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Meriss
@Abbandon: And I just stole Fool's thunder by knowing about Zorro. biggrin.gif It just seems like something Ink would watch is all.
WinterRat1
All - Go ahead and squeeze in any roleplaying for the trip now, because I'm going to bump you all forward when I get the chance this week to the apartment Nevada talked about.
adamu
I will be travelling for the next few weeks. I will still be checking in every chance I get, so I doubt it will be an issue. But if anything from Grack is needed for the action to move forward, Winter by all means NPC me along to keep from holding things up.
WinterRat1
I've emailed Grendel and requested an update of his next 'orders' post for when you all arrive at the location Nevada is leading you to. When I have that post I will integrate it with my own post detailing your arrival. Hopefully this will free most of you up to post a little more frequently a little sooner.
WinterRat1
I have Grendel's next batch of 'orders' and the bump post planned, but my home internet is down so I haven't been able to post it yet. I will get it up as soon as possible in the next couple days to keep things moving along.
WinterRat1
Everyone - Post is up, orders have been given. Feel free to start posting away, and if you have any questions, let me know.
Abbandon
Should we still bring up the garage child and fool thought of or is that to far away now?
WinterRat1
You can still suggest it, but remember there were some potential issues with protecting something so close to Demons turf, and it's actually closer to them right now than it is to you (in the apartment building). In the end, it's your call whether to bring it up or just forget about it.
adamu
@Winter

Okay, this could be a long and involved process and I am unsure how you want to handle its resolution.

My intention is to start with the first two items on Legion's laundry list - scout the whole place, and in the process evict anyone here. With no idea about the dimensions of this place and how many people are living here, I don't know how much I can fluff and how much you will want to be involved in.

As noted IC, dropping Detect Enemies.

First, some basic questions:

How many floors?

Basic length/width of building?

Structurally sound, or floors/stairways treacherous?

Power?

Obviously fully occupied? Or not so?

Grack really doesn't care if the place is lit up like Christmas, he'll just start throwing people out.

Here are my basic intentions:

Start at roof (could be squats up there)

Work his way down floor by floor, door by door.

Chop through any door he can't kick open.

Each person he meets either runs or gets murdered. Bodies thrown out windows.

Have no idea how much opposition there will be, so I will leave you with those intentions for now and see how far I get before you want to describe some sort of progress or I encounter some trouble you want to resolve.
WinterRat1
Adamu - Go ahead and fluff the whole thing. There will be no significant opposition to Grack in the building, so whatever you want to do, go for it. As far as scavenging, no one in here has anything of value, unless you want to take their shredded up clothes (which are in an even worse state than Grack's!).

With the recent gang war, business has dried up in Kingsgate so money, chips, booze, drugs, etc. have not been flowing. Peace needs to kick in a bit so the economy can move off of its wartime footing. Economics 101 in action!

(And yes I realize wars often stimulate the economy, but let's just say the people in this building haven't exactly been the beneficiaries of said economic upswing)

Just so you know, there are a few story events coming up that will conceivably influence whether or not you guys actually make this your HQ, so I don't want to fully detail a building that you might end up not even occupying. Hence for now, use the answers below, with the disclaimer that I reserve the right to flesh them out/change them later if you all decide to stay.

This part is to give you all the opportunity to role-play, get out and do stuff, and depending on dumb luck rolls (which I will make in secret) start playing pivotal parts in the story.

This is essentially an intermission allowing you guys to start getting set up before some of my preplanned story events kick in and things heat up. So take advantage of this time to do what you can, but realize the world is dynamic and things might start changing very soon...vegm.gif

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How many floors? - 3

Basic length/width of building? - For simplicity's sake, for now assume the building is like a cube, staircases in the middle and each side (left/right) of the building. 6 rooms on each side of a hallway, evenly distributed through the floor.

Structurally sound, or floors/stairways treacherous? - Mostly structurally sound, but there is the possibility of treacherous footing. It will not affect your post one way or another.

Power? - No

Obviously fully occupied? Or not so? - Say about 50% occupancy

Grack really doesn't care if the place is lit up like Christmas, he'll just start throwing people out. Each person he meets either runs or gets murdered. Bodies thrown out windows. - I highly encourage this, for flavor and post entertainment value if nothing else.
pragma
Sorry for being a bit incommunicado this month; it's been hectic.

Any rate, Thumper's planning on following orders and looking imposing while Ink does all the real work. He's going to spiral out from the HQ in a fairly inefficient and wandering pattern.
Meriss
Oh Ink don't mind someone else looking imposing, he's prolly going to be pretty quiet while he does the tagging thing.
WinterRat1
All - In case anyone didn't know, my internet access is still sketchy. I've been down since Dec. 12 and 3 Comcast technicians haven't fixed the problem yet. They're sending an MDU (Multi-Dwelling Unit) team to fix the problem tomorrow morning, so hopefully they deal with it successfully and I'm up and running by tomorrow.

I mention this because I am going to start moving forward with the preplanned story events as soon as my internet access is regular and back up again.

So keep role-playing (great job so far everyone!) for now, and ask questions if you need more information. Otherwise, once I'm back up and running I'll start putting up posts for specific people as the events arise.

Merry Christmas everyone!
WinterRat1
Vegas - Go ahead and write a fluff post at Slippy's. You know Shade well enough to know how he'll respond to Nevada. If you have questions, just ask.

Lindt - You can either fluff Legion telling Child to exercise his judgment and do what needs to be done to carry out his instructions, discuss with Fool what to do next, or join Bockscar/Felix/Aziz, as Bockscar's just waved you over.

I can tell you that with the sitrep, you've basically fulfilled your orders to the point that if you go over to the trio, it would not reflect badly on Child. It's obvious more work and personnel will be needed given what you said, since Child and Fool can't hold down the place they found by themselves, and need more people/vehicles if they're going to hit the 405. Of course, if you want to exercise the initiative to go out to either of those places and find a way to make it work, be my guest...wink.gif
Mister Juan
@rob
Hey mate, I was just wondering if you had already made a healing roll for Bock? If not, I'll cook up an IC post for Felix so he can roll medicine on Bockscar to shorten his healing time.
And another question concerning the very last thing Bockscar said to Felix: was he saying so with a genuine feeling of "I'll fuckin kill you", or was he just annoyed, or what? I'm just curious so I can write up a reaction on Felix's part (after all, he is supposed to be really good at "reading" peoples feelings wink.gif)

@WinterRat1
I know it sounds like a REALLY dumb quesiton, but having Felix try to speed up Bockscar healing has made me think of something. Can he do the same on Aziz? I didn't think so at first since he's already been at the hospital... but I don't remember Voor rolling for healing at any point.
rob
@MisterJuan

Naw, didn't make a healing roll for box because the wound occurred prior to game start, and because I don't really know what else to do in RL for a sucking chest wound so I couldn't properly fluff it out. Feel free to take that liberty.

Box's IC post responding to aziz should clarify where he's coming from. He meant it to be a more "tsk tsk, naughty man" type chastisement - he's waving the stripped-down upper receiver of a rifle (the metal thingy that holds the bolt and that the barrel screws into) at you.
WinterRat1
Bockscar is acting civil to people? What did I miss? eek.gif

QUOTE
I know it sounds like a REALLY dumb quesiton, but having Felix try to speed up Bockscar healing has made me think of something. Can he do the same on Aziz? I didn't think so at first since he's already been at the hospital... but I don't remember Voor rolling for healing at any point.


I rolled magical healing for Aziz while he was at the hospital (I did it myself to save time since it occurred during the long downtime before I kicked things back into gear), which is why he was back on his feet so quick. I don't have my books with me, so I can't remember if you can do Medicine after magical healing to reduce healing time. I'll look it up and get back to you tomorrow if you don't check yourself.

As Rob said, Bockscar has never had a healing roll done for him, but it's past the time First Aid can be used (I think, again, no books to double check) but you can still use Medicine to speed up healing time for him.
adamu
@Winter

Grack will next be looking for two escape routes.

First search the basement for a way into the sewer system - can use Spatial Sense spell for that if necessary.

Then go up top and see if there is at least one structurally sound fire escape.

If either or both of those turn out to not be viable, will think of something else.
WinterRat1
Adamu

QUOTE
First search the basement for a way into the sewer system - can use Spatial Sense spell for that if necessary.


There is no access from the basement into the sewer system.

QUOTE
Then go up top and see if there is at least one structurally sound fire escape.


There is a structurally sound fire escape.
Mister Juan
@WinterRat1 (& rob)

Patching up Bockscar wounds
Logic (5) + Medicine (1) + Poor Conditions (-2) + Medkit (4) = 8 dices
Rolls:4,5,1,1,2,5,5,2 = 3 hits

So, that would give Bockscar +3 dices for his next healing tests.
All he's got to do now is rest wink.gif
adamu
@Winter -

Okey dokey.

First, look for some sort of back door that leads onto an alley, preferably on a different side of the building from where the fire escape leads down to.

Then, scout the alleys or back lots or whatever for routes away from those two egress points - mostly looking for relatively concealed alleys, or routes through other abbandoned structures, or, best of all, the nearest sewer entrances (which I will enter and scout).

Will IC after I hear from you and others have a chance to catch up in game time.
WinterRat1
QUOTE
First, look for some sort of back door that leads onto an alley, preferably on a different side of the building from where the fire escape leads down to.


You find a back alley door, the fire escape is on one of the sides of the building.

QUOTE
Then, scout the alleys or back lots or whatever for routes away from those two egress points - mostly looking for relatively concealed alleys, or routes through other abbandoned structures, or, best of all, the nearest sewer entrances (which I will enter and scout).


You can do this with no trouble. Eventually you'll find a sewer entrance nearby, but per my earlier disclaimer, I'm going to see how things shake out in the next few IC hours before detailing this area specifically, lest I do it unnecessarily.
adamu
@Winter - cool. Thanx for the speedy reply.

So quickly scouting all that is what Grack will do for the 30 minutes or from my last timestamp. That will put me well ahead of anyone else's time, so I will wait for others to get current, then IC.
WinterRat1
Internet is still down...two and a half weeks and counting...grr...I'm posting on a friend's computer, very possible I will not be able to post until after Jan 1, just to warn you all. I will post as soon as I can.
rob
Bockscar's last little bit seemed like the thing to do at the time. Don't want to to distract the chain too much out of a fluff post, but he'd have a problem with grack's methods.
WinterRat1
IC Advancement Post is up, everyone is free to post. Despite how I ended the post, anyone is free to respond, I simply directed Shade's question to Legion. I have summarized the results of your respective tasks in my post, although feel free to add fluff via flashback if you choose to do so.

I alluded to the potential Bockscar/Grack disagreement/conflict, but for the sake of moving the game forward I glossed it over. Rob and Adamu, feel free to flesh it out and implement it somehow if you two would like.

Health Notes
Note: I assumed everyone rested at least 2 hours, from 05:00:00 to 07:00:00, and made your recovery rolls for you accordingly. For those who specifically were tasked to rest, I gave you 4 hours of rest, from 03:00:00 to 07:00:00.

Pragma - You have healed both boxes of Stun. You now have 0 Stun, 2 Physical.

Unarmed - You have healed all four boxes of Stun. You now have 0 Stun, 1 Physical.

Rob - I assumed you crashed on both the Cram and Kamikaze at 03:00:00. Thus you suffered 12 Stun, or 10 Stun and 2 Physical, bringing you to 10 Stun and 8 Physical as of 03:00:00.

After 4 hours of rest, you healed all the Stun, leaving you with 0 Stun and 8 Physical as of 07:00:00. At that point, you could begin healing Physical damage.

I rolled a Physical Healing roll for you as well, with the +3 dice from Felix's Medicine roll. Assuming Bockscar does nothing but rest from 07:00:00 November 1 to 07:00:00 November 2, he will heal 6 boxes of Physical, leaving him with 0 Stun, 2 Physical at 07:00:00.

Voorhees - I did a healing roll for you too for when Aziz was at the hospital being treated. Assuming Aziz does nothing but rest from 03:00:00 November 1 to 03:00:00 November 2, he will heal 5 boxes of Physical, leaving him with 0 Stun, 0 Physical at 03:00:00.

Grendel, Pragma, Unarmed, Vegas - I did not roll Physical Healing rolls for your characters because I figured it was unlikely any of you were in a position to rest for the next 24 hours. If any of you opts to rest for the next 24 hours instead of being active, I will roll for you and post the results accordingly.

I think that about covers anything, if anyone has any questions let me know and I'll answer.

Oh, and I finally(!) have my home internet back up and running, so expect me to be back at my usual posting pace again. Like I promised, things are starting to pick up...smile.gif

EDIT: In case it wasn't obvious, that post was written from Shade's POV. I'm debating whether or not to add it to the journal, since I haven't determined the criteria for what gets added and what doesn't, but I wanted to keep up the whole first person journal POV thing, especially for advancement posts, so I don't inadvertently give too much away.

EDIT 2: Rob, I realized that if you crash on Cram, you'll be out for (12-Body) or 6 hours, which means you'll be unconscious until 09:00:00 November 1, just fyi.
adamu
@Winter - you left me off the rest list, so I rolled for my two boxes of drain stun myself. Won't bother you with the rolls - double digit dice looking for two hits. Wiki adjusted.

@Rob - ditto what Winter said - happy to work out a scene anytime you like. Either through regular posting or we could put something together by PMs. Not likely to be pretty, but then we've got the no-killing leash to keep us out of too much trouble!
I suppose if you prefer, we could also talk about Grack's methods OOC. But that is unlikely to be as much fun by half.
Or we could just let it go for now. No worries on my end - Grack has no clue anyone is concerned about his methods in any case.
WinterRat1
Adamu - That's because I didn't have you down for any damage on my Master Condition Monitor. I probably just missed it because I created that thing as I went along and had several versions of it. Probably got lost in translation somewhere. No point showing me the rolls, pretty much everyone with Stun would have healed it by now.

Everyone - If I left you off the rest list accidentally, let me know like Adamu did and the results of your own rest rolls, if you needed to make them.
Vegas
Nevada's counting on the Long Haul she took a day ago to get her through the rest of the day, she'll be crashing somewhere around 20:00 and won't see anyone again till a day later...

Gotta love drug crashes biggrin.gif
WinterRat1
Everyone - Vegas raised a good point, who has been on drugs as of game start?

I need to know when people are crashing and for how long, since it obviously affects your availability to do stuff, which in turn affects other things as well.

Rob, I already noted Bockscar'll be unconscious until 09:00:00 on November 1 above. That includes the impact of both the Cram and Kamikaze crash.
Abbandon
Fool is totally healed and has gotten laid within the last 24 hours so I dont think his porno btl addiction should be a problem for another 24 hours. Other than that no drug problems here.
WinterRat1
Hahahahahahaha, that's right, he was taking care of his addiction while his gang was getting destroyed. Point taken, no addiction worries for Fool for the next 24 hours.

Vegas, you did fine in your portrayal of Shade, that's pretty much exactly what he would have done. Say nothing, look menacing.
Vegas
QUOTE (WinterRat1)
Vegas, you did fine in your portrayal of Shade, that's pretty much exactly what he would have done. Say nothing, look menacing.

Excellent Smithers....

Seriously, it was just fluff... I leave it in your capable hands as to just how much (how little?) cash the whores made. It'll just sit, burning a hole in Nevada's pocket till Legion requests it again.... no really, I swear it will wink.gif
WinterRat1
Hey don't knock fluff! Important earth shattering stuff doesn't happen on every single post. That's when fluff comes in, to keep things interesting, fill in the holes in the story, and flesh out the details. Fluff is what makes the game fun, so keep the fluff coming! smile.gif
Lindt
Quick point, 6:30 am on Nov 1 is roughly an hour before dawn.
WinterRat1
Umm...what the crap? I even freaking checked the time before I posted that! I just checked again though, and Lindt is correct...dunno what happened there.

Well I believe I didn't actually say the sun came up, just that the smog indicates the sunrise will be lousy and Shade wants to see it. So yeah, just go with it. smile.gif
Meriss
@Winter: I think Ink is cool for a day or two, then he is gonna start jonesing pretty hard for some Nova. And four hours of sleep is better than nothing right? biggrin.gif
WinterRat1
Latest IC post was done on Grendel’s behalf (i.e. he wrote it, I just posted it for him). Since his forum access is still erratic, it probably doesn’t account for the latest posts since my advancement post. Everyone who posted already, feel free to edit your posts if you choose to do so in response to Grendel’s post, which, judging from his post, should have come immediately after my own.

E.g. Legion told Grack to take watch, but Adamu has already posted that Grack is heading out the door to get something to eat. Adamu can choose to leave his post as is, indicating Grack is ignoring Legion, or he can edit his post to comply with Legion’s instructions, under the premise that he would have done so if Grendel had managed to get his post up before Adamu. Either way is acceptable.

Other posts, such as Fool or Nevada chiming in, can probably be left alone, with the idea that they were offering their opinions immediately after Shade’s question, and then Legion listened and issued his orders in response.

Basically just use your judgment as to what changes, if any, you need/want to make since Grendel is always going to be a step slow until he can get consistent access to the forums again, and if you have any questions or thoughts, ask/work them out with everyone else in the OOC thread.
Abbandon
omg! Fool has been sent out for a third time?? I think Ink and Child should be looking for their own shops and when they find something the call in the crew to renovate.

Does Child have any contacts with a parts distributor/retailer?? Did we steal all the parts we needed to make repairs and shit? if we had a contact we could probably try to fast talk them into giving us some equipment in exchange for some freebie mechanic work.

Fool is a reasonably good face. He would be great as the new pimp for the girls. or setting up the deal for the mechanic shop exchange. Or selling drugs/managing the drug dealers. What does Doc need to start making that shit, where can we go to get it.

Child is the only one currently with a bike and Fool is sick of riding bitch.
WinterRat1
Abbandon - I believe you may be misinterpreting Legion's orders. When he says 'recon the situation with the bikes', he's not telling you to go look for a shop site, you guys already did that. He's telling you to head to the 405 and check out the possibility of scavenging abandoned bikes like Child mentioned earlier.

From Lindt's Dec. 22 post:
QUOTE
"I have an idea on how to get a few more bikes, but its going to need a truck, or a few extra people. I figure that the 405 would have had a lot of traffic in the last few hours, and Im willing to bet there are some corpses that wont be needing their ride anymore. I could make the run and call back anything I find. Or someone else could and I could bodge what we find back to life to get it back somewhere."


He's basically asking to to go as muscle/backup and see if Child's idea has merit. If you're looking for a bike, this is the ideal job for you, because if even you can't scavenge multiple bikes (since there's only two of you and you don't have a truck), if Child's idea is sound then you can at least pick up one for Fool.

Does that clarification help make your assignment sound more palatable?
Mister Juan
Felix also has a bike... stashed somewhere on the Splintered turf
adamu
QUOTE (WinterRat1)


E.g. Legion told Grack to take watch, but Adamu has already posted that Grack is heading out the door to get something to eat. Adamu can choose to leave his post as is, indicating Grack is ignoring Legion, or he can edit his post to comply with Legion’s instructions

Not ignoring. Simply can't hear a word he or anyone else is saying, and not even caring enough to be looking in that direction.

Of course the key words are that I only posted as far as Grack heading out the door. I will hold off posting further IC for 24 in case anyone is interested in trying to communicate to Grack that he should not go get some food. If not I will proceed - I am thinking some street urchins selling broiled rat or some other delicacy....

I don't expect everyone to read everything on the wiki, so I will point out here that Hammerpack members have Grack's commcode, and any incoming calls IDed as coming from the Pack automatically cut into Grack's earbuds over the music.
Abbandon
Oh yeah...I forgot Chld mentioned that. Well that definately sounds better. Fool isnt nuts about bikes though, but the excitement of finding them is enough motivation.

I think we should have a shop first though instead of a bunch of bikes we have no place to put. Im not sure if Lindt has a mental picture of his bike shop and it definately is HIS shop as Fool has no real interest in them, but i do have a very vivid mental pic of a bike shop for him..

My mental picture is of a single door garage connected to a house. The garage is on the left side of the house and its all cream colored with maybe a beige/brown door. It has a kitchen, a bathroom. One room is an office/hangout/storefront. The rest are all converted into storage with lots of shelving and parts. One of the storage rooms has half its space dedicated to cots or bunk beds. Child's tool and equipment would be out in the garage. The garage would also have an open cieling and it would be coated with something to make it lined in plastic or something and then in the front and back there would be big ventilation fans both blowing in the same direction to suck air into the shop and out the back of the house to remove fumes and shit.

Again Im not trying to take over Lindt/Child's game and make choices for him. I've just had alot of time to think about this game and thats the image I have and wanted to share it since it was so clear. Whether it gets used or not I dont care =)
adamu
Dude, just kibbitzing from the peanut gallery, but it's great to see productive creativity at work. How about one of those world-famous Abbandon maps? Even if it doesn't get GM or Lindt-approved, it could be a place to start!
Abbandon
Mechanic Shop:
http://www.geocities.com/abbandon_unleashe...echanicshop.JPG

I really think the garage needs to be double stall but beggers cant be choosers. I assume the barrens are like all deseased and there isnt actually any grass around anywhere or whatever. I just thought dirt looked more appropiate lol.

Oh and just a disclaimer: Adamu calls my maps legendary but I just use the default paint program and I know they look like crap, and somebody else may be way better at making cool maps but I can do that level of map super easily and it is good enough to do its job.
WinterRat1
QUOTE
Of course the key words are that I only posted as far as Grack heading out the door. I will hold off posting further IC for 24 in case anyone is interested in trying to communicate to Grack that he should not go get some food. If not I will proceed - I am thinking some street urchins selling broiled rat or some other delicacy....

I don't expect everyone to read everything on the wiki, so I will point out here that Hammerpack members have Grack's commcode, and any incoming calls IDed as coming from the Pack automatically cut into Grack's earbuds over the music.


I emailed Grendel to ask him about this, so hold off on posting until I can hear back from him. If don't hear from him in a day or two, I'm going to invoke GM fiat and assume that Legion or Thumper will say something to Grack via his commlink.

Legion because he knows about Grack's general inability to hear due to his music and how to get around it, and Thumper because the way Pragma has portrayed him, I think he (Thumper) is still loyal to Legion and will try to keep any tension between Legion and Grack from turning into outright confrontation, which Grack appearing to ignore Legion could potentially do, especially since it's so close to their previous pseudo-confrontation. And of course Thumper also knows Grack is prone to simply not hearing, and would similiarly be used to that and know how to get around it.

Of course, if Pragma and Grendel both state they would allow Grack to walk off, I will remove my GM fiat and allow everyone to act as they sit fit. If anyone can provide a convincing counter-argument to my rationale above for both Thumper and Legion, I will also consider withdrawing my interpretation of their actions.
WinterRat1
I heard back from Grendel and put his post up, so at the very least Grack is aware of Legion's instructions to him. Obviously what he does in response to them is up to Adamu at this point.
Lindt
Dude, dont ever feel bad about stepping on my digital toes. Im really bad at keeping on top of things, especially with my life as busy as it is.
I was planning on taking a look at the quick lube place and with WR1's blessing was going to draw it up as something like a 2 bay gas station type place.

WinterRat1
Lindt - Go for it, but don't forget you still have to secure it. smile.gif

I'm fine with this because even if you guys end up not settling in this turf, you can use it as a nice generic template for another quick lube somewhere else.

Incidentally, if anyone wants to drap a map for a cool gang HQ, don't let me stop you. The old 410 Crash game had an awesome gang HQ (an abandoned YMCA) but I don't want to use the same idea twice. frown.gif

So if anyone has any neat new ideas for a base, feel free to toss them out or start working on a map template for it.
Abbandon
A resteraunt would be cool. Turn the whole front into the hangout, divide the space with seating, we could use the refridgerator to hold prisoners or modify the door and use it for a secure storage or something. A tempurate controlled room might be nice for a drug lab or something ??

You know what would be killer. An empty k-mart, walmart, shopko type building. We could knock out and fortify the doors. We could build in a mechanic shop, the drug lab, we could modify and build a section for living qaurters thats two stories high, they have a little resteraunt area built in. And then like a qaurter or half of the store would just be all hang and crash type space. The roof is nice and flat and have lips to them. Hell we could put in a stripper area with alot of private rooms so our girls dont have to go to the customer, they can come to us. Actually im really digging having the 1/4th or 1/2 be a club/strip place.

It would be a party non stop. I can envision our boys driving in through the front doors on bikes and into our own little parking lot inside the place/the mechanic shop.
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