against astral entities. This is a failing of the RC book authors.

I have no idea how you come to this conclusion.

Tried opening with win7(Most current office) and open office but it's horribly glitched. Tried second download with different unzip program and same problem. Graphics missing unable to manipulate most of the document. Should I be opening it with something else?