Cedric Rolfsson
May 12 2005, 04:00 PM
Guys, just for everyone's information, I live in Washington State and have spent considerable time in Seattle and as I keep reading about the cold and the snow I wanted to make sure that every one understands a little bit about the people that live in Seattle and how winter affects us.
It rarely snows in Seattle, and when it does snow the snow almost never sticks. It melts into slush almost immediately.
When there is so much as an inch of snow on the ground the city seems to almost shut down. No one knows how to drive in the snow, accidents, little fender benders, are common. Schools will close and bus routes will change if there is any snow on the road, its crazy. The snow in the foothills of the Cascades is nasty sometimes but there are a large number of people who head up Snowqualmie to ski so the roads are kept relatively clear and traffic stays pretty decent.
It doesn't get all that cold in Seattle, the wind is cold, but the ambient temperatures without wind chill aren't really all that bad. However, to the people who live in Seattle when the weather gets near freezing the people all start to bundle up like they're intending a journey into the Artic Circle. I usually wear shorts and T-shirt all year round, and only put on jeans from December to February, and even in those months not all the time, but people stare at me when I do so I'm odd.
I'm not trying to be critical but the number of people out and about in the posts, if the whether is really as bad as its been written, just isn't realistic. Seattlites deal with winter by refusing to get out of their cars unless its to go inside. The Seattle Center with its long sprawling walkways and food courts gets crowded with kids and the homeless, who are usually able to find shelter in the eating areas around the central fountain. News channels show weather reports constantly and talk about little else.
Everyone really reacts to the cold whether, I think far more so than people in like Minnesota do for similar whether.
I don't know what would happen with the GridGuide system, and I was always under the impression that with the smog and pollution in 2063 that Seattle creates its own micro-climate, a "green house effect" all of its very own. It just seems to me that if it really was snowing in Seattle the characters would be reacting more to it than they apparently are in the posts. I just wanted to throw my two cents in, please don't take offense, I just thought I'd add to the general pool of information.
WinterRat1
May 12 2005, 04:08 PM
double post
WinterRat1
May 12 2005, 04:08 PM
Sedna- Says you trust me. I just thought I’d restate it since you have to be thinking at least partly, “What the heck is going on???” I know I would.
Cedric- That is extremely interesting and valuable data. I frankly had no idea what it was like in Seattle as far as weather related dealings. I’ll have to reexamine some stuff in light of that. Thanks for telling us!
Sedna
May 12 2005, 04:18 PM
Players whose timelines are in and around January 9, take heed of what Cedric Rolfsson says. Because it is a nasty, unseasonable, untypical storm, especially for the area (don't you love what the Great Ghost Dance did to the weather in the Sixth World?), and I too have been noticing that several of you haven't really been taking that into account. (Did notice when
tony did, in that driving getaway
)
Major timeline events to keep track of, which are likely at least to touch upon your character:
JAN 6-8:Some kind of disease going through the Puyallup Barrens. For now, the rumours still outnumber the cases. That may change.
JAN 8-9:Heavy rain, turning into a winter storm overnight and through the 9th. About 3-4 inches. Even for the Sixth World, it's
very unusual for the area.
NIGHT OF JAN 9:Twin helicopter crash in the Barrens, possibly storm related, possibly not.
Any others that I've missed?
Slipshade
May 12 2005, 04:36 PM
It would be a good thing to either report these types of events in this thread or the Shadowlands thread. Reason being that I do not read others posts, so I can keep the realism of my reactions and not metagame when I meet other characters.
Thanks for the update though. I think I was the first person to post on Jan 8th and I had it as a powerful rainstorm on the night of January 7th. When on 8th does the snow storm hit, so I can update my posts? I am currently at around 11:00am on January 8th in the timeline.
Slip
Sedna
May 12 2005, 04:39 PM
Urk. Already trying to add that to the current projects: a "calendar" webpage
(I'm behind. There's a surprise. But I'll move that one up in the priority list and try to have something solid by this Sunday.)
In the meantime, could someone track down that e-mail with the almost hour-by-hour storm timeline?
Slipshade
May 12 2005, 05:02 PM
Sedna - That would be helpful. Weather sould likely be controlled by the GM's anyway, so us players don't go around mucking things up.
Slip
banditf50
May 12 2005, 05:14 PM
Greetings All:
I am back to reading the posts that I missed last night. . and oh what a night it was. I had intended on having a few drinks and then coming back here to post before going to bed. However a faculty member and friend of mine showed up and decided that he wanted to buy several more rounds for everyone. So the night quickly degenerated to the point where I am just now having my morning coffee (it's noon here)
Now I am reading all the fun posts that I missed and will be responding to everyone in turn
Cedric: Just a quick note. Thanks for that weather information. I too have never been to the area and had always assumed that the weather was more like that of Chicago. I am sure we will all make corrections in the future.
*Anyone else have any life experience that could correct or enhance any of the RPing action that has gone on thus far?
The_Eyes
May 12 2005, 06:33 PM
Um, I kinda preempted the weather on the morning of the 10th, I guess. Just heavy rain, but if someone else has a better idea let me know and I'll change my post to fit. It really isn't that important; I just wanted to make
Eyes a little late.
Hehe, my character is so trolling for an early grave.
banditf50
May 12 2005, 06:36 PM
Hehehe . . . At least you are willing trolling for the invitation to an early grave. It seems that
Dragon and
Virgil are destined for that same grave without even trying
Slipshade
May 12 2005, 09:29 PM
WinterRat1 and Scrapheap - Ok, I am back to posting.
Sedna
May 13 2005, 01:22 AM
Translations (mixing three different languages here):
huacalli: a wooden crate used to transport produce or small domestic livestock (usually for slaughter).
No la quiero regar: I don't want to screw up.
Ye tlacua-lo!: It is eaten (using a metaphor).
Esta chica se está saliendo del guacal: This girl is geting out of the rules (in the sense of finding a way to break the rules).
banditf50
May 13 2005, 02:37 AM
Preemptive roll if needed:
etiquette (5): 05 05 04 01 01
Sedna
May 13 2005, 03:01 AM
Noted. Thanks
Sedna
May 13 2005, 03:05 AM
Add one more to the temporary calendar here:
JAN 9-10: (stealing a page out of bclements' book
)
Aftereffects of storm. Rotating brownouts throughout the Seattle area. Streets are finally getting what passes for plowed toward the end of the 10th; major arteries sooner. After the snow started tapering off, the temperature has been falling since noon on the 9th. Everything is now icy as well as slippery.
Weather forecast calls for a warming trend, bringing the unusual cold temperatures back above the freezing point by the weekend.
banditf50
May 13 2005, 03:22 AM
Not a problem Sedna. I will try to anticipate your requests for die rolls as much as possible in order to keep the action smooth. Though I will likely only find partial success in anticipating the need.
As an aside . . . I laughed when I heard about the cat ending up in the toilet tank. I happen to own what might be the world's most clumsy housecat, and he has ended up in the toilet bowl twice by his own fault
bclements
May 13 2005, 11:39 AM
Sedna: on that, I figured that the power infrastructure in Seattle by the 2060's hasn't been upgraded in a while in many, if not most places. So, while a lot of power is available, actually getting that power to many places would result in overloads and brownouts during extreme periods (and this freakish storm would count as such).
WinterRat1
May 13 2005, 01:22 PM
Scrapheap and Slipshade- Assume you both see the other, and can now interact freely. I’m leaving it to one of you two to pick up the thread from here. The plot doth thicken…
WinterRat1
May 13 2005, 02:10 PM
Sedna: Perception roll (w/ -1 TN): 11 09 05 03 03 02 01
Scrapheap
May 13 2005, 03:36 PM
WinterRat-
No problem, but could you provide a quick description of what I see? Are there obvious signs of the firefight, gas, etc? People milling around? Are the kids anywhere to be seen?
Thanks again-
WinterRat1
May 13 2005, 03:45 PM
You’re still outside the shelter, so all you can really see is the busted in doors. There’s a lobby area/hallway inside the first set of double doors, and another set of double doors (which are also open) leading into a main room. The main room is where the three people are, and it looks chaotic, smashed tables, overturned chairs, that kind of thing. Beyond that, you can’t see enough to get a more detailed picture from where you’re at, since you’re basically standing outside on the curb by the street from where I ended my post. The gangers are all still standing around with you outside. No people milling around, they all seemed to have abandoned the place ASAP. Does that help?
Slipshade
May 13 2005, 04:11 PM
Scrapheap - Here is a brief description of the people inside. When you get close enough to see them.
[ Spoiler ]
A young woman Brown Hair, about 5'4" She is waring jeans and a faded pink blouse. The kid standing with her is either her younger brother or her some, since there is a family resemblence between the two. They are obviously poor, probably SINless. Typical barrens dwellers. The other man is Tall, somewhere around 6' and thin. He is wearing a pair of jeans, long-sleeved black Futura shirt and has a pair of soft black leather gloves on. More obvious is the fact that his complexion is extremely pale, more like the color of a pale stone or marble and his shoulder length pale blonde almost white hair is pulled back into a pony-tail that has come partially undone. His his face is like a fine sculpture and his ears upswept like that of an elf, but this is man is unlike any elf that you have ever seen. He looks more like a marble statue of one.
Scrapheap
May 13 2005, 04:26 PM
WinterRat-
That's perfect, thanks.
Slip-
I'll post something when I have more time, but here is a general description of the guy about to enter the Respite:
[ Spoiler ]
Human male, mid-40s, possible older. He has very short, dark hair with some obvious grey and a medium complexion. He is tall (1.86m), and slim (80.2kg), with mirrored eye-shields and an obvious left cyber-arm. The arm looks slightly odd, almost as if it was made for someone larger, or with a heavier frame. His face is all harsh lines and angles, and he looks to have lead a hard life. If not for the condition of his clothes and the obvious cyber, you'd probably assume that he was homeless too.
He's dressed in cheap work clothes: heavy pants, button-down shirt, and steel-toed work boots. All in muted colors, and all looking rumpled and slept-in. He's wearing a dark grey Secure-tech jacket in a plain cut and a battered Detroit Tigers baseball hat. A lit cigarette dangles from his lip.
WinterRat1
May 13 2005, 04:33 PM
Sedna- You do not have to post in red for the duration of your time here. Just fyi.
Slipshade
May 13 2005, 04:45 PM
WinterRat1 - Would any of the gang members with Scrapheap recognize me? I have been working at the soup kitchen once a week for the last month or two per my background.
Slip
banditf50
May 13 2005, 05:04 PM
Temporary Absence announcement
Tomorrow morning (Saturday) is my commencement ceremony and immediately following I will be driving to New York. My girlfriend has an internship located there over the summer and I will be traveling with her and helping get her settled into her new apartment. I will be flying back on Sunday and should be back in my apartment Sunday evening.
I will (barring a deluge of posting) caught up before heading to bed tonight, but then I will not be posting until Sunday night. Thanks everyone and have great weekends.
-bandit
WinterRat1
May 13 2005, 05:33 PM
Yes, you recognize them, and they recognize you. Assume you know Megan and Tyler's names, and the rest (whom are currently unnamed for a variety of reasons) and they know you too, as Max, just like Trancer and Melina.
Slipshade
May 13 2005, 05:42 PM
Thanks, that will help with posting.
Slip
Sedna
May 13 2005, 08:51 PM
Won't be able to post further today. Will be back on-line for an hour or so tomorrow. As so often, Sunday is looking like the good day
Congratulations, bandit! You got there!
Slipshade
May 13 2005, 09:53 PM
Scrap - Nice post, unfortunately I may not be able to get anything up for you until Monday. Sorry man, weekends are just to damn hard to post on for me.
Slip
Cedric Rolfsson
May 13 2005, 10:11 PM
My advise for the new graduate. . . . don't. Stay in college its a hell of a lot more fun than this career, real world crap. It keeps getting in the way of my hobbies.
Reality, congrats Bandit, big congrats.
Cedric
Slipshade
May 13 2005, 10:24 PM
Cedric - LOL! That's the truth. I have thought numerous times that I may just go back to college and never leave.
Just keep taking out those loans and never have to pay them back since I would still be in school.
Slip
And yes, congrats on the graduation!!!!
WinterRat1
May 13 2005, 10:28 PM
Heh, I echo the above thoughts. Money's no good if you never have time to spend it.
banditf50
May 13 2005, 11:38 PM
Thank you all for your congratulatory posts. I appreciate the support and advice . . . hopefully you will be pleased to know that I will not be leaving the academic world just yet. I will be starting a M.S. degree in the fall . . .you don't have to tell me about the many benefits of avoiding the real world
Thank you all.
-bandit
WinterRat1
May 14 2005, 04:42 PM
Sedna- Did you want me to post something in response to your last post or will Dragon automatically look back where he thinks he saw something?
PS- I didn't do drugs before posting your last post. And I didn't watch Alice in Wonderland. Just so you know.
bclements
May 14 2005, 04:53 PM
grendel: Basing my post on Sedna's weather guidelines above. I'm going to give some preemptive rolls for trying to get a cab in the middle of the Ice Age:
[ Spoiler ]
Bargaining 5:
2, 5, 4, 2, 11
Also, I have no clue as to what is in Everett, and whether or not a psec would have a map (and even if it does have a map, whether it would show anything of use). If it does, that's another option for
Tony. Tell me if I need body rolls for him as needed.
banditf50: Way to go! And yes, stay in school. Real World bad, very bad
grendel
May 14 2005, 07:07 PM
They left the truck for you if you want to take it. Otherwise it'll be about twenty five minutes before a cab shows up.
Sedna
May 14 2005, 08:31 PM
To the PS, I know, WinterRat
-- and I actually had to edit something out of the degree to which I had adopted your -- no, it goes beyond "just" metaphor. Symbology, maybe? And
Alleycat has the knowledge (if not emotional connection) to identify and comprehend the symbology -- parallel to my own areas of focus in real life as it happens, although her ability is probably much greater in the abstract/applied, worse in the practical/emotional. (Maybe invert the numbers for lit/arts and psychology; add in a couple of spiritual disciplines for the RL version.) Although if you think about it, there have to be many, many magicians who've told the Dweller on the Threshold to f-off in one form or another ... although there wouldn't be any records of how many of them survived the experience (intact or otherwise).
As to the threesome storyline, I'm already assuming that
Dragon did automatically look back, and that's the most he can make out from any conventional angle in the kitchen. It's only
Dragon's vision and perceptiveness that allowed him to spot it in the first place. (Forgot to mention in-post, it's middling dark in there: and if you test it, you'll find the electricity has been cut off.) There's something, close to the back, that seems to have fallen through the (less than inch-wide) crack between the refrigerator and the countertop/cabinets.
Given that you said you didn't want to make "tracks", I'm letting you figure out what to do about it
banditf50
May 15 2005, 10:58 PM
I am back everyone, after having traveled 1,700 miles (700 by car and 1,000 by plane) all in a 23 hour time-span. Nothing for those of you who do much international traveling, but a lot for my someone of my usual boring routine
I am about ready get some sleep, but I wanted to post this first in keeping with my goal to never fall behind in awards again. . .
Sunday Karma AwardsCedric: (May 9th-15th) 1 pt
Moirdryd: (May 9th-15th) 1pt
Sedna
May 15 2005, 11:33 PM
Good timing. For me at least, the boards just came back up
Sunday karma: (for the week of May 9-15)bandit: 1 (+1 GM bonus + 1 for Sheepdog) = 3
Sentinel: 1
tiredronin: 1 (+1 for a reason I can't disclose yet
) = 2
WinterRat 1 (+1 GM bonus) = 2
[Sorry about that, bandit. Fixed now.]
Sedna
May 16 2005, 05:04 PM
QUOTE |
Extreme ways are back again Extreme places I didn't know I broke everything new again Everything that I'd owned I threw it out the windows, came along Extreme ways I know move apart The colors of my sea Perfect color me
Extreme ways that that help me Help me out at night Extreme places I had gone But never seen any light Dirty basements, dirty noise Dirty places coming through Extreme worlds alone Did you ever like it planned
I would stand in line for this There's always room in life for this
Oh baby, oh baby Then it fell apart, fell apart Oh baby, oh baby Then it fell apart, it fell apart Oh baby, oh baby Then it fell apart, it fell apart Oh baby, oh baby Like it always does, always does
Extreme songs that told me They helped me down every night I didn't have much to say I didn't get above the light I closed my eyes and closed myself And closed my world and never opened Up to anything That could get me along
I had to close down everything I had to close down my mind Too many things to cover me Too much can make me blind I've seen so much in so many places So many heartaches, so many faces So many dirty things You couldn't believe
I would stand in line for this It's always good in life for this
Oh baby, oh baby Then it fell apart, fell apart Oh baby, oh baby Then it fell apart, it fell apart Oh baby, oh baby Then it fell apart, it fell apart Oh baby, oh baby Like it always does, always does |
WinterRat1
May 16 2005, 05:19 PM
Uh Sedna, that last post means what?
Sedna
May 16 2005, 06:06 PM
Just me watching the development of at least six separate and increasingly interlinking character stories
(And no: it's not going to get explained further
)
Oh,
Eyes, since you've been working in and commenting on Shadowland a lot ("half a conversation"!), and I haven't yet been able to play with it IC, I'd better mention this explicitly -- and just fyi this applies to every player, not just you:
Every player is free to pursue any hook they want. You aren't limited to a linear pursuit. You'll be working with your player GM in doing so, and the rest of the world won't ever stand still while/if you're doing so -- but I want to emphasise again the essential freedom of your character's actions. (Of course, as always, with all actions come consequences
)
WinterRat1
May 16 2005, 07:20 PM
Sedna- In your response post, please be sure to specify whether or not Alleycat will continue down the path they are currently going down, or if she will pull back and try to stop.
Sedna
May 16 2005, 08:36 PM
Was that an adequate indication of continuing down the path?
(There really isn't an adequate smiley for this. Although I'm looking at the ones standardly on the side, left column, third from the bottom, and trying to picture your face if I posted it.)
WinterRat1
May 16 2005, 08:37 PM
Wait, just tell me OOC, so Talia is/is not going along with it? Cause I actually am not really sure, reading that post. And that smiley would have gotten me fired, because I'd have been on the ground laughing so hard they'd think I was insane.
Sedna
May 16 2005, 08:41 PM
And now I'm suddenly flashing on grendel's
Tino Yes, she's going along with it. Yes, she's continuing along that path. And yes: she had to have that one random, disconnected thought at that moment ... or it really wouldn't be her.
WinterRat1
May 16 2005, 08:47 PM
OK that is what I thought, and that’s certainly what it
sounded like, but given that that’s obviously a very significant decision for any number of reasons, I wanted to be absolutely certain I was reading your response correctly before posting the reply. Isn’t it nice to get some attention as a player for a change?
Ah, it’s good to be back as a GM.
grendel
May 16 2005, 08:51 PM
I use Extreme Ways as the music for the closing credits on my Shadowrun games.
WinterRat1
May 16 2005, 09:08 PM
Paul- give me an Force check for the watcher.
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