Quick and possibly highly relevant rules question (grendel? WinterRat?):

Karma pool can be perma-burned for successes, so long as at least one natural success was achieved, right? Can this also be done for soak tests? If yes: burning one karma pool point on each roll could reduce the total damage to 2 x M ...?

Heh, may have to edit my IC post if that is true.

Slipshade- You will need to edit regardless. I thought there was only one type of ammo that forced you to use impact armor for resisting, am I mistaken? I do not have the books in front of me, so I might well be. Anyway, I told you to use Impact armor because they are firing gel rounds.

As soon as we get a rules ruling you can decide if you want to permanently burn 1 karma per attacker to stage it down to two M wounds (assuming the rules allow this of course). If you decide not to permanently burn karma regardless of the ruling, you should edit your post to reflect going unconscious with 10 boxes of Stun and 2 boxes of Physical.

Ahh, didn't catch that when I read through it. I knew Ididn't have armor so I kind of ignored that fact. I will wait on the Karma ruling first before I edit.

Burning karma for successes requires at least one success on the test. Each success costs one point of karma pool. Karma pool burned in this fashion are lost permanently.

Glazer, flechette, hollowpoint, and mercury rounds all utilize impact or ballistic plus impact to resist.

Ah, thanks Grendel. That's what happens when you have to post at work with no books for reference.

Well then to clarify Slipshade: They were firing gel rounds at you, so worse case scenario with your rolls as they stand is what i said previously: 10 boxes of Stun and 2 boxes of Physical. Post your decision in the OOC thread and edit your IC post to match.

I guess the question becomes, can I make it to the roof before they get another shot?

That would depend on the results of an initiative roll. Everyone is pretty much done for the turn, so I'd make you all roll initiative. If you went first, you'd make it to the roof before they got off another shot. Oh one more thing though, if you remain conscious you will need to make a knockback/knockdown roll to see if you retain your grip on the ladder, with the option to substitute strength for willpower if you so choose (GM situational ruling). Does that cover everything?

Yep, pretty much what I thought. I am just weighing spending karma that I would really like to keep or taking the chance that I will win Initiative (Unlikely with all of the modifiers). On top of everything else, I need to figure out what Max the character would do, not what Slipshade the player would do.



Never mind...Burn the Karma and climb like mad, that is what Max would do. I will change my post and then post my initiative here.

Knockback/Knockdown Roll.

Willpower = 5 Dice: 10,05,04,04,02

Let me know if I stay on, I have no idea what I am rolling against.

Initiative: d6 + 4 -3 (Serious Stun) = 6+4-3 = 7 (woot! best I could pull off!)

A little late for coulda-woulda-shouldas, but for next time I'd say a good mage would've cast an Invisability spell of some kind before climbing the ladder.

By the way, does taking a Deadly Stun wound force you to test for Magic Loss? The text mentions deadly wounds, but doesn't say whether that is just deadly physical or any deadly.

Eyes,

One problem with that...One Max does not yet have invisibility. Believe me I would have used it if I had had it.

I tried not to take all of the "usual" spells with this character. He is very different from the shamans that I normally play, which is why I am having so much fun with him. I am also playing this character as very new to his magic and shadowrunning. This is the first time he has ever been shot at.

Oh and you might want to stay away from the "a good mage" type comment. It could be taken as insulting. An "Experienced Mage" would be a better way to put it.

Remember everyones character here is very different. I didn't muchkin this character or take a lot of the standards, because I figured LiTS would give me the opportunity to try something different, which it has and it has been a blast.

Slip

WinterRat1 - After I find out if Ihang on I will edit the post.

Slip

I'm thinking our first in-thread combat is going to be an interesting survival issue for most of our PCs. Just wait until Alleycat runs into serious trouble! (Totally selfish karma-burn question there, of course )

[Spirits, someone else post, quick! There's far too much "Sedna" at the top of this page.]

Slip- Good news, good/bad news, and bad news.

Good news: You hang onto the ladder.

Good/Bad news:
Initiative rolls of bad guys
1: 6
2: 8

Yes, I actually rolled that.

Bad news: #2 pegs you with two more bursts
Burst 1: 1 success
Burst 2: 3 sucesses. Same TN (as last time) for both Dodge and Body.

Sedna: Heck yeah! That ambush outside Tommy Wong's was brutal. Bandit and I still shudder to think of what would've happened if we just rushed out to the street without him noticing the mage first. And that elemental engulf/sniper combo...and that samurai. I still remember the feeling I had rolling my two shots and getting what, 7 and 9 successes, with him getting no combat pool due to surprise, and thinking 'aw yeah...I got him but good. He's going down no problem.'

And then seeing your Body rolls...and tentatively asking if you remembered there was no CP...and being told yes...that was straight body...and the immediate, 'oh crap!' that elicted from me.

And yes, I figured there was some selfish motivations behind asking about the karma burn question.

Heh. Yah for a minute I was contemplating letting WinterRat1 capture me just to see what would happen, but I know what I would do to characters in my game if they did that, so I thought it best to run.

WinterRat1 - LOL! those rolls are priceless, guess I may find out what happens when Igo unconcious after all.

So If I survive the attack from Goon Squad Member #2 then I can get out? Just making sure I read that right.

You might end up kicking yourself when you found out what would've happened, but hey, if I was you, I'd have done the same thing. Placing yourself completely in your GMs hands is NEVER a good thing, as I'm sure we all here can attest to as a player or GM, or both.

I am likely going to find out anyway.

Quick note before we continue: you realize it's Karma POOL and NOT Good Karma you just burned, right?

Actually forgot that and considering I only have 1 Karma Pool, guess I just take the hit and go unconcious without spending the pool then.

Good thing to as this was going to be my post if I don't spend the Karma

omg (!)

Um...ouch. Good thing you didn't spend the karma. Actually a better way to say it is good thing you didn't HAVE the karma to burn. Looks like you'll find out what happens when you leave yourself at the mercy of your friendly neighborhood GM after all...

Eyes,

No offense taken, it just read badly that is all, hence the suggestion of "experienced mage."

I'm good...right now Max isn't, but it sould be fun to see where WinterRat1 goes with this.

Damn, I had a meet tonight too.

"Um, sorry Mr. Fan...I got my ass shot off today and fell off a latter...can I get a rain check".

Heh, as the one guy who's seen everyone's character sheets, I have to say that most of the LITS characters wouldn't make in most other games. Which is why your GM staff is eagerly looking forward to what actually happens when a fight does break out.

We figure it should give you all a chance to express your creativity and experience combat from an entirely different POV than the usual 'how can I destroy the most bad guys with the maximum efficiency/cool factor/destructiveness/insert adjective of your choice'.

I would like to add that is a compliment to all of you, the players of LITS. When we started that was exactly what we were looking for, and are pleased to have gotten: characters who are PEOPLE first, and RUNNERS (heck in quite a few cases not even runners) second. In my own opinion at least, the amount of role-playing has been awesome, and it's been a blast to read everyone's stories and watch them unfold and the characters come to life.

I for one am excited to see how each one of your stories unfolds, if the thread progress thus far is any indication, then it tells me it's going to be great!

I was mentioning to the GMs the other day, after an in-game month, you could copy and paste this thread (and all related ones) direct, and you'd have a pretty freaking good (and LONG) novel. A testament to all the players and GM staff here who've made that happen.

And it just hit me, since I didn't give much a testimonial to our 1000 post bonus karma point (happens when you sneak in posts at work), consider this it. Great job everyone!

Sedna- that works great, until your other two party members happen to be a monk and a two-weapon melee fighter relying on dexterity. Doh! And guess who was the mage?

I'll add also that Bandit and Ronin's brother (playing the monk) collective attitude was: Quit being a wuss and suck it up! You've got 4 hit points! As long as the GM rolls 1 on damage, you'll be fine!

Slipshade- Give me a Body or Willpower roll (whichever is higher) against a TN of 6 as well.

I was always the charge-heroically-to-my-death-Paladin guy. And somehow I never died

Relying, shmying. Dexterity is for wusses

General Public Announcement

I'd like to welcome Shadow aboard as our latest addition to the GM Staff of LITS! He will be joining us as a Run GM, and he (or your World GMs) will most likely be recruiting (in game) as soon as we have the relevant details worked out amongst the GM staff. So don't worry, your fixers and/or appropriate contacts will contact you if they think you're the right fit for the job.

Welcome aboard Shadow!

Always bearing in mind that he's the "I was always the charge-heroically-to-my-death-Paladin guy."

Damn straight

You know, Slipshade, in an ironic sort of way, Max's karma pool probably did save his life ...

FYI: Something life-urgent has come up. I don't know if I'll be back to the computer today; but hopefully it will just be the one day. Pass the word as needed, please?

Sedna,

Of course the word will be passed. Best of luck with what need's your attention. I hope that things turn out alright.

Sedna,

Yah, never thought it would be a good thing not to have karma.

Good luck with the Real Life stuff. I hope everything is ok.

OK WinterRat1 post is edited and Willpower roll is: 11,05,02,02,01

Welcome to our world, Shadow. *tries not to sound too evil saying it*

@Grendel: a perception roll, if you need one:

That patio is covered by cameras mounted discreetly at the corners of the house and protected by armored lexan bubbles. The installations are multi-spectrum, mobile, with 10X optical zoom, and probably linked to data recorders somewhere in the house. It's a professional installation, and difficult to bypass. Also, the grounds of the house feature defensive landscaping, and the floodlights are set so that their backscatter from the walls raises the ambient light level to constant low-light. It's a layered, state of the art defensive system, and only the exposure to a long range sniper shot keeps Cosmo from feeling safe. That and her dinner companion, of course.

Of course....

Thanks for the rundown!

Welcome Shadow!

Heheheheheheheheh.

Ahem.

You're welcome.

Puh-lease .. he's just a big ol' misunderstood teddy bear, I'm sure of it ....

Yes, that's it exactly. Make sure you continue to operate under that assumption.

Not sure what to roll for code breaking... Intel I guess?

10 10 08 05 05 05 04 03 03 01

If you need something else from me about it, let me know, otherwise just let me know I don't get anything so I can move foward.

The program spits out gibberish, no matter how you rearrange the resulting string of numbers none of the locations derived appear to make any sense. Also, given the resolution from your initial location, it appears the intersection of the lines of position is directly on top of the crypt.

On top or inside? Did the location indicate elevation?

No elevation information was supplied.

This crypt, is it like a structure or like a sarcophogus?