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banditf50
Cedric,

The Jackrabbit is fishtailing across the path that Erebus just started to change lanes into. Because of your positive reaction roll you have a chance to swerve back to the left and move past the out-of-control car, but you will need to make a driving test.

TN breakdown: Base TN 3 (handling) + 4 attribute defauting modifier + 1 restricted terrain

total TN = 8

As per SR3 pg 134 you may roll one extra die for the Rapier's autonav.
Tiredronin
aieee....

do I get to roll a dodge test now? Somewhat confused as to how to resolve this...

and coincidentially I would like to finish dialing the number.. can we assume that

coincidentially I would also like to actually finish dialing Dragon's number, can we call that as having happened in that first action? otherwise as a free action (i'd imagine the number is queued up if not already dialing)

Sedna
This is for ronin. WinterRat and bandit: stay out! biggrin.gif
[ Spoiler ]

Cedric Rolfsson
anyone know what the autonav on a standard Yamaha Rapier is?

I don't have my books.
WinterRat1
good thing you told us to stay out. I was just about to open it up. Good use of sign, there.

Don't worry, I stayed out. smile.gif
Cedric Rolfsson
Well rolling Reaction without augments:

03, 07, 02, 05, 08 TN: 8 = 1 success

If I need more than one success then I'll get the autonav for the Rapier if not then this should do.
SentineloftheMountain
Sedna: Andie will scan the store front and possiblely the three new comers without attracting attention.

Assense test TN4: [7,5,1,1,3,7,4] = 4 successes
Aura Reading TN4: [8, 9, 3, 5, 4] = 4 successes

If the temporary background count from the spells cast would affect the circulation batch then Andie will clean it up as quickly as possible.
banditf50
Cedric,

The autonav of the Rapier is 1, that is why I said roll one extra die nyahnyah.gif

I'll get an IC post up for later on today. . .the one success is all you needed though smile.gif
Tiredronin
hey how do you do that spoiler thing?

Sedna: any way I can tell where it is going?
banditf50
Cedric and Moirdryd:
Thank you both for sticking with me during these last few weeks. I have been distracted by a final project, my honors thesis, final exams, and two weekend trips and I know that you two and your gaming experience took a back seat. I completed my last final exam as an undergraduate today and I think I am caught up with all owed posting and ready to game-on. The only thing that I still owe the both of you are two weeks worth of karma awards, which I will lump in with this week's karma on this coming Sunday.
Thank you both.

Tiredronin and Winterrat: Now that we're all here in LiTS together perhaps some of our famous RPing actics will arise to entertain the entire LiTS community nyahnyah.gif
Sedna
[ spoiler ] [ / spoiler ] (but without the spaces)

Normally I'd ask for an appropriate roll -- oh, let's see, maybe Tactics or Launch Weapons -- but I don't want to slow this down any further. (Pre-emptive rolls always welcome, even if sometimes I'll rule that the skill doesn't apply.)

ronin, the last missile was an AVM (Anti-Vehicle). This one you already know is a missile rather than a rocket: it's behaving with some intelligence; and it's a good guess it's an AVM as well. However, there really isn't anything vehicle-sized you can think of that it might hit. From your own experience you do know that with difficulty (+4 TN), an AVM can seek out a smaller-than-vehicle target. You don't have the information to extrapolate more.

Someone would have to isolate and then triangulate the signal to track down that other rigger directly. It needs a bit of luck, and then time none of you have had yet. Beyond that, the best that can be done is to neutralise the drones and/or dumpshock the rigger.

Reminds me: Dragon and Daedalus would know there's a chance the downed drone is still live -- depends on whether the rigger jumped out of it or not. (The damage wasn't severe enough for them to have been forced out.) But so long as none of you walk in front of the turret-jammed SMG, you're probably okay.

Now that you're clear of exams, bandit: I'll let you write up your most recent summoning in-thread smile.gif

Sentinel: noted, answer in IC thread.

WinterRat: thanks for not looking biggrin.gif
banditf50
I will do that post-haste Sedna.

Can someone who has been heavily involved in this combat (probably Sedna or Winterrat) throw up an OOC post that lists the position of each PC and the direction of each threat? I am having trouble piecing those details together from the IC posting and I feel handicapped without a mental battle map.
Thanks a lot.
banditf50
I figured that I post this in an attempt to avoid slowing the action.

City Spirit (force 5) iniative: 27 - obviously it has not manifested yet.

When the spirit's action occurs, which will be before Virgil gets another action, the spirit will just have to sit around command-less. It will hold it's action until the iniative passes reach Virgil's next action.
Sedna
Street about 10 metres wide. Clinic on one side, burning hulk of a former Americar parked across from it.

Virgil's almost against the clinic door, having been hurled there by Dragon.

Dragon, Sybersnake, and Tiffany were all on the opposite side of the car from Virgil, who can't really make them out (before, because of the car; now, because of the flames). Father Bremen, who used to be on Virgil's side of the car, has joined them.

The drone crashed about 12 metres down the street from the burning car.

Daedalus' drone is above the rooftops on the side of the street opposite the building.

You don't know where the missile is.

Approximation of current locations:

CODE
||||                                                       ||||   (missile came
||||                                          Virgil      Clinic  from behind
||||                                                       ||||    here)
||||                                                       ||||
||||        Burning car                                    ||||
||||                                                       ||||
||||  Dragon                                               ||||
Alleyway  <-- T+S+FB (seeking cover)                     Alleyway
||||                                                       ||||
||||                                                       ||||
||||                                                       ||||
||||                                                       ||||
||||                                                       ||||
||||                                                       ||||
||||                                                       ||||
||||                                                       ||||
||||                                                       ||||
||||                                                       ||||
||||                                                       ||||
||||          X                                            ||||
||||     Crashed drone, billowing smoke                    ||||


Edit: Yay! I got it to work! biggrin.gif
Second edit: note that that's where the drone crashed. It started out on the other side of the street from the clinic, more or less between the burning car and Dragon's current location, but using the roofs for cover. Extrapolate the line from T/S/FB through Dragon and you'll have it. Daedalus' drone is occupying that space now.
banditf50
Sedna,
Wow! That sketch provides much more detailed information that I had hoped for. Outstanding job biggrin.gif Thank you very much for doing that for me . . . and I am sure that it will help all of us as things progress.
Tiredronin
Preemptive rolls:

Small unit tactics
09 05 04 04 02 01

Gunnery
09 05 04 04 01

Electronics
07 05 03
(will read up on MIJI rules... though I don't think it'll be possible here...)

gots to study : P

just testing...
[ Spoiler ]
Sedna
Worked much better than my previous e-mail attempts, neh? grinbig.gif

Can't give more detailed data based on information each of you has individually. Can say that Dragon has now picked up the sound of an incoming missile, although it's still too far to project any specific programmed destination beyond "incoming" (and the Doppler tells you that).

The phone line between Dragon and Daedalus remains open. ronin, Daedalus can post a 2-3 line answer to Dragon if he wants. (That would be the second pass free action. The first exchange counts as the first pass free action.)

WinterRat: you're up.
bandit: you're right after him. Until Dragon says something out loud or Daedalus spends a Simple Action to contact you by phone, you're out of the communications loop.
banditf50
Though Dragon will take his actions before Virgil I am posting his intended actions to keep the action smooth.

Free action: Allocate spell defense dice (6 spell pool + 2 totem modifier)
  • Dragon - 2 dice
  • Tiffany - 2 dice
  • Sybersnake - 2 dice
  • Virgil - 2 dice

Simple action: Command city-spirit to use concealment on Father Bremen, Dragon, Tiffany, Sybersnake, and Virgil.

Simple action: Command Danagrath to head down the alleyway that Tiffany, Sybersnake, and Father Bremen are currently heading towards. He is to scou t the area ahead and alarm them if anything hostile is on the other side.

Sedna: Let me know if you need any of this altered. If not than I will make an IC post after Dragon's actions are posted in the IC.
WinterRat1
Sedna- Dragon is holding, other than calling out to warn everyone of the second missile.

As an aside, Daedalus and Dragon both have transducers to go along with their radios. I believe this allows communication at the speed of thought, which translates into essentially telepathy. I have to reference M&M, which I don't have with me, but I believe we definitely have more than 1 exchange per person per pass, although I suppose it could be relative. It's not particularly relevant here, but I thought I'd mention that so we could research that point and clear it up now for future reference.

Perception Roll for missile (-1 TN): 11 04 04 03 03 02 01

Bleh...don't think I'll be learning much from that.
Sedna
Actions noted, both, including assignation of spell defense. (WinterRat, there's some relevant knowledge here wrt the likely resources of your opponents that Virgil doesn't yet have, but Dragon does.) bandit, I'm leaving you to write up your own action, just in case you wanted to shift it based on Dragon's words. Note that it's your last action before the missile hits.

Father Bremen, Sybersnake, and Tiffany spend their actions getting to cover (alleyway); and Sybersnake's also pulled out her (your) gun with the one free hand.

Dragon can now for sure hear the incoming missile, but not yet details beyond "at us". No one other than Daedalus can see it yet -- probably next pass.

After you're done, bandit: we're into third combat pass and Daedalus is up, followed by Dragon.

Re
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As an aside, Daedalus and Dragon both have transducers to go along with their radios.

That's why I've been allowing 2-3 lines as a free action between you two explicitly, as opposed to 2-3 words. Remember, it's communication at the speed of coherent thought: not standard thought, but thought that has been shaped into something tangible and verbalised. I'd say that's the major limitation -- you wouldn't run into equipment limitations before you ran into this.

What Dragon shouted to Virgil should technically be much more than a single free action, but fortunately you had that held simple action from last round. Beyond sheer number of words (normally takes more than a split second to say all that -- and be understood), look at the number of ideas brought across:
  1. We've got another missile incoming! (informative data)
  2. Stay sharp! Virgil, (Attention: Virgil)
  3. send a watcher or something (method by which to accomplish a requested goal, suggested course of action)
  4. and track down the rigger (requested goal #1)
  5. and the missile (requested goal #2)
  6. ASAP! (reinforcing urgency)
But with a transducer, all that's just an incidental free action. Example, Dragon's and Daedalus' exchange from earlier, each a free action:

Daedalus:
  1. "Dragon, (Attention: Dragon)
  2. you are about to have a VERY bad day. (semi-informative data -- more bad news incoming)
  3. Another missle was launched (informative data)
  4. masked by the explosion of the first one. (informative data)
  5. Get everyone out of the way (method by which to accomplish a requested goal [implied, but unstated], suggested course of action)
  6. [as fast] as superhumanly possible." (reinforcing urgency)
Dragon:
  1. "Daedalus, (Attention: Daedalus)
  2. I'm already having a very bad day. (semi-informative contextual data)
  3. Gotta hand it to you though, (acknowledgement and appreciation)
  4. great timing. (cause for the above)
  5. Do you have a point of impact the missile is targeting? (request for data)
  6. I'd like to avoid running to the place it's going to hit. (reason for request, possibly influencing type of data to be received) *
  7. Which way should I get everyone moving to? (further refinement of request)
  8. And can you do anything about the fragger who's firing these missiles at us?" (requested goal)
See? No problem as a free action, not with the transducer and the IN to do it.

The guideline is one word per IN point (and that's to comprehend as well) as a free action without a transducer; or, if both parties have transducers only, one quickly phrased concept per IN point. One step up, and it turns into a simple action. (It's also entirely possible a person could be communicating at breakneck pace, but it's just not comprehended that quickly.)

Now, I have no intention of strictly count out separate concepts, or words, or sentences, or whatever, each and every time. I'm just giving this by way of my reasoning in creating a general guideline, knowing we all know when and how to bend it.

* You just reminded me on something that has to go into the Laughs in the Shadows thread smile.gif
Tiredronin
Ok, well Daedalus is trying however he can to help Dragon and company in regards to this missile. (by watching a play by play of the trajectory, can he determine the likely target? especially with people now scattering?)

Otherwise its just a delayed action I guess.

Though he does also want to keep tabs on the downed drone, the other drone and any other new threats... not sure how to translate this into actions

but if the above can be somewaht passive (sensors don't imply any particular focused direction right?) He would like to try to isolate that signal.. you can apply that electronics roll from before.

but the top priority is to try to help his allies being quashed by the missile.

Sedna
Generalities are okay, especially generalities of "keeping tabs" smile.gif I get where you're going, and you'll be writing an IC post framing the ideas. The degree to which it's passive rather than active is up to you.

The missile's coming in pretty much along the same trajectory as the previous one: so more or less line toward car/Dragon/others. You can't be more specific beyond that. It should be visible shortly. You can guess that even though it's going to go almost directly over Virgil, he at least isn't its target.

Isolating the signal -- do you mean attempting to determine its frequency?
WinterRat1
Sedna- Very interesting breakdown of communication, and good guidelines. Sometimes you're so thorough you crack me up, in a good way. smile.gif

I realized I was pushing it with Virgil, but I figured the held Simple action should cover me there. Would it be possible for Dragon to hold until say, 5 or so, and then break away from the missile in time? Since it arrives on 1, he should hopefully be able to see it by then?

And I realize Dragon has more info than Virgil, but I tried to cram in the essentials there. I'm holding os I can react to the missile when we know where it is.

EDIT: Does Dragon know the trajectory by now, or is it only Daedalus who can tell?
Sedna
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Would it be possible for Dragon to hold until say, 5 or so, and then break away from the missile in time? Since it arrives on 1, he should hopefully be able to see it by then?

Yes, to both: it should be visible during all of the last pass.

Daedalus has the advantage of seeing it. Dragon's trying to judge by sound ... and you didn't have that great of a Perception roll for something very difficult.
banditf50
Sunday karma (three weeks worth)

Cedric: [April 18-24] 1 + [April 25-May 1] 1 + 1 (quality bonus) + [May 2-May 8] 1 = 4
Moirdyrd: [April 18-24] 1 + [April 25-May 2] 1 + [May 2-May 8] = 3

*Here's hoping that I never go that long without awarding karma ever again smile.gif
Sedna
Now that Virgil has completed second combat pass and third combat pass results in mostly held/monitoring actions for Dragon and Daedalus (accurate?), while the others continue moving into the alleyway --

Which places us into initiative 5, where everyone can now see the incoming missile.

Oh, fyi, same general line of flight: which is burning car (where it now looks like it's not going to stop), Dragon, the fleeing trio. (There's been two dice rolls behind the screens.)
Sedna
Hmm ... I'm stumbling a bit on translation between post-playing and face-to-face playing.

It's initiative 5 of the third pass. You can all see the missile now. Dragon and Daedalus, you can both take your actions now. Daedalus is first.
Tiredronin
Active sensor test to check for the fleeing drone:

sensors 3 + rating 4 clearsight

11 11 07 05 03 01 01

(very polar this diceroller..) : P

or... if this should be a passive test: (int+clearsight)

14 10 08 05 05 03 03 03 03 02 01 01

of course.. if the downed drone is doing anything suspicious, Daedalus may take other actions (i.e. call out a warning)

btw... is that grenade that fell out any sort of threat?...
Sedna
The grenade that fell out is billowing smoke, which is going to create visibility problems next round. That's all it's doing for now. You know that smoke grenades usually don't do anything else.

The fleeing drone is fleeing. It's very clear that it's taking off, fast. It will be out of your sensor range soon.

The missile is already passing the only obvious vehicular target. It looks like it's bearing down on Dragon but ... not quite.

You know the other call isn't from Virgil.
Sedna
Sunday karma: for the week of May 2 - 8

bandit: 1 (+1 GM bonus) = 2
Sentinel: 1
tiredronin: 1 (+1 for in-the-background gaming over the week prior to this one, +1 for sheer patience for waiting for months for the right moment) = 3
WinterRat: 1 (+1 GM bonus; +1 for sheer audacity in protecting another) = 3
Tiredronin
hrm.. not to be annoying but how about the downed drone? (if it looks like it is still just sitting there then that's fine, but if it is moving we shall have to do something)

missile not heading for my drone... phew! but... darn.
missile not hitting already hit car... bad.. our opponent isn't a moron.
missile not heading for Dragon... definitely bad.. plus we won't get to see him try to shrug off 16D nyahnyah.gif (ooh I hope i didn't just jinx something... mua hahaha....)

not looking good...

the missile drone looks to be pretty quick right? (maybe I won't follow it) Can I get some sort of record of what this drone looks like (like a picture or something) anything that will help me recognize/detect it in the future? (or possibly use as a blueprint.. mwa haha.)

any caller ID on the phone call? well I think Daedalus will let it ring for the next 3 seconds while the missile resolves, and if something else comes up send it to voice mail.
Sedna
Downed drone is just sitting there. Odds are it probably can't lift, the way you hit it: damage from above would have cost it much of its helium.

Missile drone is faster than a Condor should be. Except for odd discrepancies like that -- which are almost entirely in the performance, not the appearance (and thus observable only by someone who knows what a Condor should be like) -- it looks exactly like a Condor should look. There's a couple of small differences, such as the brackets where exterior cargo space can be quickly fitted on: but you'd have a heck of a time spotting it. To use as a blueprint: from what you've seen, for that one you'd almost have to reverse-engineer it, or possibly get an in at the factory.

No caller ID on the phone.
WinterRat1
double post
WinterRat1
Argh!!! Bloody frag! It just hit me that one of the missing posts (from the black hole thingy) was a karma post I was trying to post! Dang it...=( OK OK, karma is coming up for my players soon. Blast! I didn't even realize it. Amazing the things you can forget sometimes.

And Sedna- That was definitely a fun karma award for 'sheer audacity'. In retrospect, that probably wasn't the brightest thing Dragon could have done. Assuming we survive that, hopefully it'll earn some brownie points there.

Basically, Dragon is just shouting a warning to the three in the alley and getting the heck out of the way.
grendel
Shadowrunner13: I need a perception check from Tenmou and how were you planning on checking out the delivery point? Just a drive by or were you planning on stepping inside?
Sedna
[/learning from grendel]

WinterRat, bandit, ronin: you're out of combat. Post at will.
(ronin: remember those blanks you agreed to let me fill in? grinbig.gif )
Shadowrunner13
OK, Tenmou's Perception check:

Int 5 = 8, 5, 4, 4, 2

I was planning on doing a drive-by. Scope the place out, figure out where exactly in the city it was, etc. Anything I can figure out from a cursory check from the curb.

SR13
grendel
All right, since you're going to visit a location specific to the run, I'm going to shift you over to the run specific IC. If you're acting outside of the run, though, i.e. phone calls, research, etc., continue to post in the main LitS IC thread. Otherwise everything goes in the run IC.
Tiredronin
Sedna:

Can you let me know if Dragon destination is out my flux range?

Coincidentially I'm going to slow Talos down to a reasonable speed (vs the breakneck pace he was traveling at earlier) and make to catch up with them)

mechanics question: Is it feasable to have a drone burning fuel traveling around escorting these guys around? OR just keep the solar powered one up and keep the gas burning on on standby.

Winterrat: is it reasonable to assume that Dragon and Daedalus had each other's phone contact numbers with the intention of establishing a radio frequency they should be using once they met up? Or would it make more sense of they had preestablished codes/frequencies and would already begin using them.

wonder how call waiting works when you have a the phone in your body and a transducer in your head...
bclements
grendel: just looking for a place to park this thing for a bit, till a few minutes before midnight. If you need me to roll perception to find it, let me know and I will. If not, I'll just edit the IC post to find one.

Also, I used to drive a beige Ford pickup IRL smile.gif Good time, good times.
WinterRat1
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Winterrat: is it reasonable to assume that Dragon and Daedalus had each other's phone contact numbers with the intention of establishing a radio frequency they should be using once they met up? Or would it make more sense of they had preestablished codes/frequencies and would already begin using them.


I would say they had contact numbers as well as preestablished codes and frequencies. PM/email me and perhaps we should set up the actual protocols?
banditf50
Sedna:
Virgil dismisses the summoned city-spirit. Then summons another force 5 city-spirit as him and Dragon begin the car ride.

Conjuring (6): 14 08 05 05 01 01
*Given the likely +1 background count I assume that is two successes.

Drain (WL 6): 11 07 04 04 03 01
*Two successes, Virgil takes a light stun.

-And so the accumulation of drain begins . . .
grendel
Bclements: go ahead and roll perception for me. It won't be too difficult to find a place to park, but traffic in this area is light, consisting mostly of heavy cargo semi trucks and flatbeds.
Cedric Rolfsson
Bandit, would Erebus know where Caveman Kate's is?

Also, Erebus is scanning the parking lot, looking for any signs of occupation, heat signatures etc.
banditf50
Erebus would have likely heard of the place due to it's popularity and he could easily search for directions on his p-sec. I know that I can use a modern PDA to get driving directions right now, stands to reason they would also have that feature in 2063.

Roll a perception test for your scanning.
Sedna
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Can you let me know if Dragon destination is out my flux range?

Should be okay. It's closer to you than where they are now, but there's more random electronic interference.
QUOTE
mechanics question: Is it feasable to have a drone burning fuel traveling around escorting these guys around? OR just keep the solar powered one up and keep the gas burning on on standby.

Barring extended extremes of movement, solar-powered Condors can pretty much keep themselves going indefinitely. But as long as they don't take too long, gas consumed by Talos shouldn't be too much of an issue. (Barring those extremes, Talos has a rough range of 88 km: more than enough for your purposes.)

Re pre-established codes and frequencies: yes from me as well. Let me know once you've worked it out.

bandit: the drain should be gone by the time you get to Jonah's place.
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wonder how call waiting works when you have a the phone in your body and a transducer in your head...

The easier version would be to assume you contacted Dragon by radio, per those pre-arranged protocols.
banditf50
Astral Perception (IN 6): 05 05 04 04 02 01
Aura Reading (4): 05 08 03 02

*What floor would that number place Jonah's apartment on?
Sedna
It could be either. Most fourplexes have A/B on the main floor and C/D on the upper floor. Some have A/B on the left side, and C/D on the right.

From the astral, since you can't read the door numbers, you can't tell which: but odds suggest it's the apartment on the main floor on the right. Failing that, it's the apartment on the upper floor on the left.

Oh, and there's no sense that someone might have been killed here, or anything like that.

A final note: you'll keep the watchers, but you'll lose the city spirit you just conjured if you enter the building.
Sedna
You might want to write a bit further, Sentinel. I'd already addressed your perception in the previous post, astrally, since you never mentioned you were shifting back into mundane perception:
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Mundane. Cybered, probably much the same kind as the mage and that unknown third -- and only then does Andie catch the anomaly: the man on the cot is not cybered in the slightest.

Andie might also possibly suspect that Solomon is being just a bit generally ironic in his answer to him ... but if he is, he isn't likely to say it.

Oh ... and please tell me "no apparent reason" is entirely in character? smile.gif
banditf50
Sedna:
*In case your wondering why I am posting so frequently today . . . I am only working a half-day smile.gif

Virgil will choose to search the right side of the main floor first. Let me know if I should post in the IC for that, otherwise I trust your judgement in moving the action along. Also, based on Virgil's mind probe of Cindy you stated that he would know what Jonah looks like. Is that enough to ID him from the astral?
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