I'm here and completely willing to have you back as GM. Thanks, I'd just about given up.

Nice Vegas.

A note on my latest post for Aziz.

I struggled for a long time whether or not to write the spoilered part. It is an extremely harsh, violent, and brutal scene, and I strongly urge anyone with a sensitive or faint heart NOT to read it.

You will note I broke two of my own posting rules to both spoiler the post and break the IC wall to warn everyone not to open it unless they think they can handle it. I did that because the section contained therein is an unflinchingly horrific portrayal of the scene in question.

I ultimately decided to write the spoilered part because I believe it significantly adds to the post by doing an excellent job of smacking the reader in the face with just how violent and disgusting your little corner of Kingsgate is, even amongst the ordinary citizens. This is NOT a nice place, and this scene and its detailed description drives that point home with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer to the face.

If you want to see one of the ways I have chosen to portray this darkness of the soul, go ahead and read it, but know in advance that you have been warned.

It is not strictly necessary for anyone, including Voorhees, to read it to understand the main point of the post and respond, but it definitely adds to the reader's picture of the world of the October Ravens to read it.

I have never written anything so graphic or overtly sexualized, and certainly nothing as violent in its sexuality as this post. For those who do read it, I would very much appreciate your feedback because I will need to portray sexual encounters, many of a brutal and violent nature, in the future; because that is a realistic picture of the world you live in.

I told everyone in the beginning this game will force you to dig very deeply into your characters’ personal ethics and morality, and in doing so there would be a high probability you personally will feel uncomfortable, that reading some of what I write will make you squirm.

I believe that a failure to honestly represent the depravity of Kingsgate and its denizens would ultimately do them and our game a disservice, and that is why I wrote this post, and will write others like it, in the future if and when the situation calls for it.

I won’t force anyone to read certain scenes (not all of the brutal posts will be sexual in nature, but they will all be pretty darn nasty in their own way), it’s entirely up to you how deep into the rabbit hole you want to go.

But for those who do go in, I would like your feedback to ensure I do those scenes justice by writing them well, not just graphically or sensationally. I want to convey a clear feeling and picture of the scene, the people, and the world, not just beat you over the head with disgusting descriptive language. Since this style of writing for this particular subject material is treading new ground for me, your assistance in quality control is appreciated.

For those who don’t go in, I understand completely. We’re here to play a game and have fun, not scar anyone. Just know that these scenes will happen again, and you will need to choose to avoid them, because I won’t shrink back from painting Kingsgate exactly as the hellhole it is.

Any comments, thoughts, questions, or concerns are more than welcome. As I said, I’m treading new ground here and I want to know how you all feel about it, since this is our game, not mine. I eagerly (but with some trepidation) await your replies.

Disturbing, but yes it conveyed the horror. I questioned writing and submitting some of Baby's background too, but I think I got a much better grasp of how she is after doing so. The only thing I would worry about is whether or not the DSF will have a problem with the language or portrail of the act in question.

As for the writing, yes it was graphic, disturbing and very effective. It made me uncomfortable reading it, but that was the point so good job.

Oh, you may want to add that it is only for those 18 years of age or older.

Already cleared it with the mods. They told me that since game threads are generally limited to a very small, select audience (typically only the players themselves, plus occasionally a few interested spectators), they allow us to police ourselves, assuming we will determine what is and is not appropriate for our game by general consensus.

Unless someone complains they don't make it a habit of reading through the game threads to determine appropriateness since it's assumed the audience in question will self-evaluate and take care of the matter internally, and the wider DSF population is not exposed to the material, so it's functionally a non-issue to them.

Hence why I ask the opinion of those who choose to read the section.

Ahhh. Well write on good sir, write on.

Good idea Slip, I edited it, just to be on the safe side. Obviously that won't actually stop anyone under 18 from reading it if they choose to, but it's good to cover our bases in case it becomes an issue later.

I highly doubt we have anyone under the age of 18 in our game, just judging from the subject material of this campaign, the stringent restrictions/demands for entry, and general post and player quality. But you never know, and it's better safe than sorry.

Holy cow. Man that took me kinda by surprise.

You wrote it well, WinterRat, and I didn't find it sexualized at all. Kudos.

Anyway, for Aziz's attack.

Kalila (8P)
Blades 11 + Charging 2 - Called Shot(DV+4) 4 = 9 dice

[6] [5] 1 4 3 [6] [6] [5]

So, 5 hits at a base of 12P damage

Hopefully that takes him out. Hopefully. If you want to fast forward the fight after that, Aziz will attack the troll in her mouth until he's dead, then the one behind her, and finally the one laying down. If it's prudent for him to do so as well, Aziz's SMG will come out and start spitting some hot leaden death.

I suspect Aziz won't be in such great shape when he's done with this.

Well you returned the favor with your sudden and brutal attack, which I didn't expect (I thought you'd at least talk first). Since you caught me so completely off guard, I automatically gave you surprise over everyone else.

Quick mechanical note, how did you get a base damage of 8P for Kalila?

I have your STR of 6, which gives me base weapon damage of (6/2)+3 = 6, +1 for Arnis De Mano, for 7P and -1AP.

Adding in your called shot gives me 11P. Where are you getting the extra +1P?

In this case it's irrelevant because your initial strike took him out, but let me know for future reference.

In the IC post I'm about to put up they're going to be talking to you, so if you continue the fight roll initiative and we'll handle the fight in the OOC thread since it's very small in scale.

If you choose to talk and not keep fighting (at least for the moment) just post IC until the fight resumes, if it does.

Hmm, I guess when I wrote it down when I first made the character sheet, I made a mistake and never caught it. I'll fix it on the wiki.

I'm honestly going to admit that the idea of talking it out never occurred to me... I guess I need to try to focus less on kick in the door and kill the monster style play.

Hahahhahaha!

Well like I said above, the idea that you'd just kick in the door and start killing people never occurred to me either, so I guess we're even. If we were playing a more subtle/finesse oriented game that might be a problem, but in this game, with these people, Aziz fits in just fine.

Of course, that mentality did get the 410 Crash into trouble before, as I recall...

Well, like Shade says on the Wiki, Aziz will start a fight because he can.

Then his actions just now were certainly true to form.

Grendel - Along with your next IC post, roll Charisma + Con or Leadership. Con if you're misrepresenting your actual position, Leadership if you're genuinely trying to sway him with the truth.

Charisma + Leadership (7 dice) = 3, 6, 2, 6, 5, 3, 1 (3 hits)

If you need me to make an intimidation roll, let me what know what modifiers I have.

@WR1
Felix will keep watch on the astral.

Childs message is to all Ravens(and in one case others) that he knows, and have a comlink, and are in range, either by direct broadcast (peer to peer), or in matrix range as the case may be.

Voorhees - No need to make an Intimidation roll, they're already quite intimidated. I'll post the results of your intimidation in my IC response.

Lindt, Vegas, Pragma - Only Thumper and Nevada will receive Child's message. Everyone else is out of range/the signal won't go through.

Mister Juan - Noted.

Just noted new action. Been away for a little.

WR, you pegged it right, I'm equally happy to remain a player. would love to get back in, and will catch up on the reading/posting as available.

v/r
rob

WR, I'm still holding.
Twiggs and I anticipated that it might go this way. The plan is that if things go south Twiggs will get to the door, even if he get's popped in the mouth a couple of times, and I'll hold them up when they come out. I'm only going in if he looks like he's in real danger, cause we don't want to go robbing people in Plastic Sushi. That's trouble that we really don't want.
Now if someone pulls a gun, or he gets beat down and they start kicking, I'll go in guns blazing, but only if it's a real emergency.

PS, I read the other posts, and I thought you did just fine. Graphic without being gratuitous. Good job.

Dear great googly moogly!


YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEFUCKINGHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Welcome back Winter. It's great to have you back. Okay, so who we gonna kill?

(Lousy hummngbird attention span not figureing this out earlier)



@Winter: Did any of us a the church get Child's message?

Heya!

Ok, I see this is OOC, so I figured it's ok to post.

According to the Wikisite, you're recruiting? Or...not? The forum says one thing, the wiki another. I just was curious, because I'm kind of curious to try this out.

Elfenrir - The wiki is wrong. I will look into changing it. That being said it will really be WR1's call.

Though I have to admit "kind of curious to try this out" doesn't give me a much of a vote of confidence. Most of the players here are seriously sick in the head dedicated (myself included).

I just want you to know what you are getting into if you do try to get in the game. I would say that if you are serious, go back and read all of the wiki, OOC and IC and I do mean all of it. Believe me, those of us that may look over your potential character will be able to tell whether or not you have. Character building and 20 questions usually takes about a month or so before you get approval.

Oh, well, when I say ''kind of curious'', don't mind my usual understatement of things. I'm known to write novels out of 20 questions for my characters. Deep characters that I can get into is just my thing, don't worry about that.

I've been reading the wiki; starting with the beginning, reading all of the characters, the deal with it, etc. I had a concept for this for quite a while, actually(from when i first saw the thread), but I didn't get a chance to get in on time. Well, I'll continue reading the wiki in any case.

@ Slip - Don't worry about the wiki, I'll get to changing that ASAP Wiki-Mistress back in the house and all

@ElFenrir + @ChipheadCharley- Since WR1 and I have been talking about "recruiting" as of late along with the restarting of the game I can give you a little heads up as to what's going on there. We're NOT actively recruiting in the sense of having a thread up and amassing submissions to be chosen or denied or whatever as we've done before. That being said we will ALWAYS accept for consideration players who toss well thought out characters our way, no guarantees of acceptance, but if you've got a good concept and they're someone who will fit into this game and you show that you're dedicated enought to stick with the game at the pace and intensity that this game sometimes demands, we'll definitely take you under consideration. If you'd like, feel free to toss Slipshade and myself a PM with your thoughts + concept (and a CS if you have one made based on the rules on the Wiki) and we'll start review and discussion about it before passing it up the chain to WR1.

V - You rock, as usual.

Well, thanks for the info! I'll keep cracking on this concept I have while reading up on the wiki, and send off at least a basic idea of what he's about. I understand it might not happen soon, if at all, and it will take me a bit to finish puzzling through the wiki(reading up on the other characters is a big help, at least I kinda know what people go for. It seems that there are all kinds of concepts, so mine isn't too weird I don't think. And no, it's nothing strange. Just a mundane human.)

@Vegas
Need a hand with the Wiki?

@MJ - At this very second, nope. Planning with WR as to what we're doing with it specifically, and THEN at that point I might come begging for help... right now I've got it covered. Plus I can always harass Sparky if necessary Thanks for the offer though!

@All - Small request to everyone re: the wiki, once we figure out what we want to do with pages + the like I might ask you guys to go in an clean up your personal pages (CS's especially) just to alleviate some of the mass-edits that need to be made. I would suggest however that we don't get trigger happy deleting takes of PC's that at were at one point in the game just because they haven't piped in about their return or lack there of. Besides, who knows what will happen to them if their players do not return

I'll send my questions your way then

WIKI UPDATE:

I've taken the liberty to move some PC's around on the Gang Roster. Those that we haven't heard from or haven't had contact attempted have been moved to the "inactive" section at the bottom of the page but not deleted. Not yet at least. I think after a month from now if players aren't coming back, aren't going to tell us one way or another we'll be removing their PC's from the wiki and removing their editing/posting access as well just to cause less headaches.

If anyone's got a problem with that, speak now or forever hold your mouth shut

Bearclaw - OK, I'll NPC and roll for Twiggs then and stick to the plan so you can keep playing. I don't want you to get held up while we wait for updates on Dantic's status, although we do have a PM out to him.

Meriss - I liked your response to finding out we're back in business, I couldn't help but laugh. Apparently we have two rednecks in our gaming group. Although it is humorous you didn't notice we were back, considering how we've been hanging out at the top of the forum for the last several days.

And no on getting Child's message; only Thumper and Nevada received Child's message.

Also, in your IC post, was this sentence directed AT the Black Plague?


ChipheadCharley & ElfFenrir - The wiki has been updated on the front page to accurately reflect the application process.

Character concepts and any deviations from the written character generation guidelines should be discussed with me.

Once I give my approval to begin working on the mechanics you may contact Slipshade or Vegas to handle the actual number crunching/mechanics/character checking. If you have further questions that are outside the chargen guidelines you can of course come back to me, but any 'standard issue' questions should be directed to one of those two.

In practical terms, Charley you can start talking to either of them unless they direct you back to me or you have a question outside of the chargen guidelines.

ElfFenrir, feel free to send me a concept at any time and we will open discussion of your character. As Slip said, have as much of the stuff read as you can, because I will send you back to the drawing board if it's obvious you don't 'get' the game and what we're looking for. But if you have an idea already that you think fits DITG, feel free to send it over.

Everyone - If you posted something for me in the OOC thread that needed response and I didn't respond to you here, please repost/prod/remind me, because I missed it. Think I caught everything in this thread but you all know how that goes...

@Winter: Yah, apparently my country blood sneaks up on me. To be honest once DiTG collapsed I stopped checking DS compulsively. Work hasn't been helping either. But now......

Yes indeed Ink is baiting the Plague. If he's not happy no one will be.

Well then...that changes my IC post for you quite a bit.

Aziz is rubbing off on Ink, eh?

And by the way you all DO know there's no more Hand of God in DITG, right? One life is all you get, and no continues.

Hello all. Glad to see that you guys are reviving the thread. I am, unfortunately, unable to continue at this time, due to work related constraints. Have fun!

Lindt - Does Child really not have a Perception skill? I rolled for my next IC post for you, and I didn't see one. Lucky for you, I'm a very good dice roller.

EDIT: I'm holding off on your next IC post because I have to resolve what happens inside the gang HQ first with Thumper and possibly Nevada, if she chooses to get involved. I haven't forgotten you, just holding off until your next IC post comes up in the flow of events. You can of course communicate with Thumper and Nevada during their scene. Assuming your commlink gets through, that is...

Bearclaw - Since Dantic isn't coming back, I'm not going to describe what happens inside the restaurant like I did last time, since that was for his benefit in case he came back. I will only describe the events as they unfold from Rico's perspective, since obviously he can't see or hear inside Plastic Sushi.

Consequently, I also changed the title of the post to just 'Rico', since 'Twiggs' is now officially an NPC.

Rob - I'm going to let Adamu respond to your post, hence why no IC post from me.

Rob and Adamu - FYI, to save time I just rolled for you guys and determined that Grack came up with a list of tools needed and the two of you figured out generally what you need to do to achieve your goal of running water. I'm not going to waste time researching what the problem really is and determining what you really need, because despite the name of this game, I have no desire to go learn the actual mechanics of gutters and sewer systems.

So just assume you have 'a list' of what you need and a plan for how to use it in what you think is the correct manner.

Everyone - Responses up for everyone except Child, for reasons noted above. If I missed you let me know, but I think I caught you all. Clearly, the game is on again.

No worries. I didn't exactly do something that is typical for the PCs in this game (aka cower and call for help). He is definitely in range of Thumper and Nevada, as his Erika Elite has a signal rating of 4, giving it a 1km broadcast/receive range.
And yes, Child is lacking in a perception type skill. I shall have to use some karma and start working on that.

*edit*
WR, your my hero.

**Reads Meriss's post and starts to roll up next character.**

Trust me, given how lethal SR 4 can be, especially in a low power setting like this one, cowering and calling for help is not necessarily a bad idea. In fact, it's a great idea if you want to stay alive longer. Some of the other PCs could probably take lessons from Child in discretion. And remember, with no Hand of God, one mistake is all it takes. Sometimes, it doesn't even take that...

And signal rating/range isn't the issue. It's service. You're assuming that your commlink works as it's supposed to. This is Kingsgate, remember? Not exactly a shining beacon of quality service and consistent performance.

Yeah, did not expect that. This could get interesting in a hurry.

Aziz isn't trying to kill them, maybe just plant a couple bullets in their legs for effect. Still, I'll roll for it.

Ingram Smartgun 5P
Automatics 10 + Laser Sight 1 = 11 dice
[5] [5] 1 2 3 3 4 2 [6] 2 1

Automatics 10 + Laser Sight 1 - Additional target 2 - recoil 3 = 6 dice
1 2 4 [5] [6] 3

So he hits them, but once again, isn't trying to kill them.

Rico's doing his best Dirty Harry, hoping to make them back down without violence, but if there's a move at all, Rico will drop the Orc first.

Intimidation/physical 4 + cha 4.
1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6 = 5 success.
Damn he's scary

Just quickly - getting sicker and sicker - maybe mono - will post when I have energy, but it may be a while. Sorry.

@Winter: Well to be fair, Ink is down right pissed that no one seems to want to do anything to the Plague after they killed his buds. To be fair thou, he never really said nothing.

I'm just hoping to draw one of them into an arguement and maybe a bit of shoving. As long as Azzie don't come out of their mouths.

Meriss - It's totally cool my friend. I was just laughing and messing around with you because once again, player unpredictability cracked me up. If this was a 'typical' shadowrunner campaign, you all would have just stood there looking mean while you waited for Legion to finish his business. But in this gang campaign, well...things are different, and that makes it unpredictable, which in turn makes it entertaining.

In any event, I'm waiting on you/Mister Juan/Slipshade for an IC post, whoever wants to say/do something, so feel to post away in response to Alexis.

Glad I could make the GM laugh... that's worth Karma right? Seriously though...she's half asleep, what do you expect her reaction to be to a little Elven girl in the middle of their new HQ?